DUST Search - Sniper rifle aim changed

gauntlet44 LbowDeep wrote:

Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:

[quote=Leadfoot10][quote=PhantomStranger74]

Now, let me tear a hole through your example. Say you line up the reticule with a KB/M, the readout says "headshot" you fire, and get a body shot. What happened there? Quite bluntly the region that detects shots is larger than the actual strikezone the bullet enters. The old reticule had a dot specifially over that spot so that you could evaluate it visually instead of just relying on the jittery calculations of the computer, which fail more often than they work in such a situation.

Not only that, but in order to do the lineup, you have to look down at the readout, then back up at the reticule repetatively waiting for the headshot multiplier to appear.
Before this you could watch the numbers change from the peripheral while keeping a focus on the target under the reticule.

You may now return to sticking your head in the ground, since I can tell you obviously did not even test your own statement out ingame.

you move the reticle side to side and see where it changes on the tacnet reading at the edge of the circle. use that change for your center,
its a head shot for me at least 80% of the time
not the 100% it use to be, but it is a skilled weapon after all

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PhantomStranger74 B.O.S.S.GD 0	Posted - 2014.09.04 02:36:00 - [1] - Quote i cant hit any headshot over 500m now . if i do its pure luck . please change it back ot offer 2 different styles. BretherenOfferingSelflesssSacrifice
Krixus Flux Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 471	Posted - 2014.09.04 02:37:00 - [2] - Quote KBM You're welcome Saying what's on people's minds
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 975	Posted - 2014.09.04 05:00:00 - [3] - Quote Krixus Flux wrote: KBM You're welcome ... He's talking about the reticule. If we were talking about cars, and you ran in screaming that you had a potato... that would be pretty similar to the jump in logic you made right here. http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
Rizlax Yazzax Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 403	Posted - 2014.09.04 06:51:00 - [4] - Quote PhantomStranger74 wrote: i cant hit any headshot over 500m now . if i do its pure luck . please change it back ot offer 2 different styles. Maybe get out of the redline and into the map?
Private Part's sticky green's 9	Posted - 2014.09.04 07:10:00 - [5] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: Krixus Flux wrote: KBM You're welcome ... He's talking about the reticule. If we were talking about cars, and you ran in screaming that you had a potato... that would be pretty similar to the jump in logic you made right here. What's he going to do with that potato? Bake it mash it turn it into fries, wow this thread just got interesting.
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 424	Posted - 2014.09.04 07:32:00 - [6] - Quote Twice the range of a tank and still snipers cry. Lonewolf till I die
Pvt Numnutz Prophets of the Velocirapture 1851	Posted - 2014.09.04 09:22:00 - [7] - Quote It appears the answer to your problem is.........get closer. ding Master Skyshark rider Kaalaka dakka tamer
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 391	Posted - 2014.09.04 10:10:00 - [8] - Quote PhantomStranger74 wrote: i cant hit any headshot over 500m now . if i do its pure luck . please change it back ot offer 2 different styles. Better get practicing getting closer, after the hotfix you wont be doing anything over 500m, lol.
TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 5445	Posted - 2014.09.04 13:49:00 - [9] - Quote When the enemy is farting in your face, then you can shoot. My hometown beat Manchester united. Git gud man utd. 4-0
Symbioticforks Pure Evil. 793	Posted - 2014.09.04 13:50:00 - [10] - Quote PhantomStranger74 wrote: i cant hit any headshot over 500m now . if i do its pure luck . please change it back ot offer 2 different styles. we know this........................................................read stuff on the forums....................................................yup Sniping Dust 514 (video series)

