Sergeant Sazu
New Age Empire.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.04 21:19:00 -
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Greetings Apothecary, I have info and stuff:
-Missiles have a range of 250m, Railguns have 300m. Missiles also have a slight damage fall-off starting at about 160m. Railguns don't.
-Missiles have dispersion if fired quickly. You have to space your shots when firing from a distance, in which case Railguns would win due to the time it takes to empty the 12 missiles and remain accurate.
-Missiles are the hardest to fit. (More CPU than Railguns, and almost as much PG as Blasters) High fitting=high reward
-Missiles need level 5 in Large Turret Operations, while the other two need just 1. This is sort of an SP=reward system.
-They take a while to reload, in which case you're a sitting duck if your opponent isn't dead from the first clip.
-Splash damage and radius suck. You need direct hits to deal good damage. killing infantry is a skill shot.
-If you're mad about your shield stacked Gunnlogi going down, consider the possibility of damage mods. Chances are this guy had 2 Complex Damage Mods, granting a 40% boost and negating the damage profile.
-Another thing: the damage profile for all Missile turrets is not 80/120, for whatever reason it's 69/129. Correct me on the numbers if I'm wrong, but it's definitely something very off center that makes it a bane to Madrugars and pitiful on Gunnlogis. (unless damage mods, of course)
I'm nice so I'll give advice for fighting Missile tanks:
-If you use a Railgun, distance is your ally.
-If you encounter at close range, I recommend a Nitrous Injector to dodge a few missiles and survive. Then shoot while they're reloading. In my opinion, Nitrous is a priortity on any tank fit. There's never a time that it's not useful. Getting places faster, escaping AV, dodging Missile/Railgun shots, etc..
Unfortunately I have no more advice, as I am rarely on the receiving end.
But from your story, it sounds like this guy is simply a really good tanker that was using proto. So it's best not to fight him on his own turf. Either way, I hope my info and advice helped. (Sorry if any of it seemed obvious and therefore arrogant; I don't know how knowledgeable you are on this stuff so I went over all the details)
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Sergeant Sazu
New Age Empire.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.05 20:11:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:
thank you for the info..
now lets put those SP investments into perspective.. the missiles have not had any if meny nerfs.. now look at sentinel+HMG the HMG needs a level 5 skill too and yet that has been nerfed hell knows how meny times.. i would think that there is a lack of data on how powerful missiles are vs rails or blasters because of that level 5 skill you mentioned and players not committing to getting missiles..
i think ccp should introduce an event with some missile HAVs given to the community to get that data.. like every one gets xx amount of kaalakiota HAVs with missiles and see how they fair against other tanks.. andif anything its an opportunity for shayz to make more cool AV videos
HMG Sentinels were balanced with the rest of the game a bunch of times, and they are still good. What matters is how they are now, not how they were before.
And yes, it's hard to gather data for comparison when Missiles need to be skilled into and take a lot more SP. There needs to be MLT Large Missiles. I used Caldari LP to try it and determine it was my favorite back in 1.7. Not everyone wants to subject themselves to Caldari FW, though.
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