Only skilled & looking-for-unbeatable-fun people use knives. If u r good at it ,u can pretty much kill a heavy with 1 charged shot. So i dont think this is a troll post.

Please report to PC deploys for OP knife testing..
Pub battles a Min Scout can go 20-0 with his bare hands, Is the suit OP?

No.. neither are the knives, what is OP is peoples ignorance to cloakers and the lack of effort with scans
'Knife you once, shame on me.. Knife you twice shame on you!'
Mercs rarely bother to check their flanks or to use scanning gear in pub battles, opening themselves up to Scout kills
Some Minja's are just damn hard to avoid but a large % are just fast suits making quick flanks and getting kills...
which would be negated if - The team covered their flanks - Used the right scanning gear..

In PC the Mk.0 has a good hacking and killing bonus but is kept in-line by the fact it is the easiest to track down
You see it get some use but it is still an inferior suit to the Gk.0 Scout and the others are arguable depending how you play

In pub battles... 2 Kincatz will do most of the work, the reds are unlikely to scan you down and even if they did,
your speed gets you out of most tight spots.. And right back into the next kill

But in PC where the balance is best 16 Vs 16 going for the win, I do not think the Nova Knives are any way OP
They are efficient to quickly take down an enemy (any enemy ) and get hacks in fast..
If the knives could not down an enemy as fast as they do.. what would be the point in using the weakest suit ingame??

And if you insist on runnin Mk.0 with Ishukones in public contracts I am not surprised you think it's OP

btw. I know the next qq thread after next hotfix - ION pistol OP

srsly, I never thought we will see plc,knives and minnie scouts qq threads :)


nerf flux grenades!! they OHK shields! :D

I think it was that extra 0.5 m damage.

It is crazy how much that little bit of range makes a difference. Unless there was a stealth fix they didn't tell us about.

simple counter

scout with precision enhancers - if they want speed they can't have stealth or much EHP. very high success rate vs KN players.

or

simply be alot more aware of your surroundings. this should get them more often than not.

I think we decided a LONG time ago that you don't determine whether something is OP or not through pubs.

Knives are strong now, that's given. But it's also a VERY niche role and highly specialized at that. They SHOULD be deadly when used right, since you sacrifice so much trying to use them (RANGE)

Until I see people with knives beating AR's in CQC in face-to-face confrontations, I'm not gonna call knives OP.

What? What kind of redberries are they going against!

Any halfway competent team can deny numbers like that. A few questions:

Are they ALL nova knife kills, or are they mixing a sidearm and remotes.

What game mode is this happening in.

What maps and area's of the map.

You make it seem like nova knives are OP, but in my estimation they are very mode and map dependent. Open area maps are insanely hard to flank on. And sure they might get a few kills in a city area, but what is it they are killing. Milita suits, or other low HP suits, where one uncharged swipe can take someone out.

There just too many unfavorable variables for one that goes out to SOLELY NF (as I have a suit built just for that). I would say that shotgun is way more OP than NF. And OP min scout, are you kidding me?? Do you have any idea how squishy a min scout is. So many times have I just been running around to drop instantly to a CR or RR. Speed be damned.

So your estimation that NF are OP is simply wrong and false. Without a doubt they are running things other than a NF, like say shotgun and NF or RR and NF, with RE's sprinkled in.

I was playing around with melee today and if its true they fixed knife hit detection I hope they fix melee too... Had a guy hacking right in front of me walked right up to him punched him twice he turned around and shot me once with his militia shotgun doing 800+ e/hp damage... (I was using a Calmmando so the shotgun did bonus damage to my 500 shields)

Funny thing was in the kill screen he had 213 shields and 200 armor (He was an adv minmitar logi with a cloak.) I later had him shotgun me again and he had the exact same suit with the exact same shields. That's when I realized my two punches did not hit him even though his shields flared and body moved.

TL;DR: That's cool OP, can Rattatai fix the melee detection now?

On a side note my favorite thing to do is punch a minja to death when the hit detection actually works.

But what about all the min scouts who do just that, only for me to dodge away and keep range. I know there are a lot of stupid blueberries (often times if it wasn't for me just paying attention to that cloaker running around the side, all blueberries would die to one scout that was clear as day to anyone using their eyes), but where do I get berries like the ones you come against.

And I run 2 kin cats and 2 myos with a cloak and nothing but a knife on my pure knife suit. All it takes is 2 or 3 bullets from a freaking milita weapon to drop me.

Proto spam squad with max skill on PUB match..............., "REALLY!"

I'm so proud of you.

And if he runs a proto cloak (and is using it), I believe the min scout evades even the Gal Logi.

Do you agree?

wow. the concept of knives killing players... welcome to the normal world of FPS...

I find it very funny that the op didn't list aim adhesion as one of the reasons nova knives work better

Only because you and everyone in your Corp glitch this game

I wouldn't say NKs are OP.

Just last night, I had a knife fight with OZAROW and neither of us were dealing damage to each other even over the span of like 3 minutes.

Lol...

Or if both were on the same team and had nothing better to do than have a mock knife fight within a 20m radius around an enemy CRU...