DUST Search - Is hit detection a " Hard Fix " ???

RayRay James wrote:

Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:

David Mustane wrote:

its not the game, people are clearly cheating in this game. CCP would fix the issue if there was one, but according to them there is nothing wrong, so why else would the red team not take damage?

Lag is the answer, but then why oh why doesn't "lag" not effect them? The damage they deal hits me no issues, and yet the red team seems impervious.

Cheaters, cheating. That is the issue here.

David you just summed it up and you make it sound so simple but I still just don't understand it .

You have people that will swear up and down that there is nothing going on ... as a result of your example ( Which I agree with . ) and tell you that your having the problem because their not experiencing the same thing and it must be you .

Am I to assume that these re the same type of people who are exploiting this same practice , you know .. the one's who can spam SR rounds faster than a pro using a CR ?

I'm just so confused and I agree with you and I'm thankful that you make it sound so simple so that others could understand ... but I'm still confused .

I guess I should just follow my mind and be like those who are likeminded , such as yourself and follow that answer and just not let it get to me when that crap happens .

I work dealing with customers who swear up and down something wrong and it's my fault, just like your doing with CCP.

98% of the time, it's the user not the technology.

If you can recreate the issues, get video of it. Post it here and send it to CCP.

Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .


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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1121	Posted - 2014.08.27 20:19:00 - [1] - Quote I would just like to know so the next time I'm in my ADS and I see players on the roof top and I'm hovering , clearly shooting the opponents with my Particle Accelerator ... to the point where they see themselves that hit detection is off and they stand right in front of me while I unload full clips on them with no result , then I can and would understand that ... " Hey this must be a server side fix or whatever CCP mentioned that they were not performing and I can not get confused by the results ." Shooting with sniper rifles and seeing all red and lined up , shoot and no damage registering from multiple shots while the opponent stands still . It's like , when players see for themselves that the hit detection is off they stand right there in front of you because they know that nothing favorable will come out of the exchange for you and that's smart I guess but shows how much of a problem that this is and it's been one for sometime now . I just would like to understand if it's something that's in the cards as something that " Can Not Be Fixed " , or is this something that will get the attention that's needed in a later patch . It just gets to be so frustrating at times . Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1121	Posted - 2014.08.27 23:57:00 - [2] - Quote David Mustane wrote: its not the game, people are clearly cheating in this game. CCP would fix the issue if there was one, but according to them there is nothing wrong, so why else would the red team not take damage? Lag is the answer, but then why oh why doesn't "lag" not effect them? The damage they deal hits me no issues, and yet the red team seems impervious. Cheaters, cheating. That is the issue here. David you just summed it up and you make it sound so simple but I still just don't understand it . You have people that will swear up and down that there is nothing going on ... as a result of your example ( Which I agree with . ) and tell you that your having the problem because their not experiencing the same thing and it must be you . Am I to assume that these re the same type of people who are exploiting this same practice , you know .. the one's who can spam SR rounds faster than a pro using a CR ? I'm just so confused and I agree with you and I'm thankful that you make it sound so simple so that others could understand ... but I'm still confused . I guess I should just follow my mind and be like those who are likeminded , such as yourself and follow that answer and just not let it get to me when that crap happens . Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1122	Posted - 2014.08.28 12:37:00 - [3] - Quote Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: i dont get how people think their gun dosnt hit what u shot at asde from a forge gun or rail turret from time to time, my buttlet alwayz hit what i shoot every time except when i use those two fore-mentioned weapons. may u guys just lag but i dont see any problem with hit detection ever, and yeah you cant lag switch in this game. Yeah it does happen with forges too much and where there is no splash damage registering , the only time the kill will register is if you hit the target dead center . The people that don't experience it well I'm glad for you , maybe it has something to do with the region that the server is administering or certain people being played because that is talked about in the forum on several occasions . I don't know what the conditions are but if multiple people are having similar experiences then it must be something to it and not just some random event happening . More than three people means that their are witnesses to this happening and it shouldn't be dismissed lightly even though it's not experienced by the " general public " continually . I wouldn't lie , what would I get from it ..??.. and I'm not naming names or accusing anyone but it does happen and not just to me and not just with forge gun usage . Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1122	Posted - 2014.08.28 12:50:00 - [4] - Quote Thurak1 wrote: Yep and this is the kind of crap that is going to happen to legion. Its far less likely on a console system like the playstation with how the firmware is locked down. Yes this will be a known problem that people should be wondering now , " How this will be dealt with . " .. seeing as how this will be kind of unavoidable . PC is the stomping grounds for this type of behavior but I guess since they don't see it rampant in EVE game play ( I guess it isn't ) but legion will be a different game all together as far as mechanics between the two , so it might not be an issue until it happens . It's should be talked about and thought over though while it's early and not waiting until it becomes an issue . Hell , hit detection is an issue with this game and I was just wondering why but once ported to the PC this game and that experience will reach new heights . I'm just wondering why it is an issue ( in Dust ) if it's a known problem and what , if anything could be done about it . Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1133	Posted - 2014.08.29 17:21:00 - [5] - Quote RayRay James wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: David Mustane wrote: its not the game, people are clearly cheating in this game. CCP would fix the issue if there was one, but according to them there is nothing wrong, so why else would the red team not take damage? Lag is the answer, but then why oh why doesn't "lag" not effect them? The damage they deal hits me no issues, and yet the red team seems impervious. Cheaters, cheating. That is the issue here. David you just summed it up and you make it sound so simple but I still just don't understand it . You have people that will swear up and down that there is nothing going on ... as a result of your example ( Which I agree with . ) and tell you that your having the problem because their not experiencing the same thing and it must be you . Am I to assume that these re the same type of people who are exploiting this same practice , you know .. the one's who can spam SR rounds faster than a pro using a CR ? I'm just so confused and I agree with you and I'm thankful that you make it sound so simple so that others could understand ... but I'm still confused . I guess I should just follow my mind and be like those who are likeminded , such as yourself and follow that answer and just not let it get to me when that crap happens . I work dealing with customers who swear up and down something wrong and it's my fault, just like your doing with CCP. 98% of the time, it's the user not the technology. If you can recreate the issues, get video of it. Post it here and send it to CCP. Well that's the whole point of what I'm doing , trying to get an understanding of why it happens , what .. if anything could be done about it and if it's something that can be done about it or not . That's not reasonable ? I've had customer service jobs and there not nice but that's to be expected when dealing with the public with BIG BOY or someone that's adult ... " pants " on , it's what you do . It's the job that you took at the time . You must have me mistaken . Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kyoudai Furinkazan 1133	Posted - 2014.08.29 17:31:00 - [6] - Quote This is something that we all have had to and do deal with , there might not be too many that can't relate to the issue of hit detection in this game but it just seems that it only happens while using certain weapons . I'm not really complaining more than I'm trying to grasp an understanding as to why it happens and if something could be done . Delta should come with a SP or infantry SP refund so that a campaign for one is not needed .