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True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 13074	Posted - 2014.08.27 20:59:00 - [1] - Quote You know this as well as I do. Where do I stack my Heat Sink II's? Low Slots Where do I stack my (if I used them) Gyrostabilisers? Low Slots Do those modules count as active? No. "We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 102	Posted - 2014.08.27 22:28:00 - [2] - Quote No no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
ZDub 303 Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback 3229	Posted - 2014.08.27 23:44:00 - [3] - Quote And move Kinetic Catalyzers to high slots. How do you sprint in EVE? With Microwarpdrives and Afterburners. Where do those go? Mid Slots. B C R U are letters, not words - Wierd Al Yankovich
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 13082	Posted - 2014.08.28 00:00:00 - [4] - Quote Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote: No Yup. Too bad for us Amarr no more 1000+EHP stacking. "We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
Auris Lionesse Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 937	Posted - 2014.08.28 00:21:00 - [5] - Quote Yeah this has been known for a long time, but apparently when they were making the game they had never played eve online because shanghai got alot of stuff blatantly wrong from where mods go to how weapons are divided among the races and even suit roles. gal should get dps bonuses to all hybrid weapons including rails and caldari should get range bonuses to all hybrid weapons from large blasters to shotguns. and the repair tool should be for gallente and amarr not minmatar. gal/amarr logi ships get remote armor repair bonuses. min and caldari get shields. cardiac regulators and kinetic catalysers both need to be high slot and damage mods should have always been low. thats just how it is. this is new eden afterall. Don't vote for iron wolf saber. Vote for someone who will help the community i.e. anyone else.
Rusty Shallows Caldari State 2032	Posted - 2014.08.28 00:25:00 - [6] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: And move Kinetic Catalyzers to high slots. snip My Minja ALT says, "Yes, please, and thank you." I have a lot of respect for Classic Logis. New Eden could use more Healers. Forums > Game: Biggest understatement ever
ZDub 303 Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback 3230	Posted - 2014.08.28 00:56:00 - [7] - Quote Auris Lionesse wrote: Yeah this has been known for a long time, but apparently when they were making the game they had never played eve online because shanghai got alot of stuff blatantly wrong from where mods go to how weapons are divided among the races and even suit roles. gal should get dps bonuses to all hybrid weapons including rails and caldari should get range bonuses to all hybrid weapons from large blasters to shotguns. and the repair tool should be for gallente and amarr not minmatar. gal/amarr logi ships get remote armor repair bonuses. min and caldari get shields. cardiac regulators and kinetic catalysers both need to be high slot and damage mods should have always been low. thats just how it is. this is new eden afterall. I guess we can only hope that they understand this for Legion, and get it right the first time. B C R U are letters, not words - Wierd Al Yankovich
Auris Lionesse Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 939	Posted - 2014.08.28 01:01:00 - [8] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Auris Lionesse wrote: Yeah this has been known for a long time, but apparently when they were making the game they had never played eve online because shanghai got alot of stuff blatantly wrong from where mods go to how weapons are divided among the races and even suit roles. gal should get dps bonuses to all hybrid weapons including rails and caldari should get range bonuses to all hybrid weapons from large blasters to shotguns. and the repair tool should be for gallente and amarr not minmatar. gal/amarr logi ships get remote armor repair bonuses. min and caldari get shields. cardiac regulators and kinetic catalysers both need to be high slot and damage mods should have always been low. thats just how it is. this is new eden afterall. I guess we can only hope that they understand this for Legion, and get it right the first time. hope is a word im no longer familiar with lol. Don't vote for iron wolf saber. Vote for someone who will help the community i.e. anyone else.