Snake Sellors Hellstorm Inc General Tso's Alliance 404	Posted - 2014.09.04 14:01:00 - [11] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Twice the range of a tank and still snipers cry. it's not all about distance though, and on some maps the best places for sniping are far away. and for those places the new reticule is plain bad. even worse on the charge rifle where, you have to crouch-aim-charge-shoot with every bullet.. saying get closer is about as helpful as saying to a nova knifer to strike from over 30m for maximum effect. that said depending on what path they take either some or all of this could be fixed in delta. on another note. to those who keep implying that snipers shouldn't be far away from their targets, just be careful what you wish for....
PROPHET HELLSCREAM UNSVER UNITED 3	Posted - 2014.09.04 14:34:00 - [12] - Quote Snake Sellors wrote: on another note. to those who keep implying that snipers shouldn't be far away from their targets, just be careful what you wish for.... but they aren-¦t that far, everytime we look throw the scope they are right there, next to us!!! about the reticule i don-¦t care about it! i keep killing with great headshots. Far, close, whatever... Now i-¦m used to it Hobby: Headshot on cloaked units
Snake Sellors Hellstorm Inc General Tso's Alliance 405	Posted - 2014.09.04 14:49:00 - [13] - Quote PROPHET HELLSCREAM wrote: Snake Sellors wrote: on another note. to those who keep implying that snipers shouldn't be far away from their targets, just be careful what you wish for.... but they aren-¦t that far, everytime we look throw the scope they are right there, next to us!!! about the reticule i don-¦t care about it! i keep killing with great headshots. Far, close, whatever... Now i-¦m used to it true enough... but still let them think they want close range snipers with high rof, 0 scope sway and decent damage. they can pay for their ignorance with tears later... N.B. I have seen symb do amazing things with and without his sniper rifle, if you think the likes of him need to fight from far away you are not going to enjoy the results.. on the other hand i look forward to his video in delta when he goes ham with a tactical or some such.
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 2289	Posted - 2014.09.04 14:57:00 - [14] - Quote I always pay attention to the bottom efficiency jumping from a two digit 90% to a three-digit 175% or whatever the hell it is to know if I have a HS or not... A habit long-formed by using FGs for countersniping or seeking out vehicle sweet-spots (Talk about a bad reticule!) So, I do suggest that you do the same to get headshots at long range, makes it a bit easier. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 979	Posted - 2014.09.04 16:54:00 - [15] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Twice the range of a tank and still snipers cry. Fine then, change it to 800 damage per shot, range to 100m maximum, so that it's both inside your little psychological bubble range, and inside of the local DPS model. And finally, remove all sway. There we have it, an instant kill weapon that anti-snipers cried for the whole time. Enjoy the new "sniper" meta... http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 979	Posted - 2014.09.04 16:57:00 - [16] - Quote x double posted? whut? http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 4142	Posted - 2014.09.04 17:24:00 - [17] - Quote Common feedback. Check out the cross hairs they are considering now. I am sure you will like it better. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=172372&find=unread Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Super Sniper95 Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 199	Posted - 2014.09.04 17:41:00 - [18] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Twice the range of a tank and still snipers cry. Fine then, change it to 800 damage per shot, range to 100m maximum, so that it's both inside your little psychological bubble range, and inside of the local DPS model. And finally, remove all sway. There we have it, an instant kill weapon that anti-snipers cried for the whole time. Enjoy the new "sniper" meta... Then change the name to "Focused Rail Rifle" CCP please don't reduce Sniper Rifle range. If you do it I will be sad...
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1609	Posted - 2014.09.04 19:15:00 - [19] - Quote 400 damage 3x headshot multiplayer 250-300? Meter range Balenced snipers
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1456	Posted - 2014.09.04 19:19:00 - [20] - Quote PhantomStranger74 wrote: i cant hit any headshot over 500m now . Good. Get in the fight, for heaven's sake, and stop camping the redline and help your team.

