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Soulja Ghostface
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Posted - 2014.08.30 16:35:00 -
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Quote:Its crazy and unfair how i can't derp charge around in wide open field without dying by a tank every 30 seconds.
The enemy team had a guy go 30-0 with a tank
-Clueless red dot (Who shot at tank with combat rifle)
Yet rifle guys go 70-1 and nobody is complaining about that? Infantry are funny.
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Scheneighnay McBob
Cult of Gasai
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Posted - 2014.08.30 17:14:00 -
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u can git tanks bak in ambush if mai rale riffle can blow up ur tank by shoting ekzaust vent
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Adipem Nothi
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Posted - 2014.08.30 17:16:00 -
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70-1?
That'd be an impressive feat for an infantry unit.
Being that red-dots can shoot back at infantry units.
Shoot scout with yes.
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Scheneighnay McBob
Cult of Gasai
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Posted - 2014.08.30 17:16:00 -
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everybody knows that futuristic tanks will have the build quality of the death star
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Soulja Ghostface
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Posted - 2014.08.30 17:20:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:70-1? Quite the impressive feat for an infantry unit.
Being that red-dots can shoot back at infantry units.
Didn't tibs go 90-2 or was it arkena wynspire?
I've seen aldin khan go 60-0
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Adipem Nothi
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Posted - 2014.08.30 17:24:00 -
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Soulja Ghostface wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:70-1? Quite the impressive feat for an infantry unit.
Being that red-dots can shoot back at infantry units. Didn't tibs go 90-2 or was it arkena wynspire? I've seen aldin khan go 60-0
Dunno. The better question is how these guys got to play a 90 clone ambush match.
Shoot scout with yes.
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Spectre-M
The Generals
Anime Empire.
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Posted - 2014.08.30 17:24:00 -
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I think it's more along the lines of what was mentioned in the third post.
Infantry have significantly less hp and resistance, if at all.
The only weapon incabable of killing infantry is the swarm launcher.
Vehicles require specific weapons to deal suitable damage.
Besides, ambush was just a game mode for pilots to farm infantry at "smart derploy" spawn locations. It seems everyone forgets how NS use to go from smart deploy to smart deploy with 2 drop ships and 3 tanks negating any small arms play. And we wonder why there's no NPE to speak of.
Minnmitar in Amarr armor.
A Wolf in Sheeps clothing.
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Rusty Shallows
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.08.30 17:36:00 -
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Soulja Ghostface wrote:Quote:Its crazy and unfair how i can't derp charge around in wide open field without dying by a tank every 30 seconds.
The enemy team had a guy go 30-0 with a tank
-Clueless red dot (Who shot at tank with combat rifle)
Yet rifle guys go 70-1 and nobody is complaining about that? Infantry are funny.
Ignoring the rage element and fiction we have used match KDR to rationalize nerfing. "Over Performing," has been a problem. Would you prefer blanket vehicle nerfing instead?
If the proposed options bothers you so much then offer another solution.
I have a lot of respect for Classic Logis. New Eden could use more Healers.
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Soulja Ghostface
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Posted - 2014.08.30 17:44:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:Soulja Ghostface wrote:Quote:Its crazy and unfair how i can't derp charge around in wide open field without dying by a tank every 30 seconds.
The enemy team had a guy go 30-0 with a tank
-Clueless red dot (Who shot at tank with combat rifle)
Yet rifle guys go 70-1 and nobody is complaining about that? Infantry are funny. Ignoring the rage element and fiction we have used match KDR to rationalize nerfing. "Over Performing," has been a problem. Would you prefer blanket vehicle nerfing instead? If the proposed options bothers you so much then offer another solution.
"Over Performing" isn't a problem. It's when you do what you do best and your good at it and the enemy team does nothing or little to nothing to stop you. Look at cyrius li moody's 60 bomb video and the play and counter play. He goes into detail better than I could about that subject
Vehicles should be allowed in every game mode as they are a important dynamic that if used in symbiosis with friendly infantry better than the other team will win the battle.
Krd matchmaking won't fix a thing Might even make it worse.
