|  Jammeh McJam
 New Age Empire.
 General Tso's Alliance
 
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      | Posted - 2014.09.01 01:59:00 -
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 Hector Carson wrote:manboar thunder fist wrote:Before you assume the worst let me point out a few facts:
 2 particle cannon shots take out ads
 3 swarm volleys kill ads
 2 afg shots destroy ads
 1 40k gorgon rammer burns ads
 1 bump with a building decimates ads
 
 Also consider this:
 
 Even with afterburner on after 1st volley hits the second volley of swarm always connects
 With 1 volley of swarms it is possible for fg to 1 shot ads
 Afterburner provides acceleration boost NOT speed boost
 Fuel injector does provide speed boost
 
 Typical ads costs 500k and requires sp in vehicles, dropships, assault dropships, factional dropships, armour upgrades, armour optimisation, armour repair, armour composition, shield upgrades, shield optimisation, shield depleted recharge, core skills and all small turret skills.
 
 Typical proto swarm requires any dropsuit, weaponry, light weaponry and swarm launcher + proficiency and reload. And costs 60k
 
 Losing an ads a match is not viable economically.
 
 Currently swarms severely damage and kill ads in one clip... The good pilots use their afterburner and flight skills to dodge the 3rd volley of swarms. There are maye maximum 200 ads pilots, 30 max do pc
 There are countless swarm launchers and any 2 av infantry working together will kill ads easily
 
 I'm sick of people wanting a god mode easy win dumb fire swarm launcher
 
 If any CCP dev has a problem with my statements make a video of you "completely ignoring av" in the "fotm ads"
 Lol he's just mad because he got taken out of the air by the new swarms, don't waste money on ads if you don't know how to avoid getting hit If the proposed changes to swarms vs ADS come with hotfix delta then there won't be a way to escape, swarms will always catch up
 
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        |  Jammeh McJam
 New Age Empire.
 General Tso's Alliance
 
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      | Posted - 2014.09.01 12:35:00 -
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 @ atiim, can you link to the post where you heard that ADS price was being reduced in delta? It was supposed to be in charlie but it was taken out at the last minute, and i've seen nothing about it being in delta. The ONLY way to survive swarms in an ADS is to run, once swarms are made faster then that will no longer be possible.
 
 "We may be small and disorganized, but we're still gonna kill you" - Intergalactic Super Friends MAG ~ Raven vet | 
      
      
        |  Jammeh McJam
 New Age Empire.
 General Tso's Alliance
 
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      | Posted - 2014.09.01 20:32:00 -
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 Atiim wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:manboar thunder fist wrote:3 swarm volleys kill ads
 
 Can't comment on the other claims, but this claim is false.  Repeating it over and over again won't make it true.  - Pro(5) Swarmer They do as long as the person doesn't run and doesn't tank. Tank as in like 3100 shield python and 4000+ armor incubus. My 2555 shield dies in 3 volleys easy to pro 5 swarmser.  Proficiency doesn't effect Shield Damage, so with the -20% you've got 3834 eHP against a Swarm Launcher. 3 Volleys deals 3744HP, so you'll be left with 90HP (dangerously low). However, you should already be out of their lock range well before 4.2s anyways. That is assuming however, that they aren't using Damage Modifiers... Atiim noone tanks dropships...
 
 "We may be small and disorganized, but we're still gonna kill you" - Intergalactic Super Friends MAG ~ Raven vet |