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Leovarian L Lavitz
This We'll Defend
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Posted - 2014.08.24 06:10:00 -
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I don't consider infantry VRS vehicles very fun right now-that said vehicles vrs infantry is glorious Any ideas how to bring infantry more fun when engaging vehicles?
I think the nova knives buff verses vehicles is a start, it's risky, its nuts, but it is fun imo. Jihad jeeping was another fun thing - for the driver, but tankers didn't appear to like it. I say - Let infantry shoot from vehicles with their infantry weapons - including heavy weapons, however heavy weapons kick as hard as they would on impact, so a heavy shooting a forge from a dropship would knock the dropship all over the place. (When players could ride vehicles, shooting from them was never easy, hand-held weapons get the same inertia and twist as turrets)
So, that's a 'buff' for vehicles, but it also gets infantry in on the action - they can have fun, drop down and have fun, just have a blast. AV players become more important because vehicles become more prominent on the battlefield - specifically LAVs and Dropships.
The mix of vehicles improves with lavs, dropships and tanks taking the field while infantry hold points.
However, you can only shoot with Side-arms out of the LAV passenger seat.
Omni-Soldier
Few are my equal in these specialties, none compare in all of them
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Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
135
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Posted - 2014.08.24 06:14:00 -
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Heavy Passengers in LAVs with HMGs would be FotM within 10 minutes of patch if they could shoot out of the passenger seat.
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Leovarian L Lavitz
This We'll Defend
1141
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Posted - 2014.08.24 06:15:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Heavy Passengers in LAVs with HMGs would be FotM within 10 minutes of patch if they could shoot out of the passenger seat.
Only sidearms from the passenger seat in LAVs
Omni-Soldier
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THE-PIMP-NAMED-SLICKBACK
Intrepidus XI EoN.
189
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Posted - 2014.08.24 06:16:00 -
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So if I go get 4 proto forge gunners and stick them in a dropship, is it fun to blast all the vehicles to hell before they get a chance to react? This is the exact reason why we can't gun from the lav passenger seat.
Planetside 2
Eventually
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Leovarian L Lavitz
This We'll Defend
1141
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Posted - 2014.08.24 06:18:00 -
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THE-PIMP-NAMED-SLICKBACK wrote:So if I go get 4 proto forge gunners and stick them in a dropship, is it fun to blast all the vehicles to hell before they get a chance to react? This is the exact reason why we can't gun from the lav passenger seat. Try it, it is tough as heck to land hits from a moving dropship onto a moving vehicle with a heavy weapon, I tested it out before vehicle surfing was nerfed. Additionally, forge guns blow back the dropship just like a forge hit against the dropship.
Omni-Soldier
Few are my equal in these specialties, none compare in all of them
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KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
1349
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Posted - 2014.08.24 06:18:00 -
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How could that happen without code? There is no development on Dust. There hasn't been since the f* fest in May. Nor will there be anymore. EVER. Only thing we got is new sniper rifle reticules and lots of hackery in the database. Nerf hammering is the way to go!
Put these blue sky posts in Legion. At least that has some chance of a developer actually coding something for the client.
Ain't nothing but dust down here, Merc.
And so it goes.
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Leovarian L Lavitz
This We'll Defend
1141
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Posted - 2014.08.24 06:19:00 -
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Forge gunners wouldn't be the issue, swarms would be.
Omni-Soldier
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Leovarian L Lavitz
This We'll Defend
1141
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Posted - 2014.08.24 06:20:00 -
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THE-PIMP-NAMED-SLICKBACK wrote:So if I go get 4 proto forge gunners and stick them in a dropship, is it fun to blast all the vehicles to hell before they get a chance to react? This is the exact reason why we can't gun from the lav passenger seat. So you lose 5 players of a 16 man team to av?
Omni-Soldier
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Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
135
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Posted - 2014.08.24 06:23:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Heavy Passengers in LAVs with HMGs would be FotM within 10 minutes of patch if they could shoot out of the passenger seat.
Only sidearms from the passenger seat in LAVs Light weapons or sidearms, barring Nova Knives obviously. That way, everyone can get in on the action, and heavies would have to make a tradeoff for their HP in a car.
Heavies would use SMGs(most likely I've never seen a heavy with anything but an SMG) Commandos would use whatever they please. They would be the best passengers, most likely. Assaults would be able to use their light or sidearm. Logis would use their light. Scouts would be able to use the light or sidearm.
