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Kin Cat
Another Clone in the Wall
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Posted - 2014.09.04 04:27:00 -
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and just barely got him with my basic heavy, a few times he just barely got me
i'd imagine that will be much more one-sided once Delta drops. especially against caldari scouts *shudders* i thought the cal scout's reign was over god damnit |
Jace Kaisar
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Posted - 2014.09.04 04:51:00 -
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If you are getting wrecked by Scouts with CR's in a HEAVY suit, then you seriously need to improve your gun game.
Literally, in PC you don't get close to heavies unless you ARE a heavy or you are approaching him from behind with a shotgun or NK. They will rip you to shreds with that HMG
I'm a Spooky Scary Ghost
Before you ask, yes this is me.
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Repe Susi
Rautaleijona
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Posted - 2014.09.04 05:01:00 -
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I fought proto heavy with basic scout and combat rifle. I ran as close to him as I could. Would you believe, I never got him.
Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. ~ Isaac Asimov
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.04 05:10:00 -
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I fought a heavy with my Thales and killed him 2. Shots (5m).. And then another at 520m. Went 30 -0 with a Thales that match. But pay attention to my first sentence that was one bad heavy.
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1988
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Posted - 2014.09.04 05:10:00 -
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I need to do some more testing, but I tried out my AR again since the introduction of CRs however many months ago, and it's doing really well. It tears shield and low hp suits to shreads up close. Even tried the GLU again and its range is phenomenal (at least compared to the ACR I'm used to), took a proto Cal scout down to armor in 3-4 shots at like 60m iirc. I 4-shot a min scout trying to knife me up close too.
Another suggestion would be the bolt pistol. I've never had trouble with hit detection beyond my own poor aiming. Plus, hopefully it gets a good buff in Delta. |
Foundation Seldon
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
724
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Posted - 2014.09.04 05:34:00 -
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Today I tried to fight a car's bumper with my fist and man oh man you wouldn't believe what happened next.
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Cody Sietz
Evzones Public.Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.09.04 05:57:00 -
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Jace Kaisar wrote:If you are getting wrecked by Scouts with CR's in a HEAVY suit, then you seriously need to improve your gun game.
Literally, in PC you don't get close to heavies unless you ARE a heavy or you are approaching him from behind with a shotgun or NK. They will rip you to shreds with that HMG That's because they usually have a Proto Cal/Amarr scout with max scans and range.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Joel II X
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
3269
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Posted - 2014.09.04 11:19:00 -
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As far as taking heavies down goes, i find that a dual CPX DMG Modded Duvolle AR will melt them at a comfortable range.
I wonder how it would feel like with an Commando... |
Jace Kaisar
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Posted - 2014.09.04 11:41:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Jace Kaisar wrote:If you are getting wrecked by Scouts with CR's in a HEAVY suit, then you seriously need to improve your gun game.
Literally, in PC you don't get close to heavies unless you ARE a heavy or you are approaching him from behind with a shotgun or NK. They will rip you to shreds with that HMG That's because they usually have a Proto Cal/Amarr scout with max scans and range.
<---- Min Scout with no precision or range amps
Just be a bit careful
I'm a Spooky Scary Ghost
Before you ask, yes this is me.
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Mejt0
The Only Survivor.
451
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Posted - 2014.09.04 13:01:00 -
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Today i played... Wait, i didn't played today. Well yesterday... hmm, didn't pleyed yesterday. Well a week ago i played... Ahh, why do i even try.
Burst/Normal hmg downs every scout that's not using SG/NK in 1 burst/sec. Matar/Galente scouts are 2x more useful than caldari/amarr. Cus every scout can hide from amarr and caldari have nothing to shine. Gallente does better. While matar have hack/nk/speed bonus < there's a winner.
Caldari Loyalist
Markiplier fan.
Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
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Kin Cat
Another Clone in the Wall
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Posted - 2014.09.04 19:28:00 -
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double post, idk why i guess my browsers glitching |
Kin Cat
Another Clone in the Wall
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Posted - 2014.09.04 19:29:00 -
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Jace Kaisar wrote:If you are getting wrecked by Scouts with CR's in a HEAVY suit, then you seriously need to improve your gun game.
Literally, in PC you don't get close to heavies unless you ARE a heavy or you are approaching him from behind with a shotgun or NK. They will rip you to shreds with that HMG
You're a ******* idiot. He picked me off from 70 meters a couple times. Oh, and it was ******* Roner General.
I didn't say I was getting wrecked. I said we killed each other, it was very touch and go. How does getting killed in basic by proto constitute improving my gun game?
Why don't you improve your manners by shutting your ******* ***** mouth. |
Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
3055
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Posted - 2014.09.04 19:36:00 -
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I assume you're referring to the proposed change to the Projectile damage profile? Check out the link in my signature, I did a breakdown of all the eHPs of Sentinels and how they'll be affected by the change.
Hotfix Delta Sentinel eHP Calcs
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Onesimus Tarsus
is-a-Corporation
2579
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Posted - 2014.09.04 21:10:00 -
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Foundation Seldon wrote:Today I tried to fight a car's bumper with my fist and man oh man you wouldn't believe what happened next. Well?
