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Happy Violentime
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Posted - 2014.08.25 10:02:00 -
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Needs about another 7/8 pg at proto with maxed skills.
Thank you.
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Middas Betancore
Kirjuun Heiian
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Posted - 2014.08.25 10:30:00 -
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Either that or it's extender pg that could use a tweak, enhanced is 6 pg, complex is 11, that's a bit of a jump. Perhaps complex drops to 9 pg?
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.08.25 10:55:00 -
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http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/230/7115 Does it really need it? I even have a kincat on my usual fit.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Cruor Abominare
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.08.25 11:06:00 -
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Its pg only really becomes a drag if you're trying to stay competitive with the ehp of the other assaults. It simply can't keep up, the current meta with the influx of scramblers is really rough on it as well, you're simply going to get chewed up harder than the other guys.
so with poor scan range you'll need to either leech scans off your squad or run a scanner and try to stay towards the back with a rail or your own scram. That or hope you have a much better gun game that the other guy.
honestly I still favor my cal scout over the assault even with the cal bonus being incorrectly coded and not working. |
Happy Violentime
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Posted - 2014.08.25 13:47:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/230/7115 Does it really need it? I even have a kincat on my usual fit.
If you stuck a comparable fit on a gal assault, you'd be able to fit a kala RR and higher tier SMG/Nades/Hives |
Mejt0
Made in Poland... E-R-A
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Posted - 2014.08.25 13:54:00 -
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Well, no. Cal assault have egnouth pg to fit what he needs.
My buddy runs with kal RR,shields,regulators,energizers (these that give more %),Core locus,eq of choice etc etc.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.08.25 13:56:00 -
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Happy Violentime wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/230/7115 Does it really need it? I even have a kincat on my usual fit. If you stuck a comparable fit on a gal assault, you'd be able to fit a kala RR and higher tier SMG/Nades/Hives
Firstly, that can fit a Kaala anyway.
Secondly, no, a Galassault with 5 proto tank modules and 3 proto highs can't fit proto weapon SMG grenade and hive.
This is essentially a complaint you can't fit all proto with no effort.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.08.25 15:22:00 -
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Cruor Abominare wrote:Its pg only really becomes a drag if you're trying to stay competitive with the ehp of the other assaults. It simply can't keep up, the current meta with the influx of scramblers is really rough on it as well, you're simply going to get chewed up harder than the other guys.
so with poor scan range you'll need to either leech scans off your squad or run a scanner and try to stay towards the back with a rail or your own scram. That or hope you have a much better gun game that the other guy.
honestly I still favor my cal scout over the assault even with the cal bonus being incorrectly coded and not working.
good. gives the assault rifles something to shoot at.
seriously why would you try to dual tank caldari assault now that shield regen has been buffed...
Eternal Beings - #76 in All Time WP - #90 in All Time Kills. Member since day one, 10 months ago.
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I-Shayz-I
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Posted - 2014.08.25 16:19:00 -
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I'm not having any issues with it.
There's this thing called RR fitting optimization and sidearm fitting optimization. Those are your friends. You should also use a recharger/energizer instead ofjust tanking your suit with shield modules. 30 hp/s is not nearly enough for a Caldari suit.
You don't need a ton of HP on the caldari suits, just need to make sure you're using at least one complex regulator to cancel out the negative effects of stacking shields (I usually go with 2 complex one enhanced as the enhanced has much less of a penalty for about 18 hp decrease and a bunch of fitting space), and to make sure your shields are always recharging.
With this kind of fitting strategy you will still find pg very hard to come by, but there's plenty of options for how to fit your suit. Why not try a profile dampener? How about dual shield energizers?
It's not hard :P
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
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Posted - 2014.08.25 16:49:00 -
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It's funny how no one tries to balance these fittings without taking in mind fitting optimization skills.
