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Ziiro Celeste Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 291	Posted - 2014.09.01 04:44:00 - [1] - Quote I see a ROF change is on the menu for the ScR for delta. Knowing CCP, the ScR will become as useless as the TAR after its nerf on top of having overheat. Well I hope you all are happy, goes to show that with enough whining and moaning, CCP will bend over backwards to appease you all. No troll here, just honesty - I'm truly disgusted at what this community and game has become: whine about something that kills you too much and CCP nerfs it for you. If this is any indication on how Legion will be, I have no desire to play it. Aisha Ctarl if you didn't know
Robocop Junior Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 809	Posted - 2014.09.01 04:46:00 - [2] - Quote Haha. If strength were all, tiger would not fear scorpion.
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 6921	Posted - 2014.09.01 04:48:00 - [3] - Quote What is your alternative then? Please keep in mind that most of us only want to get rid of the hipfire spam ability. Everything else is fine, we just hate being instakilled in CQC by the modded controller spam. It's not a shotgun for crying out loud, it's supposed to be a mid-long range weapon that relies on careful fire control and accuracy. I got kicked out of the State War Academy for jury-rigging a contact nade launcher to my Rail Rifle WINMATAR!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 13152	Posted - 2014.09.01 04:51:00 - [4] - Quote Ziiro Celeste wrote: I see a ROF change is on the menu for the ScR for delta. Knowing CCP, the ScR will become as useless as the TAR after its nerf on top of having overheat. Well I hope you all are happy, goes to show that with enough whining and moaning, CCP will bend over backwards to appease you all. No troll here, just honesty - I'm truly disgusted at what this community and game has become: whine about something that kills you too much and CCP nerfs it for you. If this is any indication on how Legion will be, I have no desire to play it. Why do we care though? We did our duty better than anyone else when it mattered most. "We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
Ziiro Celeste Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 291	Posted - 2014.09.01 04:54:00 - [5] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: What is your alternative then? Please keep in mind that most of us only want to get rid of the hipfire spam ability. Everything else is fine, we just hate being instakilled in CQC by the modded controller spam. It's not a shotgun for crying out loud, it's supposed to be a mid-long range weapon that relies on careful fire control and accuracy. Nerf its ROF too much though and it goes from charge shot/follow up volley to charge shot oh I can't volley because oversampling it fires too slow. Aisha Ctarl if you didn't know
Michael Arck 5338	Posted - 2014.09.01 04:54:00 - [6] - Quote You truly disgusted with the community now because its the SCR. When the Rail Rifle was introduced, I bet you championed the community as being objective in bringing balance to Dust. Let's be honest here. The SCR has been powerful for a very long time. EDIT: Oh its Aisha! LOL! Makes sense. Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
ZDub 303 Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback 3245	Posted - 2014.09.01 05:03:00 - [7] - Quote TL:DR - I'm mad at potential nerfs to my OP fotm weapon. B C R U are letters, not words - Wierd Al Yankovich
Ziiro Celeste Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 291	Posted - 2014.09.01 05:12:00 - [8] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: TL:DR - I'm mad at potential nerfs to my OP fotm weapon. Broseidon, read my sig and see who I am. I haven't played dust since May...I don't even have a PS3 anymore. Aisha Ctarl if you didn't know
ZDub 303 Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback 3247	Posted - 2014.09.01 05:16:00 - [9] - Quote Ziiro Celeste wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: TL:DR - I'm mad at potential nerfs to my OP fotm weapon. Broseidon, read my sig and see who I am. I haven't played dust since May...I don't even have a PS3 anymore. Then why do you even care about what happens in the short term to the RoF of the ScR? B C R U are letters, not words - Wierd Al Yankovich
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 6921	Posted - 2014.09.01 05:16:00 - [10] - Quote Ziiro Celeste wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: What is your alternative then? Please keep in mind that most of us only want to get rid of the hipfire spam ability. Everything else is fine, we just hate being instakilled in CQC by the modded controller spam. It's not a shotgun for crying out loud, it's supposed to be a mid-long range weapon that relies on careful fire control and accuracy. Nerf its ROF too much though and it goes from charge shot/follow up volley to charge shot oh I can't volley because oversampling it fires too slow. Not what I asked, I asked if you had a fix that circumvents this problem and still solves the issue of modded controllers. We are aware of the dangers of the overnerf, and I don't want to see the ScR going the way of the flaylock. Be the CQC Spam-machine needs to stop. I got kicked out of the State War Academy for jury-rigging a contact nade launcher to my Rail Rifle WINMATAR!