ladwar SHAKING BABIES FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE 2076	Posted - 2014.08.28 02:23:00 - [9] - Quote Auris Lionesse wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: Auris Lionesse wrote: Yeah this has been known for a long time, but apparently when they were making the game they had never played eve online because shanghai got alot of stuff blatantly wrong from where mods go to how weapons are divided among the races and even suit roles. gal should get dps bonuses to all hybrid weapons including rails and caldari should get range bonuses to all hybrid weapons from large blasters to shotguns. and the repair tool should be for gallente and amarr not minmatar. gal/amarr logi ships get remote armor repair bonuses. min and caldari get shields. cardiac regulators and kinetic catalysers both need to be high slot and damage mods should have always been low. thats just how it is. this is new eden afterall. I guess we can only hope that they understand this for Legion, and get it right the first time. hope is a word im no longer familiar with lol. First love the sig... IWS is a bane 4 dust in everyway. second i agree with the first post, there are some clearly bad ideas that we must suffer to this day and ccp refuses to change and not 4 a balance or any actual game related reason, its alll on the devs "abilities". Really. Some day they might get it. hopefully on a platform they know and are used to legions problems wont be carried over from dust. I wont be there. Pr of dust has killed my trust in them Level 2 Forum Warrior, bitter vet. I shall smite Thy Trolls with numbers and truth doing reviews in free time, want 1?
Soulja Ghostface MCDUSTDONALDS Top Men. 2665	Posted - 2014.08.28 03:17:00 - [10] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote: No Yup. Too bad for us Amarr no more 1000+EHP stacking. Shield is already better than armor. Damage mods in the high slots keep them in check. We don't need speedy caldari and minmatar fits with damage mods and over 700 shield hp not counting armor Bring These Back i Tanker Turned Ads Pilot !

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 13085	Posted - 2014.08.28 03:21:00 - [11] - Quote Soulja Ghostface wrote: True Adamance wrote: Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote: No Yup. Too bad for us Amarr no more 1000+EHP stacking. Shield is already better than armor. Damage mods in the high slots keep them in check. We don't need speedy caldari and minmatar fits with damage mods and over 700 shield hp not counting armor You con't have as fast shield suits as I intend of Biotics including Kin Cats to be moved to Highs. Shields cannot be as fast, armour cannot dish out as much damage without sacrificing their primary tank. "We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
Soulja Ghostface MCDUSTDONALDS Top Men. 2665	Posted - 2014.08.28 03:25:00 - [12] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: True Adamance wrote: Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote: No Yup. Too bad for us Amarr no more 1000+EHP stacking. Shield is already better than armor. Damage mods in the high slots keep them in check. We don't need speedy caldari and minmatar fits with damage mods and over 700 shield hp not counting armor You con't have as fast shield suits as I intend of Biotics including Kin Cats to be moved to Highs. Shields cannot be as fast, armour cannot dish out as much damage without sacrificing their primary tank. Armor tankers will be absolute **** as to armor tank properly you need tons of plates. And even at 2 complex repairs our armor wont last over multiple engagements. And if we do add another repair for less armor we will have so low ehp that we have no advantage over shield tankers. They can still move fast as shield extenders do not slow the suit down while armor tanking slows the suit. Bring These Back i Tanker Turned Ads Pilot !
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 13086	Posted - 2014.08.28 03:38:00 - [13] - Quote Soulja Ghostface wrote: True Adamance wrote: Soulja Ghostface wrote: True Adamance wrote: Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote: No Yup. Too bad for us Amarr no more 1000+EHP stacking. Shield is already better than armor. Damage mods in the high slots keep them in check. We don't need speedy caldari and minmatar fits with damage mods and over 700 shield hp not counting armor You con't have as fast shield suits as I intend of Biotics including Kin Cats to be moved to Highs. Shields cannot be as fast, armour cannot dish out as much damage without sacrificing their primary tank. Armor tankers will be absolute **** as to armor tank properly you need tons of plates. And even at 2 complex repairs our armor wont last over multiple engagements. And if we do add another repair for less armor we will have so low ehp that we have no advantage over shield tankers. They can still move fast as shield extenders do not slow the suit down while armor tanking slows the suit. Projected Amarr Assault fit under Adamance Changes High Slots Cardiac Regulator Kinetic Catalyser Scan Precision Enhancer Low Slots Either..... 3x Complex Armour Plates 1x Complex Armour Repairer or...... 2x Complex Armour Plates 2x Complex Armour Repairer and.... 1x Damage Module (techinically Heat Sink II as I would love to further break down damage modules as well) Result- Less brick tank, slightly reduces damage output, moderate speed, solid armour tank That is certainly not a bad armour tank at all. "We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