This would allow for some very interesting AV as well. Imagine fire swarms at another vehi le while chasing it down in a LAV. |
Leovarian L Lavitz
This We'll Defend
1141
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Posted - 2014.08.24 06:24:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Heavy Passengers in LAVs with HMGs would be FotM within 10 minutes of patch if they could shoot out of the passenger seat.
Only sidearms from the passenger seat in LAVs Light weapons or sidearms, barring Nova Knives obviously. That way, everyone can get in on the action, and heavies would have to make a tradeoff for their HP in a car. Heavies would use SMGs(most likely I've never seen a heavy with anything but an SMG) Commandos would use whatever they please. They would be the best passengers, most likely. Assaults would be able to use their light or sidearm. Logis would use their light. Scouts would be able to use the light or sidearm. This would allow for some very interesting AV as well. Imagine fire swarms at another vehi le while chasing it down in a LAV. yup, it would be intense
Omni-Soldier
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Leovarian L Lavitz
This We'll Defend
1141
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Posted - 2014.08.24 06:25:00 -
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The best part is: There would be plenty of vehicles to hunt! Everyone would be zipping around in LAVs/ dropships and tanks. Blow it up? they come back in, AV has fun, vehicles have fun, everyone has fun except the fatty guarding alpha :(
Omni-Soldier
Few are my equal in these specialties, none compare in all of them
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Thurak1
Psygod9
940
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Posted - 2014.08.24 06:26:00 -
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I think there is a pretty good balance between AV and vehicles right now. Granted i am a forge gunner. These days i do considerable damage to tanks and can force them to retreat or be blow up within just a few shots. I still need to hit a supply depot or nanohive on a regular basis when riding the field of enemy tanks but at least now i can actually put a real hurt on tanks. |
Leovarian L Lavitz
This We'll Defend
1141
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Posted - 2014.08.24 06:26:00 -
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Have a mass-driver dropship spreading butt-hurt? Send in the swarmLAV. Onoooz!
Omni-Soldier
Few are my equal in these specialties, none compare in all of them
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Pvt Numnutz
Prophets of the Velocirapture
1831
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Posted - 2014.08.24 09:10:00 -
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Fun in theory but this would make dropships insanely op. I'd be in favor of side arms only as a passenger.
Besides being a shock trooper and jumping out of dropships is already a lot of fun!
Master Skyshark rider
Kaalaka dakka tamer
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1906
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Posted - 2014.08.24 14:08:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:Besides being a shock trooper and jumping out of dropships is already a lot of fun! Until you get splattered jumping out of a moving dropship. |
Derpty Derp
Dead Man's Game
342
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Posted - 2014.08.24 14:25:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:I don't consider infantry VRS vehicles very fun right now-that said vehicles vrs infantry is glorious Any ideas how to bring infantry more fun when engaging vehicles?
I think the nova knives buff verses vehicles is a start, it's risky, its nuts, but it is fun imo. Jihad jeeping was another fun thing - for the driver, but tankers didn't appear to like it. I say - Let infantry shoot from vehicles with their infantry weapons - including heavy weapons, however heavy weapons kick as hard as they would on impact, so a heavy shooting a forge from a dropship would knock the dropship all over the place. (When players could ride vehicles, shooting from them was never easy, hand-held weapons get the same inertia and twist as turrets)
So, that's a 'buff' for vehicles, but it also gets infantry in on the action - they can have fun, drop down and have fun, just have a blast. AV players become more important because vehicles become more prominent on the battlefield - specifically LAVs and Dropships.
The mix of vehicles improves with lavs, dropships and tanks taking the field while infantry hold points.
However, you can only shoot with Side-arms out of the LAV passenger seat.
I actually disagree with you on this...
Tank vs infantry is boring as hell, I troll about in my tank hoping for the other team to bring out vehicles for some fun... On the other hand chasing a tank with a jeep trying to get out and land a shot on it's weak spot is far more entertaining.
Also with Jihads, I like both being the jihad and trying to fend them off.
As for the idea of shooting from vehicles being interesting, well that would be pretty much the same fun as using a side turret, but without all the balancing issues that arise from people using forges from dropships or being able to rep the very vehicle you're in. |
MarasdF Loron
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
960
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Posted - 2014.08.24 16:02:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:I don't consider infantry VRS vehicles very fun right now-that said vehicles vrs infantry is glorious Any ideas how to bring infantry more fun when engaging vehicles? I have to to totally disagree with you, infantry vs vehicles is fun, maybe too much so atm and vehicles vs infantry is boring and lame as hell.
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