What happened?
K/D(r) matchmaking fixes the whole game. That's a promise.
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
782
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Posted - 2014.09.04 23:05:00 -
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Jace Kaisar wrote:If you are getting wrecked by Scouts with CR's in a HEAVY suit, then you seriously need to improve your gun game.
Literally, in PC you don't get close to heavies unless you ARE a heavy or you are approaching him from behind with a shotgun or NK. They will rip you to shreds with that HMG no scouts are just too fast and if they are strafing they can avoid the aim assist.. its basically godmode if you can do it right.. and have a bit of a tank to back up mistakes
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Jace Kaisar
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Posted - 2014.09.05 00:27:00 -
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Kin Cat wrote:Jace Kaisar wrote:If you are getting wrecked by Scouts with CR's in a HEAVY suit, then you seriously need to improve your gun game.
Literally, in PC you don't get close to heavies unless you ARE a heavy or you are approaching him from behind with a shotgun or NK. They will rip you to shreds with that HMG You're a ******* idiot. He picked me off from 70 meters a couple times. Oh, and it was ******* Roner General. I didn't say I was getting wrecked. I said we killed each other, it was very touch and go. How does getting killed in basic by proto constitute improving my gun game? Why don't you improve your manners by shutting your ******* ***** mouth.
I think I touched a nerve.
So in short, you are complaining that your basic heavy got killed at range by a prototype scout and you're complaining that it's one sided?
Do you not see the gigantic flaws in your arguments?
It's like me complaining that my M-1 Scout gets wrecked by proto cal-mando's at 90m. Better watch out guys, those things are getting more and more deadly folks.
I'm a Spooky Scary Ghost
Before you ask, yes this is me.
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Patrlck 56
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Posted - 2014.09.05 00:30:00 -
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Kin Cat wrote:Jace Kaisar wrote:If you are getting wrecked by Scouts with CR's in a HEAVY suit, then you seriously need to improve your gun game.
Literally, in PC you don't get close to heavies unless you ARE a heavy or you are approaching him from behind with a shotgun or NK. They will rip you to shreds with that HMG You're a ******* idiot. He picked me off from 70 meters a couple times. Oh, and it was ******* Roner General. I didn't say I was getting wrecked. I said we killed each other, it was very touch and go. How does getting killed in basic by proto constitute improving my gun game? Why don't you improve your manners by shutting your ******* ***** mouth. Calm down |
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
2252
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Posted - 2014.09.05 00:30:00 -
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Jace Kaisar wrote:If you are getting wrecked by Scouts with CR's in a HEAVY suit, then you seriously need to improve your gun game.
Literally, in PC you don't get close to heavies unless you ARE a heavy or you are approaching him from behind with a shotgun or NK. They will rip you to shreds with that HMG Ripping to shreds is an understatement.
You literally don't have time to bend over and spread your ass cheeks for the pounding you receive
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
2252
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Posted - 2014.09.05 00:31:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Jace Kaisar wrote:If you are getting wrecked by Scouts with CR's in a HEAVY suit, then you seriously need to improve your gun game.
Literally, in PC you don't get close to heavies unless you ARE a heavy or you are approaching him from behind with a shotgun or NK. They will rip you to shreds with that HMG no scouts are just too fast and if they are strafing they can avoid the aim assist.. its basically godmode if you can do it right.. and have a bit of a tank to back up mistakes EGAD!!!
Aiming required in an FPS??!!! What is this world coming to!!!!!!!!???
CCP FIX THIS ****!!!
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
2252
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Posted - 2014.09.05 00:35:00 -
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Kin Cat wrote:Jace Kaisar wrote:If you are getting wrecked by Scouts with CR's in a HEAVY suit, then you seriously need to improve your gun game.
Literally, in PC you don't get close to heavies unless you ARE a heavy or you are approaching him from behind with a shotgun or NK. They will rip you to shreds with that HMG You're a ******* idiot. He picked me off from 70 meters a couple times. Oh, and it was ******* Roner General. I didn't say I was getting wrecked. I said we killed each other, it was very touch and go. How does getting killed in basic by proto constitute improving my gun game? Why don't you improve your manners by shutting your ******* ***** mouth. Chill bro...Roner's not even that good, Im a better shotgunner than him lmao, least I was when I last played 4 weeks ago
But seriously if you get beat by a scout with a CR as a heavy in CQC, you do need a gun game fix
Unless you're not using an HMG, in which case your fittings need a buff lol
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
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Jack 3enimble
Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo
326
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Posted - 2014.09.05 00:42:00 -
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Kin Cat wrote:Jace Kaisar wrote:If you are getting wrecked by Scouts with CR's in a HEAVY suit, then you seriously need to improve your gun game.
Literally, in PC you don't get close to heavies unless you ARE a heavy or you are approaching him from behind with a shotgun or NK. They will rip you to shreds with that HMG You're a ******* idiot. He picked me off from 70 meters a couple times. Oh, and it was ******* Roner General. I didn't say I was getting wrecked. I said we killed each other, it was very touch and go. How does getting killed in basic by proto constitute improving my gun game? Why don't you improve your manners by shutting your ******* ***** mouth.
