Well, we don't want every pilot caught by surprise to just be dead, this will deter them more and reduce the ADS K/D since they are longer out of engagement.

Tbh. In this current build, If AVer/s forces a dropship to flee before or during the ads descent to get kills. Then they are fufilling their role as anti vehicle when the dropship has no value to it's team if it's not doing anything but running. In the event that a python/incubus is taken down (which is relatively easy if they don't flee or are to slow retreating) not only is the team hurt by missing a body. The pilots wallet is hurt for 2-4 matches if they run those matches in free suits, And that is just to break even let alone gaining a profit. Most smart pilots will fly to their mcc and recall their dropship to save isk when they feel that the AV is too strong. And that is also fulfilling the role of ANTI VEHICLE as well. A price reduction is needed on the account of assault dropships.

Also buff python shields along with the other shielded vehicles!!!

EDIT: May we look at ads controls with KB/M for legion...Soon TM

And there it is, the ideal goal is to solo the best pilots in the game, the ones that have been in their preferred roles for over a year.

And ultimately, they want the removal of vehicles so this is merely Call of Duty in space.

This whole concept is moronic. Some scrub with a standard swarm launcher will be a ridicoulus threat considering that each volley can deal over 1000HP damage. The python will just be dead meat while the incubus maybe gets away if it is lucky. And like 70k price reduction is just a drop in the bucket. a fully proto fitted incubus can easy cost over 600k ISK. So instead risking 600k im allmost granted to loose 530k ISK every time i call in my ADS. There are no counter measures for swarms and the afterburner is the only tool to make those things remotely work.

in all honestly every 1 here who agrees to the swarm changes should man up and get a forgegun. If you are half decent shot then you will destroy any ads and that solo. Most ADS take somewhere around 2-3 hits with a ishukone assault forgegun. Swarms are the all around and easy to use AV weapon. It should not be better then a damn forgegun.

CCP Rattatai!

Let me catch up after you. You - devs -want to make those expensive ADSes even more VULNERABLE?

LIsten what we do nowadays:

- Enemy take a Python (2555 HP shield, 960 armor) - means, he might have Afterburner and LShieldBooster + gunner's ATMissileTurret; then he go with his gunner to search for any target - mostly over an objective/turret/respawn point

- I & two my sqdmated - 2 scouts with Wyirkomi SL + 1 Kaalakiota Forgegunner - we take LAV we go to a good spot - two of us wait in cloak - as soon as this Pilot is in lock-range we send 1st volley combo - our f gunner waits until there is direct hit and does finishi the job hard way! :DD

- OUTCOME: ADS crew is dead - they dont know what happend and they aren't even aware about our whereabouts - well we are long gone;

What - you want to f*** the ADS pilots life even harder? They wont be able to outrun swarm's volleys? They barely can outrun them now! Pilots cant see or pinpoint the location of SL users coz they do not RENDER for them!

Go on NERF everything! You gonna loose even more customers!

I'm guessing he's talking about the fact that a commando swarmer will ....