They have enough PG. Only the Minmatar Scout needs like a point of PG or two at both STD and ADV. |
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
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Posted - 2014.08.25 16:55:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/230/7115 Does it really need it? I even have a kincat on my usual fit. pathetic thing is.. 1 flux and a bum rush and your down like 300k+ isk
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.08.25 17:05:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/230/7115 Does it really need it? I even have a kincat on my usual fit. pathetic thing is.. 1 flux and a bum rush and your down like 300k+ isk 1 Grenade and you rush any armor suit... (Heavies not included)
Fluxes are mainly for clearing equipment, grenades are much more versatile since, ya know, they can actually kill stuff.
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2014.08.25 17:08:00 -
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It's quite simple.
You aren't supposed to fit everything proto.
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Sergeant Sazu
New Age Empire. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.25 18:24:00 -
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If you're running out of PG with your Caldari Assault, it is possibly because:
1. You're using too many Complex Extenders. They take up a suspicious amount of PG, and you're better off with 1 or 2 Energizers anyway. Caldari suits need Energizers and Regulators to keep the shield up. Running all Extenders is as effective as having a mediocre amount of armor with a logibro that dozes off occasionally.
2. You're stacking Complex Armor Plates. Don't do that. Nuff said.
3. You're trying to fit everything proto. You're not supposed to do that. Scale a few modules down and don't think of it as a sacrifice or loss, because it isnt.
4. If none of those reasons apply, then the answer is the weapon fitting optimization skills. Those Rails and Scramblers are the definition of high PG usage.
Also remember that "shield tanker" suits aren't supposed to fill the same tactical role as the armor ones. Having less HP but much more regen (if fitted right), shield suits fare better facing outliers of the group and using the environment to their advantage. Whereas armor suits are best at holding the frontline against multiple enemies, provided they have support.
...That last part is my take on it, I could be wrong. I'm not experienced with PC. But my point is, another possible reason you're having trouble fitting your suit, is that you're trying to fit it for something it's not intended to do.
But it's all opinion. Train those fitting skills up and you'll have the 7 or 8 PG you need.
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Happy Violentime
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Posted - 2014.08.26 13:38:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Happy Violentime wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/230/7115 Does it really need it? I even have a kincat on my usual fit. If you stuck a comparable fit on a gal assault, you'd be able to fit a kala RR and higher tier SMG/Nades/Hives Firstly, that can fit a Kaala anyway. Secondly, no, a Galassault with 5 proto tank modules and 3 proto highs can't fit proto weapon SMG grenade and hive. This is essentially a complaint you can't fit all proto with no effort.
I never said it could fit a proto Weapon, proto SMG, proto Nade and proto Hive - learn to read!
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Nobinishi
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.08.26 14:09:00 -
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8 to 9 PG....really...lol..?
No...no they don't. You maxed weapon and sidearm opt. to lvl 5? lol?
Invest in weapon optimization some more.
Drop some complex mods & sidearm to ADV.
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m621 zma
Seraphim Initiative..
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Posted - 2014.08.26 17:42:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:This is essentially a complaint you can't fit all proto with no effort.
Cat Merc wrote:You aren't supposed to fit everything proto.
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m621 zma
Seraphim Initiative..
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Posted - 2014.08.26 18:03:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/230/7115 Does it really need it?
Good to see that 1.86 mil SP in SMG fitting optimisation going to good use |
Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.08.26 18:08:00 -
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m621 zma wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:This is essentially a complaint you can't fit all proto with no effort. Cat Merc wrote:You aren't supposed to fit everything proto. Mr Amar Sentinel says 'Shhhhhhhh!!' It can fit everything proto?
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m621 zma
Seraphim Initiative..
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Posted - 2014.08.26 19:43:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:m621 zma wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:This is essentially a complaint you can't fit all proto with no effort. Cat Merc wrote:You aren't supposed to fit everything proto. Mr Amar Sentinel says 'Shhhhhhhh!!' It can fit everything proto?
Complex dmg mod or (comp shield if ya like) Boundless hmg Ishy SMG Core locus
and then mix and match your plates
1 complex armour plate + 2 complex ferro + 1 complex reactive
or
1 complex armour plate + 3 complex ferro
or
4 complex reactive
or
2 complex ferro + 2 complex reactive
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