No
I like my rep tool how it is. I don't want any overheat BS

I hate to break it to you, but the logi train has been around longer than, as you put it... "OP scouts" Way longer. I'd wager a lot of scouts even carry RE's specifically to get rid of these trains quickly before they get mowed down by the double repped HMG sentinel.

I digress though, an overheat option, or capacitors on the repair tools could be interesting. It would make logi work less of a point and hold and force players to think tactically when to actually apply those reps. Scanners though... Why would you want to nerf something further that's already only truly useful at proto? Those poor things need a buff... my advocating for such has nothing to do with the fact I miss knifing ballerinas...

and i thought my thread was a text wall rant

I've got a compromise.

I'll accept an overheat on the rep tool...

If every suit but logistics loses their equipment slots.
Except scouts,they keep 1 and it HAS to be locked to cloaks only.

That would be a reasonable trade.

Gimp logistics equipment,strip others.

Win-win.

Afterall if i can't be repped, someone has to be willing to die for me.

This isn't a movement to nerf the logi and yes a few things should of been brought up to make us better while also imposing this. This is mostly talking about stopping the "heavy" leash. This also brings in a level of tactical decision making and not a way to lessen the logi role so lets talk about some things that could make you better.

1. increase speed. The logi can either be on par with their assault brothers or switch movement speeds with them. I don't think we need to have the same amount of HP but we do need to have tools for survival.

2. insure equipment CPU/PG cost of advance and proto variants create a fitting choice for non logi suits. The average non logi should be using basic/adv equipment.

3. With number 2 we should have to make a choice on our weapons and CPU/PG fitting changes to our suit should make it a choice on if we carry a better weapon or equipment.

4. increase the max number of nano hives and drop links carried. At the same time the nano hives should have less nanites and drop links less spawn count. Over all I see this being a buff as the total amount of nanites carried and spawn count carried will increase while slightly lower the amount on the field at one time. It would also allow you to drop a rapid succession of triage hives or drop links to help your team push the front.

5. Allow the logi to match the assaults shield regen rate. Logi already have a shorter delay then assault. For most suit this would be an increase of 5 hp/s not huge but noticeable.

6. if all else fails to bring the suit up to bar a small HP buff may be needed with the current metagame.

Logistics is its tools.

And just like logihaters before you,you post your true intentions in your forum topic.
You specifically mention logistics knowing this would hit them the hardest,now you feign ignorance saying it targets all suits.

You are a bad liar.

Oh,i don't want to flog you because of change.

I want to flog you because:
-Logistics sacrifices ALOT to run equipment and you want them to sacrifice more.
-Logistics costs more investment SP and ISK wise than any other suit yet support gets "lolnerf em" more often than the killers do.
-You desire to prevent logistics from receiving support through reps,making it the only suit to be so EVEN MORE horribly broken.
-To be blunt,your idea is horribly stupid.


If all equipment costs were 1k, at Pro level this would still be a bad idea.

"No support for the support" is dumb regardless of what words you use to make it sound good i.e. tactical.

More like a financial decision



I didn't know you had a DPS penalties on your suit so you must be talking about the HMG.

Tactical decision currently no. Lets see as a logi I could either get a couple of kills(2 x 50 wp) and maybe a few assist(3 x 25 wp) or I could get 5 guardians( 5 x 35) and some triage points (easily 200 by the time they kill 5 people)



Yes it is. However this choice has nothing to do with the fact that your using the rep tool or a logi. Every time someone on your team decides to "go for it" you have to make this decision doesn't matter if you have a rep tool or weapon in your hand.

Logi could be the most versatile suit out there with the ability to make a real difference for their team. However most of them only see the stream of triage points coming out of their rep tool.

The overheat mechanic would create a better combat. The overheat doesn't need to sieze the rep tool and make you a sitting duck. Hell it doesn't even need to cool down for that long. It simply needs to make it so you must decide when to start repping not just latch onto a full hp heavy and wait for the triage to start. It needs to create an opening for the opponent to push once you have to start the cool down. Yeah you could swap to your nano hive and drop of those during this period to help out.

Most of your concerns about the logi maybe well placed. 1.8 raised most suit to above the power of the logi which was king of the hill. I have even pointed out buff for the suit that I think would be useful. If logis were so worried about your equipment in general and not just the wp fountain rep tool. Logis would be screaming about the fact that you can only carry 2-3 nano hives at one time. How about the fact that you can't use drop links to advance the squad because you only carry 2 at a time. Maybe logis would care that scanners are currently junk comparatively to rep tools and need to be useful without being op again.

Again I am all for the logi suit receiving the tools it needs to survive on the battlefield, What I want is the logi to be a force multiplier and not a single person multiplier that the game pushes it to be. The logi main focus should be the over all health and supply of the team not the individual that gonna make them more points.

On a final note Meee One I do not know what kind of logi you are or how you operate on the field so none of this is directed at you,

Currently the game rewards heavy chasers and creates a very non dynamic class. Making the class care more about its specialty and learning the in and outs of logi will only deepen the class. This in the end will be far better then the current logi being nothing more then heavy chasers(now) and assaults with extra equipment(pre 1.8). I am more then willing to discuss anything that will help the class out and make it something everyone hopes they have on their team.