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Spectre-M wrote:

Maken Tosch wrote:

Spectre-M wrote:

It's weird how the FPS is on PC, but the flight sim is on console.

Just sayin. Are EVE players not interested in Valkery because it's on console, because that's where the forums are (EVE online).

I'm really tired of the poor planning by CCP and the excuses from the player base justifying convoluted or oxymoronic ideas.

Partly because Valkyrie is on console. However, CCP might still change their minds and expand Valkyrie to include the PC. I'm ok with combat sims being on any platform because nowadays you can just get a joystick peripheral for your console or PC. World of Warplanes demonstrated their flexibility with either KBM, game pad, or joystick without making it seem as if any peripheral had an advantage over the other.

I looked more into it after your comment, and it looks like it may be getting a PC version as well which will prove that not only can they build for PC but also port a PS4 release along side it.

I'll grab the link to show you.

Edit : it will be for both platforms. Here at the bottom under references. It says it's being released for both. As it's being developed on UE4 it will be able to play on literally any platform they want. I hope this means they will release Legion the same way. No use cutting out half of your consumers.

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SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 195	Posted - 2014.08.24 05:11:00 - [1] - Quote Dust is in shambles with the player count looking stable only because of ISK alt farming. Seriously, what the hell are you people doing? Leaving consumers in the dark is no way to keep a fan base. The fact that soon(TM) even exists is a result of your inability to follow through with anything. Maybe its time to talk to the EVE players about a boycott untill progress is made and announced. Legion Coming Soon(TM)
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4779	Posted - 2014.08.25 00:11:00 - [2] - Quote At the moment you are an entirely different consumer base than CCP is aiming the theoretical project legion at. That said, as you are not intended to "consume" anything in relation to the project, it means as far as PL goes you are actually not a consumer and therefore it makes perfect sense to keep you in the dark.
Spectre-M The Generals Anime Empire. 751	Posted - 2014.08.25 04:01:00 - [3] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: At the moment you are an entirely different consumer base than CCP is aiming the theoretical project legion at. That said, as you are not intended to "consume" anything in relation to the project, it means as far as PL goes you are actually not a consumer and therefore it makes perfect sense to keep you in the dark. Wait, so a player who actually comes to the forums related to the project is not apart of the consumer base? Also, they are keeping everyone in the dark. Minnmitar in Amarr armor. A Wolf in Sheeps clothing. May the Empress live till she graces my sights.
Miokai Zahou The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 374	Posted - 2014.08.25 04:02:00 - [4] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: At the moment you are an entirely different consumer base than CCP is aiming the theoretical project legion at. That said, as you are not intended to "consume" anything in relation to the project, it means as far as PL goes you are actually not a consumer and therefore it makes perfect sense to keep you in the dark. This.... makes so much sense that I unlike my like just to like it again. Noob isn't really a status, it's the online equivalent of a 5-year old calling you a poopy fart head.
SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 197	Posted - 2014.08.25 04:04:00 - [5] - Quote Let me reword that then. POTENTIAL CONSUMER. Legion Coming Soon(TM)
Spectre-M The Generals Anime Empire. 751	Posted - 2014.08.25 04:04:00 - [6] - Quote Also, the legion forums are here and not on eve online. Valkery however is on the eve forums. CCP seems to think this is the player target for thier product. Minnmitar in Amarr armor. A Wolf in Sheeps clothing. May the Empress live till she graces my sights.
SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 197	Posted - 2014.08.25 04:06:00 - [7] - Quote Spectre-M wrote: Also, the legion forums are here and not on eve online. Valkery however is on the eve forums. CCP seems to think this is the player target for thier product. EVE is where they make their money so a drop in subscriptions would be fatal as there is no other source of income Legion Coming Soon(TM)
Spectre-M The Generals Anime Empire. 752	Posted - 2014.08.25 04:51:00 - [8] - Quote SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote: Spectre-M wrote: Also, the legion forums are here and not on eve online. Valkery however is on the eve forums. CCP seems to think this is the player target for thier product. EVE is where they make their money so a drop in subscriptions would be fatal as there is no other source of income My point is, legion forums are here, not on eve. Ergo this is the target consumer for PL. Same goes for valkery. Thier forum is ther, not here. Ergo that is their target consumer. Don't see how this has escaped everyone in this thread so far. Minnmitar in Amarr armor. A Wolf in Sheeps clothing. May the Empress live till she graces my sights.
zzZaXxx D3ATH CARD 433	Posted - 2014.08.25 05:01:00 - [9] - Quote SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote: Spectre-M wrote: Also, the legion forums are here and not on eve online. Valkery however is on the eve forums. CCP seems to think this is the player target for thier product. EVE is where they make their money so a drop in subscriptions would be fatal as there is no other source of income So close to greatness but now they're just watching their bottom line. Like a washed up former rock star. CCP = Axel Rose
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9162	Posted - 2014.08.26 06:29:00 - [10] - Quote Dust forums are that way. ------------->>>>>>>>>>>>> On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.