ZDub 303 Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback 3234	Posted - 2014.08.28 03:58:00 - [14] - Quote Soulja Ghostface wrote: True Adamance wrote: Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote: No Yup. Too bad for us Amarr no more 1000+EHP stacking. Shield is already better than armor. Damage mods in the high slots keep them in check. We don't need speedy caldari and minmatar fits with damage mods and over 700 shield hp not counting armor Shields better than armor... Lol hilarious. I would respond but this is clearly a troll post. B C R U are letters, not words - Wierd Al Yankovich
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 7376	Posted - 2014.08.28 06:06:00 - [15] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Projected Amarr Assault fit under Adamance Changes High Slots Cardiac Regulator Kinetic Catalyser Scan Precision Enhancer Low Slots Either..... 3x Complex Armour Plates 1x Complex Armour Repairer or...... 2x Complex Armour Plates 2x Complex Armour Repairer and.... 1x Damage Module (techinically Heat Sink II as I would love to further break down damage modules as well) Result- Less brick tank, slightly reduces damage output, moderate speed, solid armour tank That is certainly not a bad armour tank at all. They are looking to discourage Armor Stacking in the near future (Delta or Echo) I don't know what that means or how it affects us but it's comming. Lucent Echelon -The Brightest Ranks Gallente Faction Warfare Chanel
Meee One Hello Kitty Logistics 1020	Posted - 2014.08.28 08:10:00 - [16] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: True Adamance wrote: Projected Amarr Assault fit under Adamance Changes High Slots Cardiac Regulator Kinetic Catalyser Scan Precision Enhancer Low Slots Either..... 3x Complex Armour Plates 1x Complex Armour Repairer or...... 2x Complex Armour Plates 2x Complex Armour Repairer and.... 1x Damage Module (techinically Heat Sink II as I would love to further break down damage modules as well) Result- Less brick tank, slightly reduces damage output, moderate speed, solid armour tank That is certainly not a bad armour tank at all. They are looking to discourage Armor Stacking in the near future (Delta or Echo) I don't know what that means or how it affects us but it's comming. Discourage armor stacking on shield suits i hope. CCP:"Sorry Amarr only 1 plate per fit,trololol" Was banned for fighting for logistics survival on 7/25/2014 02:11. Logistics will never be respected.
Killar-12 The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 3225	Posted - 2014.08.28 17:02:00 - [17] - Quote Two things, I need to talk to you, how is the best way to get into contact aside from Here? Also wonderful Idea... Member of a Dead Alliance and Dead Corp Coming through, still better than you FOTM corp hopping whores
Maken Tosch Dust University Ivy League 9170	Posted - 2014.08.28 17:18:00 - [18] - Quote True Adamance wrote: You know this as well as I do. Where do I stack my Heat Sink II's? Low Slots Where do I stack my (if I used them) Gyrostabilisers? Low Slots Do those modules count as active? No. I didn't read the replies to the OP so please forgive me if I repeated something here. Eve Online can be a good measure of how things should be in Dust or Legion, but as I stated a long time ago there are certain things that can't translate well into Dust. 1. Eve Online is balanced around its PC MMO design plus it works under a point-to-point principle in which everything is calculated for you. All you need to do is click on a target and you've hit your mark. All you need to worry about is keeping within range and watch out for high-transversals. This doesn't translate well into Dust because Dust uses FPS mechanics which are entirely different from that of a point-to-point MMO. 2. Fitting layouts in Dust do not match the fitting layouts in Eve. Suits have no mid slots. As a result, anything in Eve Online that fits on a mid slot won't have a slot available in Dust and would have to be put into a high or low slot. This affects gameplay balance to an extremely large degree. 3. In Eve Online your shots are not blocked by anything floating in space. That means that a station sitting between you and your target won't block any of your shots at all. In Dust, anything can block your shots. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
ZDub 303 Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback 3235	Posted - 2014.08.28 17:43:00 - [19] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: 2. Fitting layouts in Dust do not match the fitting layouts in Eve. Suits have no mid slots. As a result, anything in Eve Online that fits on a mid slot won't have a slot available in Dust and would have to be put into a high or low slot. This affects gameplay balance to an extremely large degree. Not really though. Its just different naming. High slots in EVE are essentially mimicked by weapon/equipment slots and mid slots in EVE are mimicked by high slots in Dust. Its just that they put items in weird places for no apparent reason... Although, it looks like they are changing it for Legion if the market screenshot is to be believed. The Plasma Rifle in the market was listed as a high slot item, so it looks like they may be going for a more 'eve-like' approach with high slots and hard points. B C R U are letters, not words - Wierd Al Yankovich
