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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.28 19:51:00 -
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That part about getting into a bunch of terrible matches is the crappy part.
FFS can we get the payouts increased or SOMETHING??
Maybe a 200K bonus for getting over 500 WP? Something to get people fighting.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.28 21:30:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:That part about getting into a bunch of terrible matches is the crappy part.
FFS can we get the payouts increased or SOMETHING??
Maybe a 200K bonus for getting over 500 WP? Something to get people fighting. Use cheaper gear if you feel the isk isn't worth it. No one said you had to proto stomp in pubs. Isk payouts are fine, learn to be strategic and to not overcommit or go full tilt. You have no one to blame but yourself when you lose 3 tanks and 10 proto fits in a single match etc. etc.
Yep. They are great! That's why nobody AFKs or redline snipes
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.28 21:31:00 -
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:I've been having a lot of balanced matches since HF Charlie
What channel do hang in?
I want to run with you.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.30 21:41:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:That part about getting into a bunch of terrible matches is the crappy part.
FFS can we get the payouts increased or SOMETHING??
Maybe a 200K bonus for getting over 500 WP? Something to get people fighting. Use cheaper gear if you feel the isk isn't worth it. No one said you had to proto stomp in pubs. Isk payouts are fine, learn to be strategic and to not overcommit or go full tilt. You have no one to blame but yourself when you lose 3 tanks and 10 proto fits in a single match etc. etc. Yep. They are great! That's why nobody AFKs or redline snipes Most people afk or redline snipe because their team is full of newberries. Raising the isk payout will do nothing but inflate the already inflated economy. What's the point in even having an isk system if the isk payout compensates for bad play? Besides if half your team is afking you should be running standard gear. You would have to die like 30 times in a match to lose isk in standard gear. The only way the half afk/sniping matches will end is if real matchmaking is introduced. This would probably require pubs to become squad prohibited though so be careful what you wish for.
Inflated economy, lol.
The single greatest myth in Dust.
Incentives drive behavior. Get paid more to perform well and win and you will see people trying harder. AFK (zero WP) should get ZERO.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.30 21:56:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:
Most people afk or redline snipe because their team is full of newberries.
No. People AFK because you are rewarded for merely being alive in the match instead of for participating. Stop that and AFK'ing dies right away. Of course, that would also mean that bad players would get almost no SP and their progress would grind to a virtual halt, and that would drive new players out even faster than getting proto stomped. This toon started out as an alt, and was AFK'd with boosters running for a couple of months to avoid having to go through the trouble of actually earning the SP to become a semi competent member of a team. Why would anyone do it other wise when the penalty for playing with baseline SP is so high, and the cost of AFKing is nil?
I'd rather see people start with 10 mil SP and have a system that rewards participation than what we currently see.
I'd rather see everyone able to run proto 24/7 than see us continue pretending there will ever be a player market. Because of passive PC ISK/salaries we see the top 1-5% of Dust able to run proto non stop. Even if it's not sustainable forever it would take years for a 4-5 KDR individual to spend 500mil - 1 bill ISK.
I'm not saying we should totally diminish everything that sets Dust apart, but the payouts suck. If you go 15-5 in ADV gear with 3000WP and end up >>>>>profiting<<<<<< less than the dude who AFK'd that is a problem.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.03 13:37:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:
I'd rather see people start with 10 mil SP and have a system that rewards participation than what we currently see.
I'd rather see everyone able to run proto 24/7 than see us continue pretending there will ever be a player market. Because of passive PC ISK/salaries we see the top 1-5% of Dust able to run proto non stop. Even if it's not sustainable forever it would take years for a 4-5 KDR individual to spend 500mil - 1 bill ISK.
I'm not saying we should totally diminish everything that sets Dust apart, but the payouts suck. If you go 15-5 in ADV gear with 3000WP and end up >>>>>profiting<<<<<< less than the dude who AFK'd that is a problem.
You are asking for things that would diminish what little cash influx CCP does see from this game. CCP relies on the handicapping of younger players to impress upon them the need for Aurum and boosters. That restriction is by design. It will not change, and it will be the biggest roadbloack to the game being viable as a standalone product. In Eve you can overcome superiour SP players through zerging, as anyone who has been caught by a frig gang in a BS can attest. In a fixed player count lobby shooter that doesn't work, but CCP built their incorrect model around their archaic ideas from Eve. CCP wants new players to be gimped in order to sell them crap. Always keep that in the fore of your mind when trying to figure out how to fix the NPE. Did you think that repetitive tripe in the old warbage was just there as a pleasant voice in the background? Perhaps, but I think they are just focused on getting cash in the wrong areas. Make the FW boosters a .5x instead of .25 and provide a way to sell LP or to sell LP gear to the NPC stations we reside in.
Some tweets to FW could lead to the most cash flow coming in that they've ever had IMO. The game should refocus on FW.
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