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I-Shayz-I
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Posted - 2014.08.27 08:10:00 -
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Assault Ak.0
3 Complex SIDEARM Damage mods
Viziam Scrambler
Cala's SMG
Or
Commando Ak.0
1 Complex Light Damage mod
Viziam Scrambler
Six Kin Assault Combat Rifle
Not who would win in a fight, just which one would be better at killing.
Both have similar HP values and the exact same armor regen
Assault 200/800
Commando 250/750
The commando just has a bigger hitbox and moves slower, while having more range with the ACR and doing 15% more damage with the Scrambler...and having insanely fast reloads
You could also do this better with the Minmatar Commando...it would get an insane amount of damage increase with 2 complex light damage mods and the min bonus to the ACR...
It's just that it would take forever to regen its already minimal HP and would still be slower than the Assault.
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I guess the real question is, how many damage mods do you need to make the cala's SMG as powerful as the Six Kin ACR? Or would the ACR be even more powerful with 2 damage mods and the minmatar commando bonus?
7162 wp with a Repair Tool!
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
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Posted - 2014.08.27 08:15:00 -
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If the ACR is ever outclassed in it's optimal, it's a very dark day for DUST.
They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank!
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Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.08.27 08:17:00 -
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The fact that I can't tell which one of those would win pleases me. It means we are closer to balance.
They are so similar.
I guess it depends on the situation. In an open field, I'd put my money on the Commando, but I'd say the Assault has the edge.
But even then, its so close...
I'd mark it down for preference. |
I-Shayz-I
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Posted - 2014.08.27 08:30:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:The fact that I can't tell which one of those would win pleases me. It means we are closer to balance.
They are so similar.
I guess it depends on the situation. In an open field, I'd put my money on the Commando, but I'd say the Assault has the edge.
But even then, its so close...
I'd mark it down for preference.
I know right? :D
By using the assault you have to engage the armor suit at a closer range, but I think you will do more damage. The ACR just has a much better range at the cost of having a larger hitbox (easier for a sentinel to kill you with a HMG), but that range might help against sentinels.
The Cala's is also relying on the fact that it is an officer weapon...so it would be impossible to be able to run this fit forever.
I'm gonna go with the assault though. It's much faster, has a smaller hitbox, and will be able to see sentinels and medium frames on radar (the commando is at a major disadvantage here)
I'll still have to try the Minmatar commando though. It might be a good point defense option for running around an objective.
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Mejt0
Made in Poland...
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Posted - 2014.08.27 08:38:00 -
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Slow + weak regen.. hmm.
Youre just trying to make sentiniel from assault .
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
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Posted - 2014.08.27 11:15:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:The fact that I can't tell which one of those would win pleases me. It means we are closer to balance.
They are so similar.
I guess it depends on the situation. In an open field, I'd put my money on the Commando, but I'd say the Assault has the edge.
But even then, its so close...
I'd mark it down for preference.
Lol balance? The A.CR outperforms the AR at basically everything. I'm guessing Shayz put the thing on there for a good CQC weapon and/or an armor obliterator.
Either way, the AR is worse than it's "failed copy". Balance? I think not. |
xavier zor
King and Queens
Peacekeepers of High-Sec
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Posted - 2014.08.27 11:24:00 -
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]The Six Kin Assault Combat Rifle...High rate of fire, decent clip size, high accuracy, excellent at hip fire and no cool down!
But...cons: High rate of fire (lol, you go through a clip in a few seconds), reload time, recoil if not burst-fired.
Besides the commando carries a viziam scrambler....so its basically the Viziam Scrambler Rifle and an SMG, or the Viziam Scrambler RIfle and the Six Kin Assault Rifle with damage bonuses. Basically an SMG on Jay Cutler's personal steroid bank! |
Diurnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
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Posted - 2014.08.27 11:37:00 -
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Why the Sidearm dmg mods?
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.08.27 12:03:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:If the ACR is ever outclassed in it's optimal, it's a very dark day for DUST.
It truly is a dark day when the AR becomes decent.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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