DUST Search - Side Arm Balance: Merging the Threads

THE-PIMP-NAMED-SLICKBACK wrote:

Erasmus Konstantin wrote:

I like where we're going with the RoF boost to the bolt pistol, but the charge time between shots needs to go. No other automatic rail weapon works like that and it really cuts the dps as shown in the google doc. By all means leave the initial charge time in, in line with the other rail weapons.

I wonder if buffing the hipfire would be going too far. I use the bolt pistol a lot, sometimes as a primary for fun, and while it is deadly pinpoint accurate in ADS, it could benefit a little bit more in CQC from having similar hipfire to the scrambler pistol. Both have similar crosshair bloom when continuously firing, but having that first shot accuracy be that much more accurate would lend it more of that 'skillshot' feel.

Considering the initial charge time, you really need to make that first shot count, especially in close quarters.

The charge between shots is the only thing keeping that weapon from being OP. Take that away and you got a mini semi auto sniper.


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Erasmus Konstantin Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 46	Posted - 2014.08.29 17:39:00 - [1] - Quote I like where we're going with the RoF boost to the bolt pistol, but the charge time between shots needs to go. No other automatic rail weapon works like that and it really cuts the dps as shown in the google doc. By all means leave the initial charge time in, in line with the other rail weapons. I wonder if buffing the hipfire would be going too far. I use the bolt pistol a lot, sometimes as a primary for fun, and while it is deadly pinpoint accurate in ADS, it could benefit a little bit more in CQC from having similar hipfire to the scrambler pistol. Both have similar crosshair bloom when continuously firing, but having that first shot accuracy be that much more accurate would lend it more of that 'skillshot' feel. Considering the initial charge time, you really need to make that first shot count, especially in close quarters.
Erasmus Konstantin Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 46	Posted - 2014.08.29 18:37:00 - [2] - Quote THE-PIMP-NAMED-SLICKBACK wrote: Erasmus Konstantin wrote: I like where we're going with the RoF boost to the bolt pistol, but the charge time between shots needs to go. No other automatic rail weapon works like that and it really cuts the dps as shown in the google doc. By all means leave the initial charge time in, in line with the other rail weapons. I wonder if buffing the hipfire would be going too far. I use the bolt pistol a lot, sometimes as a primary for fun, and while it is deadly pinpoint accurate in ADS, it could benefit a little bit more in CQC from having similar hipfire to the scrambler pistol. Both have similar crosshair bloom when continuously firing, but having that first shot accuracy be that much more accurate would lend it more of that 'skillshot' feel. Considering the initial charge time, you really need to make that first shot count, especially in close quarters. The charge between shots is the only thing keeping that weapon from being OP. Take that away and you got a mini semi auto sniper. The charge mechanic is pointless when you can just change the RoF, it would make it more in line with the other railguns. Also the bolt pistol is already fully automatic, just slow. You would still have the initial charge when you release the trigger and pull it again.
Erasmus Konstantin Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 46	Posted - 2014.08.30 02:10:00 - [3] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: Back to the topic at hand though. What I'm hearing from people is a debate over the charge per shot on the bolt pistol. Two schools of thought here: 1) Bolt pistol, as it currently stands, does not match the other infantry rail weapons and should only charge prior to the first shot. Some fear that this would make the weapon OP as it would be a rather high amount of DPS though this could be countered with a reduction to the RoF. This change would possibly make the weapon easier to use. 2) The bolt pistol in its current state fires like the rail turret and the assault forge gun. People who support this school feel that changing the bolt pistol to only spool before the first shot would make it too easy to use. The advantage here is that a slower firing bolt pistol is more of a skill shot weapon. Well summed up. To be fair I'd be happy with either choice, it boils down to either an increase in damage or RoF to bring them in line with the other sidearms. I just wanted to get some discussion going about the bolt pistol as it seems overshadowed by the other sidearm's problems I think we can all agree about a PG reduction on the bolt pistol however.