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bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
1122
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Posted - 2014.09.02 01:41:00 -
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Oh my god!! Nothing can kill them except proto remotes and fluxes!
Stop armor based heavies from getting nerfed
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Toby Flenderson
research lab
581
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Posted - 2014.09.02 01:43:00 -
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I'm surprised Logibro hasn't created a dedicated thread to your QQ and locked all your other threads. |
bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
1122
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Posted - 2014.09.02 01:45:00 -
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Toby Flenderson wrote:I'm surprised Logibro hasn't created a dedicated thread to your QQ and locked all your other threads.
Maybe it's because I was the only one being civil?
Eh... you're right that I'm spamming general discussion though. So what. Everyone else does.
Stop armor based heavies from getting nerfed
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Thurak1
Psygod9
963
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Posted - 2014.09.02 01:46:00 -
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What shield heavies are getting some love? That will be nice right now i have to do a lot of ducking in and out of cover to survive. Being used to having to duck and cover i will probably survive a long time. |
ARF 1049
The Phoenix Federation
131
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Posted - 2014.09.02 01:47:00 -
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As a plasma runner there resistance doesn't truly hinder me in anyway so... I think we are on the right track we need new heavy weapons to start of a shield piercing anti infantry (scrambler lance) and a shield piercing anti vehicle (plasma mortar)
"In rust you trust, so in rust you shall die."
*blows minmatar's face off with TT-3...
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Vitharr Foebane
Terminal Courtesy Proficiency V.
1875
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Posted - 2014.09.02 01:54:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:Toby Flenderson wrote:I'm surprised Logibro hasn't created a dedicated thread to your QQ and locked all your other threads. Maybe it's because I was the only one being civil? Eh... you're right that I'm spamming general discussion though. So what. Everyone else does. im gonna be civil as well when i say that a pure and devote Amarr omnisoldier (see sig) I'm ok with the proposed projectite profile. I(as a sentinel) will resist ALL the native bonus(if it goes -15/+15) and since i dont taint my suit with impure tech unless required i always have some form of anti shield on me
Amarr: Assault V, Scout V, Sentinel V, Commando V, Logistics IV
I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
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Toby Flenderson
research lab
583
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Posted - 2014.09.02 01:56:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:Toby Flenderson wrote:I'm surprised Logibro hasn't created a dedicated thread to your QQ and locked all your other threads. Maybe it's because I was the only one being civil? Eh... you're right that I'm spamming general discussion though. So what. Everyone else does.
I've read some of your threads and responses within them and while I can't say you're not being civil, I will say you're misleading the readers.
I didn't see anything about armor nerds in the discussion of hotfix delta before I read your threads. I realized later that there are no armor nerfs or shield buffs. You're treating altering one damage profile as a nerf/buff to all armor/shields in general. That's not what's happening. Every other weapon in the game will work the same against every other suit in the game with the exception of the CR/HMG/SMG family.
What's worse is that the profile was the only unbalanced profile in the game up until now and it's just being "fixed". It's not like it went from -10%/10% to -15%/10%. It has been unfair for shield characters this whole time and is now finally being fixed.
Crying about it in a dozen different ways won't stop CCP from fixing a clearly unbalanced damage profile, especially when they're trying to make shield tanking more viable. I can't stop you from making threads, but I will mock them. Being civil doesn't make a bad argument into a good one just as being uncivil doesn't make a good argument into a bad one. You're distracting people from having a real discussion about the rest of the hot fix. |
bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
1123
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Posted - 2014.09.02 02:04:00 -
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there is no reason why we shouldn't try 10/10 before jumping to 15/15
when i realized rattati did not give that as an option i had to be vocal and make a stand
i dont really care what you think
Stop armor based heavies from getting nerfed
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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
4030
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Posted - 2014.09.02 02:12:00 -
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It basically gets a buff cause the CPU usage is more then likely to go down on Shield rechargers, energizers and regulators. And then you put the changed damage profile from HMG's on top and call it a caldari heavy buff.
They say when you die you see a white light which then forms the line of:
"GAME OVER! PLEASE INSERT COIN"
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Toby Flenderson
research lab
585
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Posted - 2014.09.02 02:14:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:there is no reason why we shouldn't try 10/10 before jumping to 15/15
when i realized rattati did not give that as an option i had to be vocal and make a stand
i dont really care what you think Clearly, which is why I'm taking issue with your threads. They're simply flyers your throwing around that say "CCP needs to do what I think it appropriate" instead of opening the floor for discussion.
