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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.17 13:30:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:You're probably all wondering what I mean by the "Blue Doughnut".
In Eve Online every system is under 1 of 3 security levels. High-sec, Low-sec, and Null-sec. You already know what each of them are about. High-sec is carebearland, Low-sec is like living in the hood, and Null-sec is like living among the most powerful mafias. Null-sec in particular is what the infamous "Blue Doughnut" is referencing.
The current situation going on right now in Eve Online is that the vast majority of the power blocs residing in Null-sec space are operating what many will call an "oligopoly" which is basically a team-based version of a monopoly where multiple opposing alliances (frienemies so to speak) agree not to get into each other's turfs while securing their own in Null-sec space. This has resulted in many of the power blocs settling down and not getting into as many epic fights as they use to because they can now make more ISK ratting and mining in their own home rather than going out into someone else's turf. An occasional fight happens here and there along the borders but nothing major happens unless one side screws up big time like missing out on a sovereignty bill which is what ignited the battle of B-R5R6. This in turn created what many players in Eve call the "blue doughnut".
Right now, looking at the Eve forums, there doesn't appear to be a clear consensus as to how this should be addressed and CCP has yet to address this problem. New content is great and all, but ignoring the blue doughnut will not make the problem go away.
However, it seemed we managed to get a glimpse into what can actually fix the problem. When Dust 514 first came out, many players looked at Dust and said "oh ****, we have all this muscle in space but nothing to protect the planets from ground troops" or "oh ****, they might one day board my precious titan or worse still, our player-built stations (outposts) and wreak havoc from within".
That kind of fear revealed a possible solution to the Blue Doughnut to everyone who saw the potential. Now that Project Legion is likely to do that, here comes the big question to everyone here: how do you think Legion can impact Null-sec in a way that can wreak havoc with the Blue Doughnut? Can Legion finally create a situation where it is no longer possible to just continue milking Null-sec like how Dust corps milked PC districts in the past?
Discuss.
Project Legion will not be a solution to anything in EVE because it has no link and there is no link planned.
Project Legion is currently slated to be a Destiny clone where in some areas you're allowed to gank. It will not spread its wings beyond that concept, because CCP haven't had a single original thought they were able to make manifest in roughly eight years. |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
4854
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Posted - 2014.09.17 15:19:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Apprently having large maps is cloning destiny. Please work on your trolls the games will have nothing in common other than shoot guns at things on a big map
Destiny is defined as shared sandbox areas with instanced content and competitive modes.
Legion is defined as shared sandbox areas with instanced content and competitive modes.
Not just a troll, but a horrifying fact. They are the same exact model, with Legion carrying a much smaller budget. This was done entirely on purpose because CCP are a bunch of trend chasers and have been forever. And trend chasers usually end up shooting themselves in the foot, which CCP has also been doing since forever.
Destiny is considered to be a great selling, but ultimately mediocre experience. Legion will be a free to play game with even less appeal, plus no Eve link. The Eve link was severed for a reason -- They have GIVEN UP on making their own legitimate original project. This ensures it will almost certainly fail immediately. |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.17 21:04:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:You're probably all wondering what I mean by the "Blue Doughnut".
In Eve Online every system is under 1 of 3 security levels. High-sec, Low-sec, and Null-sec. You already know what each of them are about. High-sec is carebearland, Low-sec is like living in the hood, and Null-sec is like living among the most powerful mafias. Null-sec in particular is what the infamous "Blue Doughnut" is referencing.
The current situation going on right now in Eve Online is that the vast majority of the power blocs residing in Null-sec space are operating what many will call an "oligopoly" which is basically a team-based version of a monopoly where multiple opposing alliances (frienemies so to speak) agree not to get into each other's turfs while securing their own in Null-sec space. This has resulted in many of the power blocs settling down and not getting into as many epic fights as they use to because they can now make more ISK ratting and mining in their own home rather than going out into someone else's turf. An occasional fight happens here and there along the borders but nothing major happens unless one side screws up big time like missing out on a sovereignty bill which is what ignited the battle of B-R5R6. This in turn created what many players in Eve call the "blue doughnut".
Right now, looking at the Eve forums, there doesn't appear to be a clear consensus as to how this should be addressed and CCP has yet to address this problem. New content is great and all, but ignoring the blue doughnut will not make the problem go away.
However, it seemed we managed to get a glimpse into what can actually fix the problem. When Dust 514 first came out, many players looked at Dust and said "oh ****, we have all this muscle in space but nothing to protect the planets from ground troops" or "oh ****, they might one day board my precious titan or worse still, our player-built stations (outposts) and wreak havoc from within".
That kind of fear revealed a possible solution to the Blue Doughnut to everyone who saw the potential. Now that Project Legion is likely to do that, here comes the big question to everyone here: how do you think Legion can impact Null-sec in a way that can wreak havoc with the Blue Doughnut? Can Legion finally create a situation where it is no longer possible to just continue milking Null-sec like how Dust corps milked PC districts in the past?
Discuss. Project Legion will not be a solution to anything in EVE because it has no link and there is no link planned. Project Legion is currently slated to be a Destiny clone where in some areas you're allowed to gank. It will not spread its wings beyond that concept, because CCP haven't had a single original thought they were able to make manifest in roughly eight years. According to CCP Rouge, that's only for the initial phase of Legion's development. After everything is settled and ready (post-release) then CCP will consider linking the two games. The separation of the two games is not going to be a permanent thing for Legion and Eve.
I've spent ten years listening to the same crap repeated again and again as CCP have boldly proclaimed they will do something, then continually scale it back through feature abandonment to the point that Peter Molyneux looks like a reputable individual.
So forgive me if I don't share your insanity and complete lack of observation regarding their capabilities.
But hey, it's a wonderful Cult. Every Cult needs its desperate followers. |
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