Krixus Flux Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 474	Posted - 2014.09.05 03:09:00 - [21] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: Krixus Flux wrote: KBM You're welcome ... He's talking about the reticule. If we were talking about cars, and you ran in screaming that you had a potato... that would be pretty similar to the jump in logic you made right here. Dude, will you internet guys shut up with the car analogy and think of something else? Everytime you dudes want to spin an analogy, you always go with the same ol boring car analogy. Let me spell it out for you dude since you can't think what I'm possibly saying. The reticule argument is moot bro when you're using a KBM. It doesn't matter when you're using a whole forearm to control a mouse with the new reticule compared to using a thumb to control it. I have no drawbacks since the reticule changed bro, because I always use a KBM when sniping. So yea, my post still stands oh enlightened one. KBM You're welcome Saying what's on people's minds
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 981	Posted - 2014.09.05 16:17:00 - [22] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: PhantomStranger74 wrote: i cant hit any headshot over 500m now . Good. Get in the fight, for heaven's sake, and stop camping the redline and help your team. Once you stop piddling around suit swapping at a supply depot, too afraid to do anything further than 30 meters away for fear of loosing said suit, then maybe you'd have a point. But you don't. Kind of like how you were so stupid to assume that long range attacks cannot support a team. I bet next you're going to say that staying next to the supply depot instead of getting kills is the best way to support your team. Then you'll claim that the objectives are nonsense because they don't have guns, and that they shouldn't be defended specifically because they can't be used to kill other players. Right? I know how your kind think, "Any style of gameplay that is outside of my safety bubble is instantly not assisting play in any way. It has to be as close to my style of play as possible or else I feel so invalidated that my style might possibly not be the ONLY style that I have to insult all the others. It makes it easier for me to insult someone when I can point them out of a crowd, and because I'm hiding inside of a crowd I can hide from ridicule." Doesn't work that way in real life child. http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
gauntlet44 LbowDeep Heaven84 Devils General Tso's Alliance 118	Posted - 2014.09.05 19:14:00 - [23] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: [quote=Leadfoot10][quote=PhantomStranger74] Now, let me tear a hole through your example. Say you line up the reticule with a KB/M, the readout says "headshot" you fire, and get a body shot. What happened there? Quite bluntly the region that detects shots is larger than the actual strikezone the bullet enters. The old reticule had a dot specifially over that spot so that you could evaluate it visually instead of just relying on the jittery calculations of the computer, which fail more often than they work in such a situation. Not only that, but in order to do the lineup, you have to look down at the readout, then back up at the reticule repetatively waiting for the headshot multiplier to appear. Before this you could watch the numbers change from the peripheral while keeping a focus on the target under the reticule. You may now return to sticking your head in the ground, since I can tell you obviously did not even test your own statement out ingame. you move the reticle side to side and see where it changes on the tacnet reading at the edge of the circle. use that change for your center, its a head shot for me at least 80% of the time not the 100% it use to be, but it is a skilled weapon after all Absorb what is useful, discard what is not, make it uniquely your own........ Bruce Lee
David Mustane D3M3NT3D M1NDZ 70	Posted - 2014.09.05 19:16:00 - [24] - Quote PhantomStranger74 wrote: i cant hit any headshot over 500m now . if i do its pure luck . please change it back ot offer 2 different styles. I have a small issue with that as well, if you got 1 use a thale's and 3 com dam mods. will take out a hvy in 3, and antything else in 1-2. I can still then get a longest kill of around 550m
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 983	Posted - 2014.09.06 01:15:00 - [25] - Quote gauntlet44 LbowDeep wrote: Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: [quote=Leadfoot10][quote=PhantomStranger74] Now, let me tear a hole through your example. Say you line up the reticule with a KB/M, the readout says "headshot" you fire, and get a body shot. What happened there? Quite bluntly the region that detects shots is larger than the actual strikezone the bullet enters. The old reticule had a dot specifially over that spot so that you could evaluate it visually instead of just relying on the jittery calculations of the computer, which fail more often than they work in such a situation. Not only that, but in order to do the lineup, you have to look down at the readout, then back up at the reticule repetatively waiting for the headshot multiplier to appear. Before this you could watch the numbers change from the peripheral while keeping a focus on the target under the reticule. You may now return to sticking your head in the ground, since I can tell you obviously did not even test your own statement out ingame. you move the reticle side to side and see where it changes on the tacnet reading at the edge of the circle. use that change for your center, its a head shot for me at least 80% of the time not the 100% it use to be, but it is a skilled weapon after all A "Skill weapon" provides consistent results, not "well it works most of the time" is basically a weapon that takes effort to aim, but a dice roll to execute. You cannot call it a skill weapon if Luck has a say in it's intended use. If I pointed an AR at someone from 15 m away, pointed it directly at the body and unleashed a whole clip at them while keeping the reticule perfectly centered, only to have this technique work about 80% of the time, that 20% when the target took no damage for the whole clip would really stick out. Yes, this example is relevant, because most snipers either get their damage to kill from the first shot, or don't get said kill at all. http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
PhantomStranger74 B.O.S.S.GD 0	Posted - 2014.10.08 20:50:00 - [26] - Quote iam well skilled in all weapons .i snipe only when im alone online or when its needed during a match. what good is it when a rai lor combat rifle an reach you BretherenOfferingSelflesssSacrifice


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