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Alena Ventrallis
Vengeance Unbound
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.08.27 21:53:00 -
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My question is, is something like this possible in a hotfix? Technically, there are no new assets being made, it's simply switching bonuses from one type of suit to another. The argument has been made before to make commandos into light suits (I personally agree with them) but I wonder what the extent of hotfixes is. What exactly is the limit of hotfixing, assuming we only use in game assets?
Rest in peace, oh Captain, my Captain.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
2342
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Posted - 2014.08.27 21:55:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:My question is, is something like this possible in a hotfix? Technically, there are no new assets being made, it's simply switching bonuses from one type of suit to another. The argument has been made before to make commandos into light suits (I personally agree with them) but I wonder what the extent of hotfixes is. What exactly is the limit of hotfixing, assuming we only use in game assets?
Screw that. I like my commando suits where they are, thanks.
Bugger off with your light LOLmando talk. |
Alena Ventrallis
Vengeance Unbound
Dark Taboo
1606
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Posted - 2014.08.27 21:58:00 -
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Someone can't read very well.
Rest in peace, oh Captain, my Captain.
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DarthMcFizzle
MOOSE-KNUCKLEz CLAN
86
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Posted - 2014.08.27 22:05:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:My question is, is something like this possible in a hotfix? Technically, there are no new assets being made, it's simply switching bonuses from one type of suit to another. The argument has been made before to make commandos into light suits (I personally agree with them) but I wonder what the extent of hotfixes is. What exactly is the limit of hotfixing, assuming we only use in game assets?
Don't think i've heard of this, could you give me a TL;DR of it? |
Alena Ventrallis
Vengeance Unbound
Dark Taboo
1607
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Posted - 2014.08.27 22:07:00 -
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DarthMcFizzle wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:My question is, is something like this possible in a hotfix? Technically, there are no new assets being made, it's simply switching bonuses from one type of suit to another. The argument has been made before to make commandos into light suits (I personally agree with them) but I wonder what the extent of hotfixes is. What exactly is the limit of hotfixing, assuming we only use in game assets? Don't think i've heard of this, could you give me a TL;DR of it?
tl;dr on my question: what is the limit of changes with hotfixes.
tl;dr on commandos as lights: some people think commandos would be better as light suits, being sneaky (though not as much as scouts) and quicker than mediums, since real life commandos are about stealth and sabotage.
Rest in peace, oh Captain, my Captain.
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Death Shadow117
New Age Empire.
General Tso's Alliance
324
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Posted - 2014.08.27 22:11:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:My question is, is something like this possible in a hotfix? Technically, there are no new assets being made, it's simply switching bonuses from one type of suit to another. The argument has been made before to make commandos into light suits (I personally agree with them) but I wonder what the extent of hotfixes is. What exactly is the limit of hotfixing, assuming we only use in game assets?
Light suits? Ive heard people say it should be a mediun suit but ive never heard light suits.
Why?
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Alena Ventrallis
Vengeance Unbound
Dark Taboo
1607
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Posted - 2014.08.27 22:13:00 -
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Death Shadow117 wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:My question is, is something like this possible in a hotfix? Technically, there are no new assets being made, it's simply switching bonuses from one type of suit to another. The argument has been made before to make commandos into light suits (I personally agree with them) but I wonder what the extent of hotfixes is. What exactly is the limit of hotfixing, assuming we only use in game assets? Light suits? Ive heard people say it should be a mediun suit but ive never heard light suits.
I've never heard of mediums, always light suits.
Rest in peace, oh Captain, my Captain.
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
526
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Posted - 2014.08.27 22:28:00 -
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Right now Commandos act as overwatch, IE find a cliff or roof somewhere and rain down support or hang back a little and help with suppression. A light suit would just die too fast filling these roles, the whole idea of the commando is that it can take heavy punishment, but it can't repair/recharge very quickly so it's generally cover based. We already have a stealthy light suit as the OP has stated, called a scout, we don't need to take a rather unique suit layout and overlap it onto an existing suit. Commandos would in effect just encourage more light assaults as they inherently would be worse for Ewar.
That said, I would like to see pilots come into existence as the second light suit option. I like the idea that was suggested of making pilots carry only a sidearm, one equipment, and minimal mods while being the only suits that can operate dropships and HAVs. Also give the pilot skill level small class bonuses to fitting vehicles, while giving the racial bonuses to fitting certain vehicles. For example Gallente pilot bonus to madrugar, Caldari pilot bonus to gunnlogi, Amarr bonus to Incubus, and Minmitar bonus to pythons, something like that. The Pilot suit could also go through tiericide only supplying the basic level of the suit and maybe if adv and proto tanks/dropships ever reappear making the tanks/dropships require the higher tiered suits to operate them. As in, if you want to operate an adv tier HAV/dropship you would have to use an adv pilot suit.