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Soulja Ghostface
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Posted - 2014.08.30 17:45:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Soulja Ghostface wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:70-1? Quite the impressive feat for an infantry unit.
Being that red-dots can shoot back at infantry units. Didn't tibs go 90-2 or was it arkena wynspire? I've seen aldin khan go 60-0 Dunno. The better question is how these guys got into a 90 clone ambush match.
Wasn't an ambush. The point is that light weapons have more killing potential and people cry and ask for changes to vehicles that have never gotten stats that light weapons did.
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings
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Posted - 2014.08.30 17:49:00 -
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remove logis from ambush
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Robocop Junior
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.08.30 17:53:00 -
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Remove radar from ambush.
If strength were all, tiger would not fear scorpion.
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Scheneighnay McBob
Cult of Gasai
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Posted - 2014.08.30 17:55:00 -
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A friend of mine (who, barely plays Dust, for the record) passed 20 kills just by sitting in a rail turret.
Not saying rails are OP, I'm saying the reds in that battle were absolute idiots to not even attempt flanking, all while standing nice and still for the direct hit. The few times they attempted AV, it was about 50m away from the turret, so they were easy kills.
This is how stupid the infantry who whine about tanks are.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2014.08.30 17:56:00 -
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Soulja Ghostface wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Soulja Ghostface wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:70-1? Quite the impressive feat for an infantry unit.
Being that red-dots can shoot back at infantry units. Didn't tibs go 90-2 or was it arkena wynspire? I've seen aldin khan go 60-0 Dunno. The better question is how these guys got into a 90 clone ambush match. Wasn't an ambush. The point is that light weapons have more killing potential and people cry and ask for changes to vehicles that have never gotten stats that light weapons did.
The difference is that everyone can shoot back at infantry.
Militia Rail Rifles and Shotguns kill protobears all day every day.
Shoot scout with yes.
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General12912
Gallente Marine Corps
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Posted - 2014.08.30 18:14:00 -
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Soulja Ghostface wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:70-1? Quite the impressive feat for an infantry unit.
Being that red-dots can shoot back at infantry units. Didn't tibs go 90-2 or was it arkena wynspire? I've seen aldin khan go 60-0
even so, its not common. you have to be a major pro to do that. you may as well join MLG
Every suit Gk.0 <3
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Soulja Ghostface
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Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.08.30 18:18:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Soulja Ghostface wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Soulja Ghostface wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:70-1? Quite the impressive feat for an infantry unit.
Being that red-dots can shoot back at infantry units. Didn't tibs go 90-2 or was it arkena wynspire? I've seen aldin khan go 60-0 Dunno. The better question is how these guys got into a 90 clone ambush match. Wasn't an ambush. The point is that light weapons have more killing potential and people cry and ask for changes to vehicles that have never gotten stats that light weapons did. The difference is that everyone can shoot back at infantry. Militia Rail Rifles and Shotguns kill protobears all day every day.
HAV = Heavy Assault Vehicle
You want rail rifles to kill that? (Honest answer please)
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Rusty Shallows
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.08.30 19:06:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:A friend of mine (who, barely plays Dust, for the record) passed 20 kills just by sitting in a rail turret.
Not saying rails are OP, I'm saying the reds in that battle were absolute idiots to not even attempt flanking, all while standing nice and still for the direct hit. The few times they attempted AV, it was about 50m away from the turret, so they were easy kills.
This is how stupid the infantry who whine about tanks are.
So you are saying rails are so easy to use a n00b can farm a match? But the problem is with everyone else?
I have a lot of respect for Classic Logis. New Eden could use more Healers.
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Soulja Ghostface
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Posted - 2014.08.30 19:10:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:A friend of mine (who, barely plays Dust, for the record) passed 20 kills just by sitting in a rail turret.
Not saying rails are OP, I'm saying the reds in that battle were absolute idiots to not even attempt flanking, all while standing nice and still for the direct hit. The few times they attempted AV, it was about 50m away from the turret, so they were easy kills.
This is how stupid the infantry who whine about tanks are. So you are saying rails are so easy to use a n00b can farm a match? But the problem is with everyone else?