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9170	Posted - 2014.08.28 19:19:00 - [20] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: 2. Fitting layouts in Dust do not match the fitting layouts in Eve. Suits have no mid slots. As a result, anything in Eve Online that fits on a mid slot won't have a slot available in Dust and would have to be put into a high or low slot. This affects gameplay balance to an extremely large degree. Not really though. Its just different naming. High slots in EVE are essentially mimicked by weapon/equipment slots and mid slots in EVE are mimicked by high slots in Dust. Its just that they put items in weird places for no apparent reason... Although, it looks like they are changing it for Legion if the market screenshot is to be believed. The Plasma Rifle in the market was listed as a high slot item, so it looks like they may be going for a more 'eve-like' approach with high slots and hard points. In regards to Dust, if damage mods are to be reassigned to the low-slots, then the speed mods and hacking mods need to be reassigned to the mid-slots just like in Eve Online. Legion does grant that opportunity especially since it's a clean slate. I would welcome the slot reassignment for Legion in this case. But again, we're talking about a FPS game here in relation to an MMO game where the mechanics and gameplay are different. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.

ZDub 303 Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback 3237	Posted - 2014.08.28 19:30:00 - [21] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: But again, we're talking about a FPS game here in relation to an MMO game where the mechanics and gameplay are different. Definitely don't disagree on that, but a lot of the design philosophy is similar. They should have asked the guys in Reyk "Why did you put this slot here? etc" and i'm sure there are very valid reason, most of which would have applied to Dust. A lot of the problems with Dust is that its not more like EVE imo. Sure, you don't lock onto someone and orbit at 30m until someone dies but the fundamental design philosophy behind shields and armor and damage types etc all play in. Another big problem with Dust is missing racial parity. In terms of codebreakers and biotics in the high slots? I can agree with that completely. I think they would both be better suited in the highs. In regards to Dust vs Legion. Unfortunately I think Rattati already tried moving Codebreakers to high slots and said he couldn't due to technical limitations. So in regards to this happening in Dust at all its unlikely but hopefully posts like these influence Legion development... B C R U are letters, not words - Wierd Al Yankovich
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9170	Posted - 2014.08.28 19:41:00 - [22] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: But again, we're talking about a FPS game here in relation to an MMO game where the mechanics and gameplay are different. Definitely don't disagree on that, but a lot of the design philosophy is similar. They should have asked the guys in Reyk "Why did you put this slot here? etc" and i'm sure there are very valid reason, most of which would have applied to Dust. A lot of the problems with Dust is that its not more like EVE imo. Sure, you don't lock onto someone and orbit at 30m until someone dies but the fundamental design philosophy behind shields and armor and damage types etc all play in. Another big problem with Dust is missing racial parity. In terms of codebreakers and biotics in the high slots? I can agree with that completely. I think they would both be better suited in the highs. In regards to Dust vs Legion. Unfortunately I think Rattati already tried moving Codebreakers to high slots and said he couldn't due to technical limitations. So in regards to this happening in Dust at all its unlikely but hopefully posts like these influence Legion development... If technical limitations are what's keeping modules from being reassigned to different slots in Dust, then our only hope now is to see this happen in Legion. Again, Legion is a clean slate which grants us this opportunity. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 13094	Posted - 2014.08.28 19:55:00 - [23] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: True Adamance wrote: You know this as well as I do. Where do I stack my Heat Sink II's? Low Slots Where do I stack my (if I used them) Gyrostabilisers? Low Slots Do those modules count as active? No. I didn't read the replies to the OP so please forgive me if I repeated something here. Eve Online can be a good measure of how things should be in Dust or Legion, but as I stated a long time ago there are certain things that can't translate well into Dust. 1. Eve Online is balanced around its PC MMO design plus it works under a point-to-point principle in which everything is calculated for you. All you need to do is click on a target and you've hit your mark. All you need to worry about is keeping within range and watch out for high-transversals. This doesn't translate well into Dust because Dust uses FPS mechanics which are entirely different from that of a point-to-point MMO. 2. Fitting layouts in Dust do not match the fitting layouts in Eve. Suits have no mid slots. As a result, anything in Eve Online that fits on a mid slot won't have a slot available in Dust and would have to be put into a high or low slot. This affects gameplay balance to an extremely large degree. 