Edit: As to why the pilot would add fitting bonuses and be required to operate the HAV/Dropship lore wise, it could be argued that the systems used within the vehicles are too complicated without a suit specially designed to integrate the pilot with the HAV/Dropship while with LAVs they operate like standard vehicles with simple manual controls. The fitting bonuses would come with the fact that the suit can optimize the efficiency of the vehicles PG/CPU. |
Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1926
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Posted - 2014.08.27 22:38:00 -
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I don't doubt they could. They've already shown they can change slots and bonuses, I'm sure it's possible.
Also, I want logistics to be heavy frames (similar to the commando in terms of speed and agility though). |
TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
526
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Posted - 2014.08.27 22:42:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:I don't doubt they could. They've already shown they can change slots and bonuses, I'm sure it's possible.
Also, I want logistics to be heavy frames (similar to the commando in terms of speed and agility though).
Then we would run into the issue of overloading certain categories, because you would then have only one medium suit and 3 heavy suits or 2 heavy suits and 2 light suits. I still think the pilot is the best option as it will balance out suit variety. Commandos can't take a lot of punishment on the frontline because of their large frame with a sub par e/hp trade off, so this change would gimp logi medics.
Frame size makes a large difference in survivability in higher levels of play. That's why people still run scout assault suits even though assaults tend to have 400+ more e/hp than the scout. |
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Atiim
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Posted - 2014.08.27 22:47:00 -
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May you link and quote the players saying that Commandos should become Light Frames?
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sabre prime
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
381
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Posted - 2014.08.27 23:56:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:Death Shadow117 wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:My question is, is something like this possible in a hotfix? Technically, there are no new assets being made, it's simply switching bonuses from one type of suit to another. The argument has been made before to make commandos into light suits (I personally agree with them) but I wonder what the extent of hotfixes is. What exactly is the limit of hotfixing, assuming we only use in game assets? Light suits? Ive heard people say it should be a mediun suit but ive never heard light suits. I've never heard of mediums, always light suits.
No, I think you are mistaken. I too have heard of commandos switching to medium suits. I've never seen discussions of commandos as light suits. Imagine the qq'ing if commandos were made into light suits. LOL.
Wikipedia gives the definition of commando as: "Commando is a soldier or operative of an elite light infantry or special operations force often specializing in amphibious landings, parachuting or abseiling.
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In the militaries and governments of most countries, commandos are distinctive in that they specialize in assault on unconventional high-value targets.GÇ£
Although the word "light" is used in the description, in terms of their roles I sustained combat and "assault" operations I think the medium suit is closer in reality.
Desperate attempt to get BPOs
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Alena Ventrallis
Vengeance Unbound
Dark Taboo
1611
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Posted - 2014.08.28 00:06:00 -
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Perhaps I am wrong on that. In any case, the main question I wanted answered is: is such a change possible?
Rest in peace, oh Captain, my Captain.
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Alena Ventrallis
Vengeance Unbound
Dark Taboo
1611
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Posted - 2014.08.28 00:12:00 -
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Atiim, once I am home at my computer I will search for them.
Rest in peace, oh Captain, my Captain.
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Tectonic Fusion
2070
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Posted - 2014.08.28 00:34:00 -
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I think there should be a scout version of the commando but. It has 3 sidearms. The primary is dual wielding sidearms lol
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Scheneighnay McBob
Cult of Gasai
5847
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Posted - 2014.08.28 00:44:00 -
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I've heard people asking for light suits with heavy weapons, but never light commandos
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings
Proficiency V.
1052
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Posted - 2014.08.28 00:47:00 -
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was in a squad with uniqueID this morning
we were on that ****** dom map with the giant tower
had my HMG out and really wanted a forge gun instead when i saw a dropship
i thought out loud "they should have a suit with two heavy weapon slots. but it could be a light suit"
Eternal Beings - #76 in All Time WP - #90 in All Time Kills. Member since day one, 10 months ago.
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Mike De Luca
STOP TRYING TO RECRUIT ME
278
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Posted - 2014.08.28 01:03:00 -
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As many times as I've seen "lights/scouts shouldn't have a light weapon slot!', I doubt that'd go over well lol
what i think of when charging fg
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Billy Jr
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.08.28 01:35:00 -
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Nobody going to mention the Black Eagle scout suit? This is already a thing. You just can't buy them. |
howard sanchez
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Posted - 2014.08.28 01:42:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:was in a squad with uniqueID this morning
we were on that ****** dom map with the giant tower
had my HMG out and really wanted a forge gun instead when i saw a dropship
i thought out loud "they should have a suit with two heavy weapon slots. but it could be a light suit"
That was probably gonna be for the mech suits...what were they callin those?
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