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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.09.01 21:04:00 -
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TBh I kinda agree I don't run cal sent but I do run minnie sentinel ..and amar..The resistance profiles does make a difference
But beyond that what blows my mind about this is..Caldari will have better resistance. .isn't that like against lore?
Fast ..substantial self recover and the best resistance profile...There will be caldari sentinels ever where running alone just slaughtering.
Thanks for the heads up bamboo..looks like it's time to. Polish off my minmatar sent and put away my amarian.
PS ccp if u just gave me my ******* scrambler lance this wouldn't matter
WHERE IS MY SCRAMBLER LANCE
no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.09.01 21:33:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:TTK
Cal Sent (-15% Shields +15% Armour) - 1.8 Seconds
Min Sent (-15% Shields +15% Armour) -1.7 Seconds
Gal Sent (-15% Shields + 5% Armour) - 2.0 Seconds
Amr Sent (-15% Shields + 0% Armour) - 2.2 Seconds
Still seems pretty balanced to me. Now let's put what an Amarr and Caldari are SUPPOSED to run. http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/337/7304652 shields 487 armor. Those 652 shields will soak up the majority of a Six Kin Burst leaving plenty of room for it to stay alive. What if he has a logi on him and is behind cover? He will be back up to full health from zero shields in 8 seconds and will start repairing at 86 shields per second. http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/337/6443450 shields 1344 armor. His shields take FOREVER to recharge. He can't afford to run reps in a serious fight so he literally has ZERO armor reps. Even with a Core Focused rep tool on him it will take 10 seconds to fully heal. Combine this with the nerf against HMG damage and it's easy to see the problem. Six kin will kill him even faster than Caldari because Amarr has to charge into the fight, and Caldari can easily hang back behind cover. What if there are two Caldari sentinels instead of a Caldari and his logi? Normally an Amarr can take out two other Amarr heavies if he has a Logi and they don't. In this case he and his Logi will be slaughtered. What if his Logi dies first? What if Minmatar and Gallente decide to start running shield extenders to compensate for the OP caldari? Amarr Sentinel is screwed. Not only has the Sentinel Fitting Nerf made Amarr the WORST FORGE GUNNER but now he will be the WORST HMG USER.
Your well constructed arguments are a blessing for my alcohol riddled mind..i can now in vision my poor amar sentinels future hell
no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
126
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Posted - 2014.09.01 21:38:00 -
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Jack 3enimble wrote:bamboo x wrote:Vulpes Dolosus wrote:So we have a Cal sent that has 830-950hp and has about a 50-30hp/sec regen (respectively, which needs a second or 3 to start up), which can all be vaporized in a second by a well placed Flux, vs a potential +1.3k armor + shield buffer and +150hp/sec repair and damage mod Amarr.
Yeah, I'm not seeing itGǪ Amarr doesn't get that repair without a logi. Caldari can operate independently of it. Do I have to ******* go on protofits and stack shield extenders on a cal sentinel to get the ******* point across to you people?  Dude stacking shield extenders severly penalizes shield delay. So basically a Cal sent has regen lower than scouts but with 4x the amount of base shields. To get high regen you need to run rechargers and sacrifice HP. If you want to tank it out you'll need a complex ragulator that gets rid of the shield stacking penalty leaving you completely dependent on logi support because you have have no armor repair while armor makes up for 40% of the HP. You don't have a single clue about running the suit in the field. Delay kicks in and if one dude pings you it starts all over again. I don't see the problem here. Shield suits are much harder to run than armor suits. Fitting wise and in the field. Did I mention how armor suits are the only ones to effectively benefit from damage mods? Go fly a kite.
Hey funny bamboo did you think of this cal sent are also much harder to shotgun..As ****** a are effective vs armor lol
no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
126
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Posted - 2014.09.01 21:43:00 -
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Wasten wrote:The Gal sentinel is a joke now, I can get about the same hp and reps on my proto assault with better scan and speed.
I've noticed..at least my laser rifle will still be viable in delta
no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
126
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Posted - 2014.09.01 21:44:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote:TBh I kinda agree I don't run cal sent but I do run minnie sentinel ..and amar..The resistance profiles does make a difference
But beyond that what blows my mind about this is..Caldari will have better resistance. .isn't that like against lore?
Fast ..substantial self recover and the best resistance profile...There will be caldari sentinels ever where running alone just slaughtering.
Thanks for the heads up bamboo..looks like it's time to. Polish off my minmatar sent and put away my amarian.
PS ccp if u just gave me my ******* scrambler lance this wouldn't matter
WHERE IS MY SCRAMBLER LANCE Where the fk is everything. They can create from current assets. They just need to slice up the models, resize etc, etc and we can create new weapons using parts off other models and attaching, reshaping etc to existing models. They could at least enlarge the scr, lower the rof and increase damage and heat build up!.............Scrambler lance!.
Nah like the laser rifle but huge dmg multiplier n fast overheat
no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
126
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Posted - 2014.09.01 21:45:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:Jack 3enimble wrote:
Dude stacking shield extenders severly penalizes shield delay. So basically a Cal sent has regen lower than scouts but with 4x the amount of base shields. To get high regen you need to run rechargers and sacrifice HP. If you want to tank it out you'll need a complex ragulator that gets rid of the shield stacking penalty leaving you completely dependent on logi support because you have have no armor repair while armor makes up for 40% of the HP. You don't have a single clue about running the suit in the field. Delay kicks in and if one dude pings you it starts all over again. I don't see the problem here. Shield suits are much harder to run than armor suits. Fitting wise and in the field. Did I mention how armor suits are the only ones to effectively benefit from damage mods?