3. In Eve Online your shots are not blocked by anything floating in space. That means that a station sitting between you and your target won't block any of your shots at all. In Dust, anything can block your shots. Everything is relative. 1.) Wow you simplified EVE mechanics and tried to make Dust sound more complex than it actually is...... However given the current state of things EVE is the more successful part of the franchise and the parent game. You either want this game to be set in New Eden, where specific tenets from EVE will and must apply to Dust 514 or you don't. 2.) Suits do have midslots, they are called High's but they are fundamentally the same thing. Dust 514's high slots are its weapon and equipment slots. 3.)You most certainly are blocked by things in space..... have you ever been jumped in an asteroid field while ratting? I fail to see how this should affect modules and slot allocation. "We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
Auris Lionesse Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 951	Posted - 2014.08.28 23:09:00 - [24] - Quote ladwar wrote: Auris Lionesse wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: Auris Lionesse wrote: Yeah this has been known for a long time, but apparently when they were making the game they had never played eve online because shanghai got alot of stuff blatantly wrong from where mods go to how weapons are divided among the races and even suit roles. gal should get dps bonuses to all hybrid weapons including rails and caldari should get range bonuses to all hybrid weapons from large blasters to shotguns. and the repair tool should be for gallente and amarr not minmatar. gal/amarr logi ships get remote armor repair bonuses. min and caldari get shields. cardiac regulators and kinetic catalysers both need to be high slot and damage mods should have always been low. thats just how it is. this is new eden afterall. I guess we can only hope that they understand this for Legion, and get it right the first time. hope is a word im no longer familiar with lol. First love the sig... IWS is a bane 4 dust in everyway. second i agree with the first post, there are some clearly bad ideas that we must suffer to this day and ccp refuses to change and not 4 a balance or any actual game related reason, its alll on the devs "abilities". Really. Some day they might get it. hopefully on a platform they know and are used to legions problems wont be carried over from dust. I wont be there. Pr of dust has killed my trust in them agreed, if it was up to me he'd be cast out and have any mention of him stricken from the universe of eve. complete excommunication along with any other remnants of cpm0. Theres a clear forumla in eve, theres an established order that has been refined over the better part of the decade. There is no excuse for the new people in shanghai to have come in and complete try to build their own system that completely disregards established facts within the eve universe. the repair tools for example. armor is amarr and gallente terrirtory. theres absolutely no reason for a minmatar logi to have a monopoly on the repair tool when its not part of theyre ...theme or style. i guess for lack of a better. its just inherently wrong given everything we know about new eden. they can claim well theres no shield repair tool all they want. thats a lazy copout because they could have put in a shield repair tool as well. yet there is none. you cant justify a poor game mechanic with an even poorer decision as the reason. it simply comes down to the fact that shanghai had no idea what they were doing at the time or possibly that they still dont. Don't vote for iron wolf saber. Vote for someone who will help the community i.e. anyone else.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 13098	Posted - 2014.08.28 23:51:00 - [25] - Quote Auris Lionesse wrote: ladwar wrote: Auris Lionesse wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: Auris Lionesse wrote: Yeah this has been known for a long time, but apparently when they were making the game they had never played eve online because shanghai got alot of stuff blatantly wrong from where mods go to how weapons are divided among the races and even suit roles. gal should get dps bonuses to all hybrid weapons including rails and caldari should get range bonuses to all hybrid weapons from large blasters to shotguns. and the repair tool should be for gallente and amarr not minmatar. gal/amarr logi ships get remote armor repair bonuses. min and caldari get shields. cardiac regulators and kinetic catalysers both need to be high slot and