Rusty Shallows Caldari State 2064	Posted - 2014.09.01 05:25:00 - [11] - Quote Ziiro Celeste wrote: snip Knowing CCP, the ScR will become as useless as the TAR after its nerf on top of having overheat. Well I hope you all are happy, goes to show that with enough whining and moaning, CCP will bend over backwards to appease you all. The TAR got nerfed because it was superior or to the Assault Rifle. During AR 514 everything that was a threat to the Assault Rifle was nerfed. Apparently even Assault Rifle variants, same thing happened with the Breech AR in closed beta. Ziiro Celeste wrote: No troll here, just honesty - I'm truly disgusted at what this community and game has become: whine about something that kills you too much and CCP nerfs it for you. It would have helped if there was better communication with CCP and our toxic issues didn't drive away the smart people. Ziiro Celeste wrote: If this is any indication on how Legion will be, I have no desire to play it. If Legion actually links with Eve Online in a meaningful way then don't bother trying it out. The social politics there makes our shenanigans look like the kiddy pool. I have a lot of respect for Classic Logis. New Eden could use more Healers. Forums > Game: Biggest understatement ever
Cody Sietz Evzones Public.Disorder. 3942	Posted - 2014.09.01 05:32:00 - [12] - Quote Welp, the only way the ScR can be nerfed into the ground is if the ScR using community refuses to talk about any balance changes. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Spectre-M The Generals Anime Empire. 773	Posted - 2014.09.01 06:08:00 - [13] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Ziiro Celeste wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: What is your alternative then? Please keep in mind that most of us only want to get rid of the hipfire spam ability. Everything else is fine, we just hate being instakilled in CQC by the modded controller spam. It's not a shotgun for crying out loud, it's supposed to be a mid-long range weapon that relies on careful fire control and accuracy. Nerf its ROF too much though and it goes from charge shot/follow up volley to charge shot oh I can't volley because oversampling it fires too slow. Not what I asked, I asked if you had a fix that circumvents this problem and still solves the issue of modded controllers. We are aware of the dangers of the overnerf, and I don't want to see the ScR going the way of the flaylock. Be the CQC Spam-machine needs to stop. Heat per shot, not per second. Same for kick on any weapon. It's been suggested since the days of the TAR. Minnmitar in Amarr armor. A Wolf in Sheeps clothing. May the Empress live till she graces my sights.
Fizzer XCIV Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 187	Posted - 2014.09.01 07:29:00 - [14] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Welp, the only way the ScR can be nerfed into the ground is if the ScR using community refuses to talk about any balance changes. We have been discussing it, or at least I have for sure. I've seen others admit that there is problems as well. The damn thing is just far to easy a target for modded hardware users. The just of what we are saying is: Don't nerf it enough that it oversamples because we want a smoothly firing weapon still, but fix modded hardware use. The best way to do this, IMO, would be to drop the RoF to 540, and add some way for the game to detect modded controllers.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3390	Posted - 2014.09.01 08:48:00 - [15] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Welp, the only way the ScR can be nerfed into the ground is if the ScR using community refuses to talk about any balance changes. We have been discussing it, or at least I have for sure. I've seen others admit that there is problems as well. The damn thing is just far to easy a target for modded hardware users. The just of what we are saying is: Don't nerf it enough that it oversamples because we want a smoothly firing weapon still, but fix modded hardware use. The best way to do this, IMO, would be to drop the RoF to 540, and add some way for the game to detect modded controllers. But at what point do you say it's fair to achieve the max ROF? At 540 (9 a second) your still looking at ridiculous DPS values, even at 8 (to assume over samplers, under samplers etc) your still churning out 576 DPS. If we buffed the Assault Rifle by 126 DPS and reduced it's mag by 50% would that be a balanced weapon? If not, then why is the ScR balanced in this state? They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
CommanderBolt Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 1449	Posted - 2014.09.01 09:25:00 - [16] - Quote The Scrambler rifle has need a ~Small~ RoF nerf since forever! THAT BEING SAID - I HOPE CCP DOES NOT OVER NERF THE WEAPON LIKE THEY DID WITH THE TAC AR IN THE PAST! -=#[ Gastun's Forge ]#=- MY LIFE FOR AIUR! "I'm wasting away here" - "Get me back into zee fight!