He was farming n00bs. It is much harder to hit a strafing target with a rail.
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Zindorak
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Posted - 2014.08.30 19:11:00 -
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Stupid troll is Stupid
Newsflash buddy you can shoot Mr Rifle Infantry but you can't shoot tanks. But if you Swarm or Forge them they run off like the cowardly fools they are
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Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.08.30 19:13:00 -
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It's hilarious how ambush weenies complain about tanks in their game. I farm tank drivers for WP and kills. Whenever I;'m in ambush OMS I'm the only jerk with an AV weapon. suits me just fine.
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Soulja Ghostface
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Posted - 2014.08.30 19:14:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:Stupid troll is Stupid
Newsflash buddy you can shoot Mr Rifle Infantry but you can't shoot tanks. But if you Swarm or Forge them they run off like the cowardly fools they are
That is not cowardly, that is playing smart with your asset
It's like calling dropsuits cowards because they take cover after getting shot instead of fighting like a man
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Zindorak
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Posted - 2014.08.30 19:18:00 -
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Soulja Ghostface wrote:Zindorak wrote:Stupid troll is Stupid
Newsflash buddy you can shoot Mr Rifle Infantry but you can't shoot tanks. But if you Swarm or Forge them they run off like the cowardly fools they are That is not cowardly, that is playing smart with your asset It's like calling dropsuits cowards because they take cover after getting shot instead of fighting like a man
Well if thats the case we could just call in 3 drop ships and Hide at the top of the map
Pokemon master!
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Soulja Ghostface
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Posted - 2014.08.30 19:21:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:Soulja Ghostface wrote:Zindorak wrote:Stupid troll is Stupid
Newsflash buddy you can shoot Mr Rifle Infantry but you can't shoot tanks. But if you Swarm or Forge them they run off like the cowardly fools they are That is not cowardly, that is playing smart with your asset It's like calling dropsuits cowards because they take cover after getting shot instead of fighting like a man Well if thats the case we could just call in 3 drop ships and Hide at the top of the map
You act as if they stay there for the whole match. And if they do they they ust hurting their own team
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Zindorak
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Posted - 2014.08.30 19:23:00 -
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Soulja Ghostface wrote:Zindorak wrote:Soulja Ghostface wrote:Zindorak wrote:Stupid troll is Stupid
Newsflash buddy you can shoot Mr Rifle Infantry but you can't shoot tanks. But if you Swarm or Forge them they run off like the cowardly fools they are That is not cowardly, that is playing smart with your asset It's like calling dropsuits cowards because they take cover after getting shot instead of fighting like a man Well if thats the case we could just call in 3 drop ships and Hide at the top of the map You act as if they stay there for the whole match. And if they do they they ust hurting their own team
Well they aren't helping. It's just like Redline snipers they sit there like a sitting duck and only getting 1 or 2 kills. they aren't very useful
Pokemon master!
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2014.08.30 20:15:00 -
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Soulja Ghostface wrote:
HAV = Heavy Assault Vehicle
You want rail rifles and shotguns to kill that? (Honest answer please)
Not at all.
You can't compare infantry performance with HAV/ADS performance.
That's the only point I'm trying to make here.
If you were to ask "why can't I compare the two?" I would say b/c infantry can shoot back at infantry.
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Onesimus Tarsus
is-a-Corporation
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Posted - 2014.08.30 20:16:00 -
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Soulja Ghostface wrote:Quote:Its crazy and unfair how i can't derp charge around in wide open field without dying by a tank every 30 seconds.
The enemy team had a guy go 30-0 with a tank
-Clueless red dot (Who shot at tank with combat rifle)
Yet rifle guys go 70-1 and nobody is complaining about that? Infantry are funny.
KDR matchmaking fixes this.
K/D(r) matchmaking fixes the whole game. Red line snipers and tankers hate it.
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Rusty Shallows
Caldari State
2059
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Posted - 2014.08.30 20:35:00 -
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Soulja Ghostface wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:A friend of mine (who, barely plays Dust, for the record) passed 20 kills just by sitting in a rail turret.