damage mods should have always been low. thats just how it is. this is new eden afterall. I guess we can only hope that they understand this for Legion, and get it right the first time. hope is a word im no longer familiar with lol. First love the sig... IWS is a bane 4 dust in everyway. second i agree with the first post, there are some clearly bad ideas that we must suffer to this day and ccp refuses to change and not 4 a balance or any actual game related reason, its alll on the devs "abilities". Really. Some day they might get it. hopefully on a platform they know and are used to legions problems wont be carried over from dust. I wont be there. Pr of dust has killed my trust in them agreed, if it was up to me he'd be cast out and have any mention of him stricken from the universe of eve. complete excommunication along with any other remnants of cpm0. Theres a clear forumla in eve, theres an established order that has been refined over the better part of the decade. There is no excuse for the new people in shanghai to have come in and complete try to build their own system that completely disregards established facts within the eve universe. the repair tools for example. armor is amarr and gallente terrirtory. theres absolutely no reason for a minmatar logi to have a monopoly on the repair tool when its not part of theyre ...theme or style. i guess for lack of a better. its just inherently wrong given everything we know about new eden. they can claim well theres no shield repair tool all they want. thats a lazy copout because they could have put in a shield repair tool as well. yet there is none. you cant justify a poor game mechanic with an even poorer decision as the reason. it simply comes down to the fact that shanghai had no idea what they were doing at the time or possibly that they still dont. Hmmm well Min ships can be tough armour tanks to crack open...... "We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
ladwar SHAKING BABIES FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE 2079	Posted - 2014.08.29 00:12:00 - [26] - Quote Auris Lionesse wrote: ladwar wrote: Auris Lionesse wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: Auris Lionesse wrote: Yeah this has been known for a long time, but apparently when they were making the game they had never played eve online because shanghai got alot of stuff blatantly wrong from where mods go to how weapons are divided among the races and even suit roles. gal should get dps bonuses to all hybrid weapons including rails and caldari should get range bonuses to all hybrid weapons from large blasters to shotguns. and the repair tool should be for gallente and amarr not minmatar. gal/amarr logi ships get remote armor repair bonuses. min and caldari get shields. cardiac regulators and kinetic catalysers both need to be high slot and damage mods should have always been low. thats just how it is. this is new eden afterall. I guess we can only hope that they understand this for Legion, and get it right the first time. hope is a word im no longer familiar with lol. First love the sig... IWS is a bane 4 dust in everyway. second i agree with the first post, there are some clearly bad ideas that we must suffer to this day and ccp refuses to change and not 4 a balance or any actual game related reason, its alll on the devs "abilities". Really. Some day they might get it. hopefully on a platform they know and are used to legions problems wont be carried over from dust. I wont be there. Pr of dust has killed my trust in them agreed, if it was up to me he'd be cast out and have any mention of him stricken from the universe of eve. complete excommunication along with any other remnants of cpm0. Theres a clear forumla in eve, theres an established order that has been refined over the better part of the decade. There is no excuse for the new people in shanghai to have come in and complete try to build their own system that completely disregards established facts within the eve universe. the repair tools for example. armor is amarr and gallente terrirtory. theres absolutely no reason for a minmatar logi to have a monopoly on the repair tool when its not part of theyre ...theme or style. i guess for lack of a better. its just inherently wrong given everything we know about new eden. they can claim well theres no shield repair tool all they want. thats a lazy copout because they could have put in a shield repair tool as well. yet there is none. you cant justify a poor game mechanic with an even poorer decision as the reason. it simply comes down to the fact that shanghai had no idea what they were doing at the time or possibly that they still dont. Your correct. They know how to do it. The horribly mechanics on the LLAVs proves they can they just chose not to. Just like the modules. I remember a certain module 4 damage 4 melee being a low slot while the rest were high(and if i messed that up it still works out the same). They just refuse to fix their own game. Dust will always be a beta and we know its 4 legion now. I wonder how messed up it'll be when it "releases". Level 2 Forum Warrior, bitter vet. I shall smite Thy Trolls with numbers and truth doing reviews in free time, want 1?


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