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LOGAN XIII wrote:

This is the only game I know of where people go into a match with the intent of trying NOT to win. WHY THE UNHOLY HELL IS THAT?
I have gone into match's that started out really good. My team has the majority of null points (skirmish, my favorite mode) then part was through they just stop trying, they kind of just roll over and present themselves for mounting. Then while i'm trying to motivate them, give direction or tactical suggestions. I get derided, I catch flak for trying. I'm sorry, but I grew up in the era before they started handing out trophies for just showing up. We had to earn the trophies. You didn't when , guess what? The only thing you got was pizza after the game.
The lamest excuse I get during my DI inspired motivation speech's is "It's just a game." Football is just a game. But, you don't see the Raiders , the Bears, Steelers, Packers or the Vikings going out and NOT trying to kick ass. Baseball is just a game. But, you don't see any of the going out there and not trying to win. Hell, Monopoly is just a game, but I don't know of one person the at plays that GAME and doesn't try to own every property.
But yet, here on Dust it's ok to be Losers. So, what if there are Molon Labe players on the other team, so what if there are Contract Hunters, Opus Arcana, or any of the other "Hot" corps. They are just like you. Not all of them are "Top gun" players.
Just saying.


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Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2203	Posted - 2014.09.02 17:50:00 - [1] - Quote LOGAN XIII wrote: This is the only game I know of where people go into a match with the intent of trying NOT to win. WHY THE UNHOLY HELL IS THAT? I have gone into match's that started out really good. My team has the majority of null points (skirmish, my favorite mode) then part was through they just stop trying, they kind of just roll over and present themselves for mounting. Then while i'm trying to motivate them, give direction or tactical suggestions. I get derided, I catch flak for trying. I'm sorry, but I grew up in the era before they started handing out trophies for just showing up. We had to earn the trophies. You didn't when , guess what? The only thing you got was pizza after the game. The lamest excuse I get during my DI inspired motivation speech's is "It's just a game." Football is just a game. But, you don't see the Raiders , the Bears, Steelers, Packers or the Vikings going out and NOT trying to kick ass. Baseball is just a game. But, you don't see any of the going out there and not trying to win. Hell, Monopoly is just a game, but I don't know of one person the at plays that GAME and doesn't try to own every property. But yet, here on Dust it's ok to be Losers. So, what if there are Molon Labe players on the other team, so what if there are Contract Hunters, Opus Arcana, or any of the other "Hot" corps. They are just like you. Not all of them are "Top gun" players. Just saying. One of the big drivers of this loser mentality is that CCP builds it right into the mechanics of their game in the form of their WP/ISK payouts, match win'loss payouts and especially their passive in-match sp charity(and don't forget their laughably clownish attenppt at a 'rubberband-proof' AFK mechanic). Then throw in the redline mechanics. There's more, but i'll stop there. You can blame the players that aren't sufficiently bloody-minded, but i blame CCP for cutting off real competition at the knees. Tbh, i've never heard a CCP employee address any of these issues which are the real drivers of player dynamics in this game. PSN: RationalSpark
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2207	Posted - 2014.09.03 21:11:00 - [2] - Quote Bethhy wrote: There has never been a reason to win except your own ego. CCP doesn't incentivize or teach players to get better or be better at DUST 514. Instead they dumb down the game and make it easy, drastically reduce TTK and install aim assists that track targets for you. Fixing lag, FPS drops, Hit detection mechanics, Aiming mechanics, Physics, Collision Mechanics, Terrain stickyness, Invisible walls, Map construction... Has never been something they have fixed even closely... They just had to build and maintain a solid game to make it a success... Instead they have cut every corner and done what is "easy" and gone the "LAzy" route at every turn. It's sad... but you get what you give. So true and so sad. New Eden was the right place, CCP was the wrong developer. PSN: RationalSpark