Yay you cater to farmers and solve none of the core issues wrong with FW.

Currently the only bonuses to FW are Specialist weapons, certain equipment, and the ability to use Weapons/Equipment/Suits etc...

This is nice but could use some expansion.


Remove the ISK from the cost of LP items, the ISK sink is supposed to occur during battle not through the buying of gear.

Add an LP bonus to the top three spots this offers incentives to use better gear which helps to get rid of problems such as people using BPO's and not sinking in ISK because typically better gear=better performance.

Reduce the amount of LP to an insanely low amount or 0 for those under 250 wp this is an insanely easy requirement to hit and discourages AFK farming.

Add more Weapons/Suits/Equipment etc... that are better than their prototype counter parts. This can be easily done with most modules/suits etc... the PG/CPU reductions while useful is stale on most other gear and I really want to discourage the Idea of full proto/complex suits if it costs a metric F*** ton of LP I'm more OK with it though. I will provide a few examples

Shield extenders with a smaller or no reduction to shield depleted recharge delay, armor plates with less of a speed penalty. Suits with one or more of the following: Slight PG/CPU increase, +1% bonus to a suits racial bonus, an a addition secondary bonus Ex. a PE bonus to min logi, not as big as main bonus.

Complete the loyalty store with a full compliment of LP gear for all the gear that exists in game.

Host an FW event that provides an incentive to get into FW

-1 for the WP requirement.

Screwing over noobs is the quickest way to get them to leave.

Just imagine,not in a big corp...so they're poor...you force them to lose suits AND get deprived of any rewards for their efforts?

All just because they ran into a squad of FA (ab)using (OP) scouts with 500 armor or shields running 8m/s getting OHKs with SGs and (now OP) NKs.

Sure sounds fair to me.

I'll update this as more ideas fly into my head.

Thoughts anyone?

Currently the only bonuses to FW are Specialist weapons, certain equipment, and the ability to use Weapons/Equipment/Suits etc...

This is nice but could use some expansion.


Remove the ISK from the cost of LP items, the ISK sink is supposed to occur during battle not through the buying of gear.

Add an LP bonus to the top three spots this offers incentives to use better gear which helps to get rid of problems such as people using BPO's and not sinking in ISK because typically better gear=better performance.

Reduce the amount of LP to an insanely low amount or 0 for those under 250 wp this is an insanely easy requirement to hit and discourages AFK farming.

Add more Weapons/Suits/Equipment etc... that are better than their prototype counter parts. This can be easily done with most modules/suits etc... the PG/CPU reductions while useful is stale on most other gear and I really want to discourage the Idea of full proto/complex suits if it costs a metric F*** ton of LP I'm more OK with it though. I will provide a few examples

Shield extenders with a smaller or no reduction to shield depleted recharge delay, armor plates with less of a speed penalty. Suits with one or more of the following: Slight PG/CPU increase, +1% bonus to a suits racial bonus, an a addition secondary bonus Ex. a PE bonus to min logi, not as big as main bonus.

Complete the loyalty store with a full compliment of LP gear for all the gear that exists in game.

Host an FW event that provides an incentive to get into FW.

I'll update this as more ideas fly into my head.

Thoughts anyone?

-1 for the wp requirement

Screwing over noobs is the fastest way to get them to leave.

It's not their fault they ran into a squad of FA (ab)using scouts with 500 shields or armor running at 8m/s OHKing with SGs and (now op) NKs.

Yay you cater to farmers and solve none of the core issues wrong with FW.

-1 for the wp requirement

Screwing over noobs is the fastest way to get them to leave.

It's not their fault they ran into a squad of FA (ab)using scouts with 500 shields or armor running at 8m/s OHKing with SGs and (now op) NKs.

Sure seems fair doesn't it? especially after they lose their suits in that predetermined fight.

So far your idea would seem fair,except the part about 'higher level gear'.
More lp as well as a isk removal would make those with huge corps have an overwhelming advantage seeing as their corp would cover the costs.

All your suggestions about lp would only favor players like yourself,with already huge wallets.

+1 to the special gear though

Currently the only bonuses to FW are Specialist weapons, certain equipment, and the ability to use Weapons/Equipment/Suits etc...

This is nice but could use some expansion.


Remove the ISK from the cost of LP items, the ISK sink is supposed to occur during battle not through the buying of gear.

Add an LP bonus to the top three spots this offers incentives to use better gear which helps to get rid of problems such as people using BPO's and not sinking in ISK because typically better gear=better performance.

Reduce the amount of LP to an insanely low amount or 0 for those under 250 wp this is an insanely easy requirement to hit and discourages AFK farming.

Add more Weapons/Suits/Equipment etc... that are better than their prototype counter parts. This can be easily done with most modules/suits etc... the PG/CPU reductions while useful is stale on most other gear and I really want to discourage the Idea of full proto/complex suits if it costs a metric F*** ton of LP I'm more OK with it though. I will provide a few examples

Shield extenders with a smaller or no reduction to shield depleted recharge delay, armor plates with less of a speed penalty. Suits with one or more of the following: Slight PG/CPU increase, +1% bonus to a suits racial bonus, an a addition secondary bonus Ex. a PE bonus to min logi, not as big as main bonus.

Complete the loyalty store with a full compliment of LP gear for all the gear that exists in game.

Host an FW event that provides an incentive to get into FW.

I'll update this as more ideas fly into my head.

Thoughts anyone?

oh shut up you don't even play dust

Please elaborate.

All your model has done is increase the player base...... and adds content to be earnt in game. So what you get is periodic cycles of players farming one FW for X content for an hour before moving on to another.

But it does not solve core issues.

Does not encourage loyalty, no loyalty system at all was mentioned. Players should be encouraged to stick with single factions for extended periods of time and become invested in their successes and failures.

Does not mention specified deployments. Specific planets, systems, regions. Players need to be able to target specific locations. Currently FW means very little to the average EVE pilots......and it could mean so much more. Dust modifiers alter the system wide requirements for victory points allows Dusters to drop contestation rates by 10% or buffer them by 10%..... this could mean so much to EVE players if they know Dusters are round the clock defending their systems alongside them or attacking systems to make the invasion easier.

Does not provide flexible features for corporate use making FW more practical. Its currently an ISK sink..... it should not be. It should be possible to make profit from FW Dust side like I do EVE side. Not to mention that FW systems tend to provide the following modifications/ bonuses.

- Owning an FW system allows you to base of our that system, not owning mean you must dock/base elsewhere. A system is like a fortress.
- Owning an FW system currently makes Industry, Clone replacements, etc cheapers. A system is economically valuable
- Donating LP to a Systems makes it harder for the enemy to take and increases LP pay outs for everyone plexing in the system as well as increasing T status. Thus selfless donation and investment in the Miltia benefits everyone and encourages co-operating between militia groups while paying back out in LP 2-3x over.

As I see it your system would fundamentally place the emphasis on simply farming for what you want and not sticking around with your chosen faction.

true is right, there are so many things that could and should be done with fw, we need the ability to choose the systems and districts we want to defend and attack above all other things, however i do like your idea of no lp for any participant that cant score 250 wp. we need sandbox districts we can populate at will each individual dust player should have to buy their own personal stock of clones and base from where the clones reside. and corporations that do fw should have to sign up like eve pilots do, no flip floping sides every other battle