RogueTrooper 2000AD Neckbeard Absolution 265	Posted - 2014.09.01 12:47:00 - [17] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: What is your alternative then? Please keep in mind that most of us only want to get rid of the hipfire spam ability. Everything else is fine, we just hate being instakilled in CQC by the modded controller spam. It's not a shotgun for crying out loud, it's supposed to be a mid-long range weapon that relies on careful fire control and accuracy. Don't worry, it will be scouts 514 eventually, we are not far off. Take what i say with a bag of salt Who needs a gun when you can run people over FW saboteur
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 711	Posted - 2014.09.01 12:54:00 - [18] - Quote Ziiro Celeste wrote: I see a ROF change is on the menu for the ScR for delta. Knowing CCP, the ScR will become as useless as the TAR after its nerf on top of having overheat. Well I hope you all are happy, goes to show that with enough whining and moaning, CCP will bend over backwards to appease you all. No troll here, just honesty - I'm truly disgusted at what this community and game has become: whine about something that kills you too much and CCP nerfs it for you. If this is any indication on how Legion will be, I have no desire to play it. actually its a full nerf to the ScR.. but a buff to assault ScR.. people will just go use the assault now i bet. [[LogiBro in Training]] Level 1 Forum Pariah
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 345	Posted - 2014.09.01 12:56:00 - [19] - Quote Ziiro Celeste wrote: I see a ROF change is on the menu for the ScR for delta. Knowing CCP, the ScR will become as useless as the TAR after its nerf on top of having overheat. Well I hope you all are happy, goes to show that with enough whining and moaning, CCP will bend over backwards to appease you all. No troll here, just honesty - I'm truly disgusted at what this community and game has become: whine about something that kills you too much and CCP nerfs it for you. If this is any indication on how Legion will be, I have no desire to play it. YAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SLAYER.
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 711	Posted - 2014.09.01 12:56:00 - [20] - Quote RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: What is your alternative then? Please keep in mind that most of us only want to get rid of the hipfire spam ability. Everything else is fine, we just hate being instakilled in CQC by the modded controller spam. It's not a shotgun for crying out loud, it's supposed to be a mid-long range weapon that relies on careful fire control and accuracy. Don't worry, it will be scouts 514 eventually, we are not far off. i had a match whiched seemed to be nothing but scouts and the odd logi on an opposing team.. it was bad nothing but crutch useing shotgun weilding scrubs.. which were mostly caldari scouts too.. what happened to the good old pro scouts form back in the day? hell id love to see what a squad of Minja's could do [[LogiBro in Training]] Level 1 Forum Pariah

ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1454	Posted - 2014.09.01 13:25:00 - [21] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: Ziiro Celeste wrote: I see a ROF change is on the menu for the ScR for delta. Knowing CCP, the ScR will become as useless as the TAR after its nerf on top of having overheat. Well I hope you all are happy, goes to show that with enough whining and moaning, CCP will bend over backwards to appease you all. No troll here, just honesty - I'm truly disgusted at what this community and game has become: whine about something that kills you too much and CCP nerfs it for you. If this is any indication on how Legion will be, I have no desire to play it. actually its a full nerf to the ScR.. but a buff to assault ScR.. people will just go use the assault now i bet. People are going to use my weapon now? :( I don't like that, I like only seeing AScR with my name in the killboard. If you find an issue and I stumble upon your thread, I will do my darnedest to get the issue known. Also, Raptors...