Not saying rails are OP, I'm saying the reds in that battle were absolute idiots to not even attempt flanking, all while standing nice and still for the direct hit. The few times they attempted AV, it was about 50m away from the turret, so they were easy kills.
This is how stupid the infantry who whine about tanks are. So you are saying rails are so easy to use a n00b can farm a match? But the problem is with everyone else? He was farming n00bs. It is much harder to hit a strafing target with a rail.
Something similar was said about sniper rifles. Look how that ended.
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Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
2434
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Posted - 2014.08.30 22:18:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Soulja Ghostface wrote:
HAV = Heavy Assault Vehicle
You want rail rifles and shotguns to kill that? (Honest answer please)
Not at all. You can't compare infantry performance with HAV/ADS performance. That's the only point I'm trying to make here. If you were to ask "why can't I compare the two?"I would say b/c they're quite different. If you were to ask "how are they different?"I would say b/c infantry can shoot back at infantry. Make sense?
Infantry can shoot back at vehicles just fine.
What's the problem here?
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Scheneighnay McBob
Cult of Gasai
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Posted - 2014.08.30 22:31:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:Stupid troll is Stupid
Newsflash buddy you can shoot Mr Rifle Infantry but you can't shoot tanks. But if you Swarm or Forge them they run off like the cowardly fools they are
So... avoiding something that would otherwise kill you is cowardly and foolish?
And I suppose your anti-sniper strategy is to tank their shots with your face while charging straight at them through the open.
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Scheneighnay McBob
Cult of Gasai
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Posted - 2014.08.30 22:33:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:Soulja Ghostface wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:A friend of mine (who, barely plays Dust, for the record) passed 20 kills just by sitting in a rail turret.
Not saying rails are OP, I'm saying the reds in that battle were absolute idiots to not even attempt flanking, all while standing nice and still for the direct hit. The few times they attempted AV, it was about 50m away from the turret, so they were easy kills.
This is how stupid the infantry who whine about tanks are. So you are saying rails are so easy to use a n00b can farm a match? But the problem is with everyone else? He was farming n00bs. It is much harder to hit a strafing target with a rail. Something similar was said about sniper rifles. Look how that ended.
With snipers, we weren't dealing with ones sitting in the open, on the ground and close to the frontline.
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Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
2436
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Posted - 2014.08.30 22:40:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:
With snipers, we weren't dealing with ones sitting in the open, on the ground and close to the frontline.
There's your problem, irishman. You're trying to use logic. You should know better.
They're going to scream bloody murder that tanks are unfair till the day they die, even though you and I both know if you're in a tank and I get six seconds behind your tank, there's gonna be some serious feelings of violation happening in rapid order.
But engaging a tank or ADS intelligently is too much effort.
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Scheneighnay McBob
Cult of Gasai
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Posted - 2014.08.30 22:49:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:
With snipers, we weren't dealing with ones sitting in the open, on the ground and close to the frontline.
There's your problem, irishman. You're trying to use logic. You should know better. They're going to scream bloody murder that tanks are unfair till the day they die, even though you and I both know if you're in a tank and I get six seconds behind your tank, there's gonna be some serious feelings of violation happening in rapid order. But engaging a tank or ADS intelligently is too much effort. I only do it because people get mad when I remove half a million ISk from their inventory.
ADSes are another thing.
And so many damn factors to take into account to figure out of they're balanced that CCP should have removed them with the rest of the vehicle variants.
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Zindorak
1.U.P
744
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Posted - 2014.08.30 22:56:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Zindorak wrote:Stupid troll is Stupid
Newsflash buddy you can shoot Mr Rifle Infantry but you can't shoot tanks. But if you Swarm or Forge them they run off like the cowardly fools they are So... avoiding something that would otherwise kill you is cowardly and foolish? And I suppose your anti-sniper strategy is to tank their shots with your face while charging straight at them through the open.
Loled at first sentence
I don't Anti Snipe because
1.i leave it to the actual snipers
2. Im not gonna lower my self to their scruby play
3. I don't care i will just continue on doing what im doing
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