Go fly a kite.
Amarr does not have the ability to rep his shields. Ever. Once they're gone, they'll be gone for a minute. All the Caldari will have to do at that point is aim for the body and let the Six Kin Burst do the work for him. I wonder, will you be able to OHKO an armor-based heavy with one burst even if his shields are chargd with a headshot?  THINK ABOUT IT YOU FOOLS
Time to pull out my scr ascr commando huh
no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
126
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Posted - 2014.09.01 21:48:00 -
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Jack 3enimble wrote:bamboo x wrote:Jack 3enimble wrote:
Dude stacking shield extenders severly penalizes shield delay. So basically a Cal sent has regen lower than scouts but with 4x the amount of base shields. To get high regen you need to run rechargers and sacrifice HP. If you want to tank it out you'll need a complex ragulator that gets rid of the shield stacking penalty leaving you completely dependent on logi support because you have have no armor repair while armor makes up for 40% of the HP. You don't have a single clue about running the suit in the field. Delay kicks in and if one dude pings you it starts all over again. I don't see the problem here. Shield suits are much harder to run than armor suits. Fitting wise and in the field. Did I mention how armor suits are the only ones to effectively benefit from damage mods?
Go fly a kite.
Amarr does not have the ability to rep his shields. Ever. Once they're gone, they'll be gone for a minute. All the Caldari will have to do at that point is aim for the body and let the Six Kin Burst do the work for him. I wonder, will you be able to OHKO an armor-based heavy with one burst even if his shields are chargd with a headshot? THINK ABOUT IT YOU FOOLS So you want your armor suit to rep shields aswell? My cal sent still needs a armor repair mod to rep armor (the ONLY low slot)What does your sentinel need to rep shields?
When push comes to shove your cal sentinels tank is shield which reps by itself unlike armor. Cal sentinels can brick tank to 100% and maintain recovery on their main tank unlike gal and amar. You don't have to use modules to recover..just to recover faster
no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
126
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Posted - 2014.09.01 21:49:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:bamboo x wrote:Jack 3enimble wrote:
Dude stacking shield extenders severly penalizes shield delay. So basically a Cal sent has regen lower than scouts but with 4x the amount of base shields. To get high regen you need to run rechargers and sacrifice HP. If you want to tank it out you'll need a complex ragulator that gets rid of the shield stacking penalty leaving you completely dependent on logi support because you have have no armor repair while armor makes up for 40% of the HP. You don't have a single clue about running the suit in the field. Delay kicks in and if one dude pings you it starts all over again. I don't see the problem here. Shield suits are much harder to run than armor suits. Fitting wise and in the field. Did I mention how armor suits are the only ones to effectively benefit from damage mods?
Go fly a kite.
Amarr does not have the ability to rep his shields. Ever. Once they're gone, they'll be gone for a minute. All the Caldari will have to do at that point is aim for the body and let the Six Kin Burst do the work for him. I wonder, will you be able to OHKO an armor-based heavy with one burst even if his shields are chargd with a headshot? THINK ABOUT IT YOU FOOLS My assault gets one and two bursted by HMG's all day.
My assault would if I wasn't 100 meters away with lr 
no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
127
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Posted - 2014.09.01 21:51:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:Jack 3enimble wrote:So you want your armor suit to rep shields aswell? My cal sent still needs a armor repair mod to rep armor (the ONLY low slot)What does your sentinel need to rep shields? Go back and read my post. The only thing you actually lose from replacing a shield reg with an armor rep is the regular shield recharge delay. It's still about the same once your shields are depleted. So literally when you are in a real fight against other heavies the shield reg isn't as good as an armor rep because you need that extra buffer against Six Kin Burst. Keep in mind the Burst is getting nerfed again so you will definitely have more survivability against it than Amarr. LOOK... Why don't we do -10/+10 for projectiles, that way Caldari are buffed against shields and the damage against armor stays the same. I am mostly just against the +15 against armor. That is what scares me the most.
now I can definitely get behind -10/+10
no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
127
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Posted - 2014.09.01 22:09:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:It's poorly disguised QQ nothing more.
You know what? I'm done trying to disguise it. People are leaving this game in droves because of CCP nerfing everyone. Most of the best people in my corp have left already. One of our dropship pilots who was ******* LEGENDARY quit because of the installation buff. I'm tired of getting short strawed just like everyone else who lost faith in CCP. I was in a match against Shayz before I made this thread. He was in his proto Caldari assault and I was having a difficult time killing him with my basic Amarr sentinel, but I managed to do it a couple times and even got him once with my Militia Scrambler Pistol. I thought to myself "imagine when shields get buffed against projectiles, I won't even be able to use my HMG against Caldari." Then I messaged him after I played another match against some Caldari heavies because it had finally hit me. What good is a heavy weapon when you can't even use it? Should sentinels start running around with dual pistols? Why should shields be OP against the only heavy weapon there is, when CCP hasn't even given us Gallente or Amarr ones yet?
2 words SCRAMBLER LANCE
no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
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