Mejt0 The Only Survivor. 446	Posted - 2014.09.01 14:39:00 - [22] - Quote Yes. Ccp and community gonna nerf ScR. That already happening. Theres one thing that can be done. Force whinners to QQ about some other gun so +¡t will also get nerfed. Gonna happend sooner or later. Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
Ziiro Celeste Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 296	Posted - 2014.09.01 16:14:00 - [23] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Ziiro Celeste wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: TL:DR - I'm mad at potential nerfs to my OP fotm weapon. Broseidon, read my sig and see who I am. I haven't played dust since May...I don't even have a PS3 anymore. Then why do you even care about what happens in the short term to the RoF of the ScR? Because it's the principle the matter brotato chip. Aisha Ctarl if you didn't know
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect 1731	Posted - 2014.09.01 16:21:00 - [24] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: What is your alternative then? Please keep in mind that most of us only want to get rid of the hipfire spam ability. Everything else is fine, we just hate being instakilled in CQC by the modded controller spam. It's not a shotgun for crying out loud, it's supposed to be a mid-long range weapon that relies on careful fire control and accuracy. What is it, the hipfire spam or the turbo controller hipfire spam, even the RR witch is THE long range assault rifle has a hipfire reticule as tight as a virgins *****. Make the gun overheat instantly if it detects a turbo controller, its not hard to code to check for super precise clicks, 1, 2, 3, 4 and bam Jam + overheat(9000) damage to the face, it will really put off turbo controller users. But nooooooo, lets just nerf it to the ground guys!!! PS: its awesome Destiny launches in 8 days. Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Blacklight (PS4)"
Zindorak 1.U.P 765	Posted - 2014.09.01 16:23:00 - [25] - Quote Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo I am very dissapointed in you guys saying that the ScR is OP and all that nonsense now you got a balanced weapon now made useless. I wish we could do the same to RR Pokemon master! CCP undo ScP nerf. It hurt my feering very bad
Jack 3enimble Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 268	Posted - 2014.09.01 16:26:00 - [26] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: What is your alternative then? Please keep in mind that most of us only want to get rid of the hipfire spam ability. Everything else is fine, we just hate being instakilled in CQC by the modded controller spam. It's not a shotgun for crying out loud, it's supposed to be a mid-long range weapon that relies on careful fire control and accuracy. What is it, the hipfire spam or the turbo controller hipfire spam, even the RR witch is THE long range assault rifle has a hipfire reticule as tight as a virgins *****. Make the gun overheat instantly if it detects a turbo controller, its not hard to code to check for super precise clicks, 1, 2, 3, 4 and bam Jam + overheat(9000) damage to the face, it will really put off turbo controller users. But nooooooo, lets just nerf it to the ground guys!!! PS: its awesome Destiny launches in 8 days. Who said it's nerfed to the ground. Premature QQ ftw I guess
Sum1ne Else Fatal Absolution 1394	Posted - 2014.09.01 16:31:00 - [27] - Quote I am Level 5 Amarr Assault, with pro 4 SCR. I advocate this ROF change. If you dont, you are probably a turbo controller user..or crutch chasing. I dont think it will be as bad as the tacAR nerf way back when Longest PLC Kill - 193.71m *Logi mk.0 - Com gk.0 - Scout gk.0 - Ass ak.0*
Joel II X Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 3233	Posted - 2014.09.01 16:33:00 - [28] - Quote Ziiro Celeste wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: TL:DR - I'm mad at potential nerfs to my OP fotm weapon. Broseidon, read my sig and see who I am. I haven't played dust since May...I don't even have a PS3 anymore. Then why do you care? Lol Sometimes, you make no sense, forums.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 4698	Posted - 2014.09.01 16:42:00 - [29] - Quote How does preventing turbo controller abuse break anything? Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Monty Mole Clone Shiv M 204	Posted - 2014.09.01 16:42:00 - [30] - Quote roll on triple damage modded rails and combat rifles i say, been using only amarr tech since the beginning of uprising. i think im due a change of pace lets just burn this motherfucker down pew pew goes my scram rifle zap zap goes my scram pistol



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