Classy. Were you talking about manners? |
Kin Cat
Another Clone in the Wall
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Posted - 2014.09.05 16:42:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Chill bro...Roner's not even that good, Im a better shotgunner than him lmao, least I was when I last played 4 weeks ago But seriously if you get beat by a scout with a CR as a heavy in CQC, you do need a gun game fix Unless you're not using an HMG, in which case your fittings need a buff lol
i wasnt getting beat for the most part. you guys really need some reading comprehension
the only times i died were when him and his friends shot me at the same time, and this one time i had my scrambler pistol out and by the time I switched, I could only get him down to near zero armor before he got me
Jace Kaisar, I bet you touch a lot of things ****** |
NAV HIV
The Generals
2051
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Posted - 2014.09.05 16:44:00 -
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Kin Cat wrote:and just barely got him with my basic heavy, a few times he just barely got me
i'd imagine that will be much more one-sided once Delta drops. especially against caldari scouts *shudders* i thought the cal scout's reign was over god damnit
Another Cal scout is OP thread ?! LOL |
Jack 3enimble
Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo
326
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Posted - 2014.09.05 16:53:00 -
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Kin Cat wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Chill bro...Roner's not even that good, Im a better shotgunner than him lmao, least I was when I last played 4 weeks ago But seriously if you get beat by a scout with a CR as a heavy in CQC, you do need a gun game fix Unless you're not using an HMG, in which case your fittings need a buff lol i wasnt getting beat for the most part. you guys really need some reading comprehension the only times i died were when him and his friends shot me at the same time, and this one time i had my scrambler pistol out and by the time I switched, I could only get him down to near zero armor before he got me Jace Kaisar, I bet you touch a lot of things ******
If you were outnumbered when he killed you, why are you complaining? |
Kin Cat
Another Clone in the Wall
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Posted - 2014.09.05 17:08:00 -
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Jack 3enimble wrote:If you were outnumbered when he killed you, why are you complaining?
again, you people seriously need to learn like, 5th grade english skills
the topic of this thread wasn't complaining about the scout. it was saying that our engagement was balanced, and when the projectile changes go through, it won't be balanced anymore
i will pretty much have to delete my basic sentinel fitting. in fact anyone who buys the new sentinel BPO is getting seriously ripped off because combat rifles are going to tear it a new ******* |
Titus Stryker
Ancient Exiles.
428
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Posted - 2014.09.05 17:15:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:I fought a heavy with my Thales and killed him 2. Shots (5m).. And then another at 520m. Went 30 -0 with a Thales that match. But pay attention to my first sentence that was one bad heavy. pretty sure I was in this match...no?
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1467
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Posted - 2014.09.05 17:15:00 -
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Kin Cat wrote:Jack 3enimble wrote:If you were outnumbered when he killed you, why are you complaining? again, you people seriously need to learn like, 5th grade english skills the topic of this thread wasn't complaining about the scout. it was saying that our engagement was balanced, and when the projectile changes go through, it won't be balanced anymore i will pretty much have to delete my basic sentinel fitting. in fact anyone who buys the new sentinel BPO is getting seriously ripped off because combat rifles are going to tear it a new ******* ]
Um, no they won't. Unless the heavy engages them outside the HMG optimal range -- which is no different from today. Otherwise they'll die in a half second of HMG fire.
Basic sentinels (manned by people with even an adequate gun game) die to NK, Shotguns, and other HMGs. They don't die much to other weapons, and certainly not CQC 1v1...and before you ask, I basic BPO version (Dren Sentinel) every day.
Sorry, brother, but I have to disagree with you on this point, but I do agree with you in one way, the CR is too dominant when compared to other ranged weapons, but not in regards to balance against HMG wielding sentinels with any semblance of gun game. |
Kin Cat
Another Clone in the Wall
27
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Posted - 2014.09.05 17:19:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:Basic sentinels don't die much to other weapons, and certainly not 1v1.
That's a funny joke. Wait, you're serious?
You forgot remotes, mass drivers, and any rifle if the heavy even so much as pokes his head out from cover.
Just you watch. Shield extenders are going to be the only thing a basic heavy will have between him and a Six Kin CR.
Stop pretending your combat rifle isn't OP anymore because it hasn't changed. |
Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1467
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Posted - 2014.09.05 17:22:00 -
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I am serious. Sure the occasional scout gets close enough to drop a remote (just like the occasional grenade will do me in) and he dies a half second later if he's seen. But that's another topic, and has nothing to do with the CR.
If you'd like to come play with me this afternoon, we can note the things that my BPO sentinel dies to, and I assure you that CR will be nowhere near the top of the list when it comes to deaths from small arms. It will be just as I said....HMGs, Shotguns, and the occasional Nova Knife. Again, I play the suit every day and I'm quite familiar with what kills me and what does not.
I'll be on about 6PM ET. Send me a mail and let's play/discuss....Leadfoot |
Kin Cat
Another Clone in the Wall
27
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Posted - 2014.09.05 17:23:00 -
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oh jesus lord, everyone in Molon Labe is so hot I think I need to take my panties off |
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