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Ryme Intrinseca
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Posted - 2014.08.26 01:30:00 -
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Got OHKed twice by a Russian min scout knifer soon after the change. He didn't get the drop on me either time, was just camping a doorway and hit me in the face. FIrst time, was expecting a gunfight, second time, was expecting knives, but hadn't realized the range had been buffed.
Moral of the story is, a NKer can now actually lock down an enclosed area unless you brought a burst HMG or core locus with you. Does seem borderline OP, not sure min scout+NKs is really meant as a stationary instaglib dispenser. Perhaps there is some counter I'm missing though. |
Ryme Intrinseca
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Posted - 2014.08.26 01:49:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Ryme Intrinseca wrote:Got OHKed twice by a Russian min scout knifer soon after the change. He didn't get the drop on me either time, was just camping a doorway and hit me in the face. FIrst time, was expecting a gunfight, second time, was expecting knives, but hadn't realized the range had been buffed.
Moral of the story is, a NKer can now actually lock down an enclosed area unless you brought a burst HMG or core locus with you. Does seem borderline OP, not sure min scout+NKs is really meant as a stationary instaglib dispenser. Perhaps there is some counter I'm missing though. You could grenade/RE every doorway lol, but as far as reasonable counters I guess you just have to learn to twirl like a ballerina all the time. It's what I do always now because of how many shotgun/knova knife scouts are running around these days. Even if knova knives got buffed they can't be OP unless we consider shotguns to be OP.
What I'm saying is I KNEW EXACTLY WHERE HE WAS! But there was still no way to handle him, short of running off to a supply depot to get explosives... which is just asking for a knife in the back. He could camp like a heavy indefinitely, instaglibbing anyone that came that way. There has always been a similar thing with shotguns, but they do at least miss more than NKs do now and are not going to OHK anything heavier than a scout. |
Ryme Intrinseca
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Posted - 2014.08.26 01:56:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Ryme Intrinseca wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Ryme Intrinseca wrote:Got OHKed twice by a Russian min scout knifer soon after the change. He didn't get the drop on me either time, was just camping a doorway and hit me in the face. FIrst time, was expecting a gunfight, second time, was expecting knives, but hadn't realized the range had been buffed.
Moral of the story is, a NKer can now actually lock down an enclosed area unless you brought a burst HMG or core locus with you. Does seem borderline OP, not sure min scout+NKs is really meant as a stationary instaglib dispenser. Perhaps there is some counter I'm missing though. You could grenade/RE every doorway lol, but as far as reasonable counters I guess you just have to learn to twirl like a ballerina all the time. It's what I do always now because of how many shotgun/knova knife scouts are running around these days. Even if knova knives got buffed they can't be OP unless we consider shotguns to be OP. What I'm saying is I KNEW EXACTLY WHERE HE WAS! But there was still no way to handle him, short of running off to a supply depot to get explosives... which is just asking for a knife in the back. He could camp like a heavy indefinitely, instaglibbing anyone that came that way. There has always been a similar thing with shotguns, but they do at least miss more than NKs do now and are not going to OHK anything heavier than a scout. I suppose that's true although My Caldari assaults get Ohkoed by shotguns a lot. Darn that shield damage profile on shottys. There wasn't another way into the building?
All the entrances were the same, so while I reposition myself he could just camp the doorway I'm moving to. |
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Posted - 2014.08.26 02:09:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Ryme Intrinseca wrote:Got OHKed twice by a Russian min scout knifer soon after the change. He didn't get the drop on me either time, was just camping a doorway and hit me in the face. FIrst time, was expecting a gunfight, second time, was expecting knives, but hadn't realized the range had been buffed.
Moral of the story is, a NKer can now actually lock down an enclosed area unless you brought a burst HMG or core locus with you. Does seem borderline OP, not sure min scout+NKs is really meant as a stationary instaglib dispenser. Perhaps there is some counter I'm missing though. Did you not jump and then backpedal? It is still hard for me to kill people who are constantly moving. If I lose track of someone for a second, I am dead. I would never sit in one place as a knifer, unless I was trying to hide and survive. That is just a good way to get myself killed. Otherwise, shotguns at 5-10 m work as well. Even of the militia variety. You rarely see knifers with lots of tank.
He was hiding literally next to the door. So to enter the building I had to get to within 1-2m of him. It would have been possible for me to jump in and he MIGHT have missed but it's a very high risk move with the new knife range. |
Ryme Intrinseca
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Posted - 2014.08.26 02:12:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Ryme Intrinseca wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Ryme Intrinseca wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:You could grenade/RE every doorway lol, but as far as reasonable counters I guess you just have to learn to twirl like a ballerina all the time. It's what I do always now because of how many shotgun/knova knife scouts are running around these days.
Even if knova knives got buffed they can't be OP unless we consider shotguns to be OP. What I'm saying is I KNEW EXACTLY WHERE HE WAS! But there was still no way to handle him, short of running off to a supply depot to get explosives... which is just asking for a knife in the back. He could camp like a heavy indefinitely, instaglibbing anyone that came that way. There has always been a similar thing with shotguns, but they do at least miss more than NKs do now and are not going to OHK anything heavier than a scout. I suppose that's true although My Caldari assaults get Ohkoed by shotguns a lot. Darn that shield damage profile on shottys. There wasn't another way into the building? All the entrances were the same, so while I reposition myself he could just camp the doorway I'm moving to. ah true let me guess was it the little Gallente Socket buildings with two entrances and a roof access? If so, then yeah I'd imagine he could see your red chevron the whole time. In that situation id just bail and go find another target. If you are scared of him coming at you just watch the building while you call in a LAV. He's not going to catch you if your driving away lol. I assume it was just you and him so I would of done this and went off to join the rest of the fight where everyone else was.
Yeah in retrospect I should have just run away, I would do so now I understand the knife buff better. |
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