15/15 seems more reasonable to me and I'm a Gallente user mostly. Shields doesn't seem like they would be easily disturbed by pellets. I know this game isn't exactly realistic but the way I see it is that armor tanking needs better counters and shield tanking needs more incentive.
It's not like people who specced into the combat rifle did so that they could take out shield tankers. Make them carry a SCR pistol or flux grenades if they want to down a shield tanker in a heartbeat. |
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Vitharr Foebane
Terminal Courtesy Proficiency V.
1875
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Posted - 2014.09.02 02:14:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:there is no reason why we shouldn't try 10/10 before jumping to 15/15
when i realized rattati did not give that as an option i had to be vocal and make a stand
i dont really care what you think proto Amarr will be resistant to 15/15 and will require hundreds of thousand SP to make it even function like it would with no proficiency on any other suit
Amarr: Assault V, Scout V, Sentinel V, Commando V, Logistics IV
I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1962
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Posted - 2014.09.02 02:17:00 -
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From my other thread:
Enhanced armor (not to mention complex) still grants more EHP against a prof. 5 HMG than a COMPLEX SHIELD EXTENDER.
Proof:
Enh Armor plate: 121hp Damage profile: 1.15(damage profile)*1.15(prof. 5 HMG vs armor)= 1.32 121/1.32= 91.5 ehp
Cplx Shield extender: 72.6hp Damage profile: .85 72.6/.85= 85.6
I see no evidence that shield heavies will far outclass armor heavies, they just seem to be more balanced now. If they do, it won't be by much. |
Vitharr Foebane
Terminal Courtesy Proficiency V.
1875
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Posted - 2014.09.02 02:24:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:From my other thread:
Enhanced armor (not to mention complex) still grants more EHP against a prof. 5 HMG than a COMPLEX SHIELD EXTENDER.
Proof:
Enh Armor plate: 121hp Damage profile: 1.15(damage profile)*1.15(prof. 5 HMG vs armor)= 1.32 121/1.32= 91.5 ehp
Cplx Shield extender: 72.6hp Damage profile: .85 72.6/.85= 85.6
I see no evidence that shield heavies will far outclass armor heavies, they just seem to be more balanced now. If they do, it won't be by much. you forget that both armor sentinels resist projectites
Amarr: Assault V, Scout V, Sentinel V, Commando V, Logistics IV
I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
2231
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Posted - 2014.09.02 02:56:00 -
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Shield heavy, meet shotgun.
Shotgun, Shield heavy.
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
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Thurak1
Psygod9
963
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Posted - 2014.09.02 03:04:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Shield heavy, meet shotgun.
Shotgun, Shield heavy. I hate shotguns with a passion. Especially that cre shotgun that thing shoots so fast its insane. |
Joel II X
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
3236
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Posted - 2014.09.02 03:09:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:there is no reason why we shouldn't try 10/10 before jumping to 15/15
when i realized rattati did not give that as an option i had to be vocal and make a stand
i dont really care what you think We already have 10/10.
We don't care what you think. |
Thumb Green
Raymond James Corp
1373
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Posted - 2014.09.02 03:21:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:bamboo x wrote:there is no reason why we shouldn't try 10/10 before jumping to 15/15
when i realized rattati did not give that as an option i had to be vocal and make a stand
i dont really care what you think We already have 10/10. We don't care what you think. Actually it's -5 / +10 or at least last I seen that's what it was. I look forward to the challenge -15/+15 will bring.
At the RJC we don't kick ass, we kick dick and we kick it hard.
Fix supply depots
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Jace Kaisar
75
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Posted - 2014.09.02 03:58:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Shield heavy, meet shotgun.
Shotgun, Shield heavy.
This.
We still 2-3 shot shield heavies.
Amarr will still take 3-4 from point blank.
I'm a Spooky Scary Ghost
Before you ask, yes this is me.
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Leither Yiltron
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
948
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Posted - 2014.09.02 04:03:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:Toby Flenderson wrote:I'm surprised Logibro hasn't created a dedicated thread to your QQ and locked all your other threads. Everyone else does.
You're trying to become part of a problem you perceive instead of its solution. Very good. Let the butthurt flow through you.
Have a pony
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ARF 1049
The Phoenix Federation
134
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Posted - 2014.09.02 05:48:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:there is no reason why we shouldn't try 10/10 before jumping to 15/15
when i realized rattati did not give that as an option i had to be vocal and make a stand
i dont really care what you think
Because 10/10 is for hybrid weapons... That's why
"In rust you trust, so in rust you shall die."
*blows minmatar's face off with TT-3...
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