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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
4077
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Posted - 2014.09.05 00:40:00 -
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The only difference in the dps able to be laid down in the time it takes a human to react by a scr and shotgun from cloak...if that the scr can do it just as good from 50 meters as 7.
Cloak needs to have a delay to fire after decloaking, anyone agree?
B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA
They call me ~Princess Zatata~
Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
4077
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Posted - 2014.09.05 00:41:00 -
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Jack 3enimble wrote:
Charge shot? and you can't fire from cloak.
Lol oh yes you can.
B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA
They call me ~Princess Zatata~
Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
4083
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Posted - 2014.09.05 01:11:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:The only difference in the dps able to be laid down in the time it takes a human to react by a scr and shotgun from cloak...if that the scr can do it just as good from 50 meters as 7.
Cloak needs to have a delay to fire after decloaking, anyone agree? Highly disagree. Why suggest that?
I mean..shotty go bang and most of the scouts in the barbershop actually suggested it. I just agree with them.
The delay animation on cloak does not prevent you from firing from cloak.
The fact of the matter is that once scanners were nerfed so hard, and they gave passive scanning to scouts in addition to being the only ones to participate in the dampening...and then cloaking game...it created an imbalance. you play in any other suit, contact me and we'll play a PC match just us 2.
You can hack 1 point and defend it against me.
Try staying in an area to defend it, even knowing you're actually looking for me, and i'll still kill you knowing exactly what way you're facing, while you get no intel on my location, and then add in that because I'm so quick you have very little room for error if you do catch a glimmer of the shimmer of me coming at you at 11m/s even if you're spinning in circles constantly trying to find me.
If you hold the point I'll give you 20 mil. Just you my friend, name any day or time and I'm down. 
B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA
They call me ~Princess Zatata~
Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
4100
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Posted - 2014.09.05 02:34:00 -
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nah he may well not be using a turbo...but all claoks fire from cloak still so that's an obvious one.
@michael
truth is I can run 11m a sec and get extremely close to you on many maps around a corner, then I can close the distance even before you turn (because I have a wallhack that allows me to know when you're not looking my way) and fire 2 shotgun blasts before you can react. Or lay an RE, and then you're really ****** cause you're a heavy and that **** hurts. :P
B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA
They call me ~Princess Zatata~
Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
4100
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Posted - 2014.09.05 02:35:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:
i disagree.. i would rather them have a RE-cloaking Delay of maybe 10-30 seconds so they cannot pop out kill some one pop back in and people bbe non the wiser..
this change would make cloaks less of a crutch while still retaining its functionality and the bitter-vet scouts who played hard and pro before the cloak came out can do so still with out such malice toward "the crutch"
...this doesn't address the problem...just delays how often it can happen..
is english your first language? (just asking)
B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA
They call me ~Princess Zatata~
Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
4128
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Posted - 2014.09.05 19:13:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:nah he may well not be using a turbo...but all claoks fire from cloak still so that's an obvious one.
@michael
truth is I can run 11m a sec and get extremely close to you on many maps around a corner, then I can close the distance even before you turn (because I have a wallhack that allows me to know when you're not looking my way) and fire 2 shotgun blasts before you can react. Or lay an RE, and then you're really ****** cause you're a heavy and that **** hurts. :P And that's why I don't understand what's the big deal about getting a shot off before decloaking. Unless I'm missing something here in your post, you just explained how a scout's abilities can hurt you so a cloak delay wouldn't mean squat. You already rounded the corner and used wall hacks to place yourself in a position where I can't react, delay or not.
Oh i'm not saying it's the only issue, e-war as a larger conversation needs rebalancing. I'm just saying that e-war advantages + having cloak...makes this game damn cheesy.
So much cheese. cloaks are not easily discernable in many places on maps. and the time you have to react at their speeds it just lol.
If scouts started with just 1 slot better precision than mediums and it'd take just one complex damp to get below all scout base precision (aside from the ones with bonuses which should just be amarr and not gallente IMO) and one precision mod to be equal with scouts base precision...I dunno i'm probably missing something but that was a rough idea.
I don't mind scouts having a huge advantage to dampening, but the scanning game being also monopolized is game breaking. Especially when they can stack 1/2 or even 90% of your ehp while still being ay faster than you and obviously with more stamina as well.
Scouts need to be fun to play and have the tools to do their jobs, but I feel atm they have a **** ton of advantages with very few disadvantages. Not our (scouts) fault the e-war game is so ****** up, but hey.
B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA
They call me ~Princess Zatata~
Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought
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