Buster Friently Rosen Association 2420	Posted - 2014.08.27 05:34:00 - [11] - Quote SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote: Dust is in shambles with the player count looking stable only because of ISK alt farming. Seriously, what the hell are you people doing? Leaving consumers in the dark is no way to keep a fan base. The fact that soon(TM) even exists is a result of your inability to follow through with anything. Maybe its time to talk to the EVE players about a boycott untill progress is made and announced. Eve players don't give a crap about Dust. Secondly, I'm sure that CCP is busily trying to figure out how to stay in business over the next couple of years. Stay tuned ;)
lateris ablon Commando Perkone Caldari State 23	Posted - 2014.08.27 11:35:00 - [12] - Quote As a Eve Pilot I am really interested in the fact that Legion will be on the PC. If it does come to fruition I will gladly play it. In fact I will fully embrace it. As stated previously, to call for a boycott from Eve pilots on issues with this game or community is not going to happen and will fully be rejected by the Eve Online Community. At the 2014 fan fest when Legion was presented most of the "consumers" in that room felt it should have been on the PC first. Personally, I like the fact that CCP games tried a FPS on the console and welcome them with arms open for a big loving Grizzly hug to come back to the PC with Legion. I welcome all of you to the world of PC games. ATC
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9169	Posted - 2014.08.27 18:51:00 - [13] - Quote lateris ablon wrote: As a Eve Pilot I am really interested in the fact that Legion will be on the PC. If it does come to fruition I will gladly play it. In fact I will fully embrace it. As stated previously, to call for a boycott from Eve pilots on issues with this game or community is not going to happen and will fully be rejected by the Eve Online Community. At the 2014 fan fest when Legion was presented most of the "consumers" in that room felt it should have been on the PC first. Personally, I like the fact that CCP games tried a FPS on the console and welcome them with arms open for a big loving Grizzly hug to come back to the PC with Legion. I welcome all of you to the world of PC games. I saw the Livestream of Fanfest 2014 for the Dust 514 Keynote. Almost everyone in that room cheered with absolute glee when CCP Rouge announced that Legion is coming to PC. Keep in mind that the vast majority of Eve Online players didn't want any involvement with Dust because it was on a console rather than on a PC. Anyways, back to the OP's point, I like to tell you something... The last time CCP said anything at all in regards to what's coming for Dust, it never came to fruition. Promises of bubble shields, fighters, being able to use the skyfire battery, trading in the secondary market, etc. never came to be for Dust. Endless blogs of empty promises and interviews whose hype was full of hot air never helped either. I want CCP to stay quiet and just show us what they did with Legion ONCE IT'S ACTUALLY READY. EDIT: To quote CCP during the 2011 Jita Riots, "let's watch what they do, not what they say." On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Spectre-M The Generals Anime Empire. 771	Posted - 2014.09.01 03:15:00 - [14] - Quote It's weird how the FPS is on PC, but the flight sim is on console. Just sayin. Are EVE players not interested in Valkery because it's on console, because that's where the forums are (EVE online). I'm really tired of the poor planning by CCP and the excuses from the player base justifying convoluted or oxymoronic ideas. Minnmitar in Amarr armor. A Wolf in Sheeps clothing. May the Empress live till she graces my sights.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9189	Posted - 2014.09.01 08:37:00 - [15] - Quote Spectre-M wrote: It's weird how the FPS is on PC, but the flight sim is on console. Just sayin. Are EVE players not interested in Valkery because it's on console, because that's where the forums are (EVE online). I'm really tired of the poor planning by CCP and the excuses from the player base justifying convoluted or oxymoronic ideas. Partly because Valkyrie is on console. However, CCP might still change their minds and expand Valkyrie to include the PC. I'm ok with combat sims being on any platform because nowadays you can just get a joystick peripheral for your console or PC. World of Warplanes demonstrated their flexibility with either KBM, game pad, or joystick without making it seem as if any peripheral had an advantage over the other. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Spectre-M The Generals Anime Empire. 777	Posted - 2014.09.01 16:57:00 - [16] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Spectre-M wrote: It's weird how the FPS is on PC, but the flight sim is on console. Just sayin. Are EVE players not interested in Valkery because it's on console, because that's where the forums are (EVE online). I'm really tired of the poor planning by CCP and the excuses from the player base justifying convoluted or oxymoronic ideas. Partly because Valkyrie is on console. However, CCP might still change their minds and expand Valkyrie to include the PC. I'm ok with combat sims being on any platform because nowadays you can just get a joystick peripheral for your console or PC. World of Warplanes demonstrated their flexibility with either KBM, game pad, or joystick without making it seem as if any peripheral had an advantage over the other. I looked more into it after your comment, and it looks like it may be getting a PC version as well which will prove that not only can they build for PC but also port a PS4 release along side it. I'll grab the link to show you. Minnmitar in Amarr armor. A Wolf in Sheeps clothing. May the Empress live till she graces my sights.
lateris ablon Commando Perkone Caldari State 23	Posted - 2014.09.01 17:57:00 - [17] - Quote Spectre-M wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Spectre-M wrote: It's weird how the FPS is on PC, but the flight sim is on console. Just sayin. Are EVE players not interested in Valkery because it's on console, because that's where the forums are (EVE online). I'm really tired of the poor planning by CCP and the excuses from the player base justifying convoluted or oxymoronic ideas. Partly because Valkyrie is on console. However, CCP might still change their minds and expand Valkyrie to include the PC. I'm ok with combat sims being on any platform because nowadays you can just get a joystick peripheral for your console or PC. World of Warplanes demonstrated their flexibility with either KBM, game pad, or joystick without making it seem as if any peripheral had an advantage over the other. I looked more into it after your comment, and it looks like it may be getting a PC version as well which will prove that not only can they build for PC but also port a PS4 release along side it. I'll grab the link to show you. Edit : it will be for both platforms. Here at the bottom under references. It says it's being released for both. As it's being developed on UE4 it will be able to play on literally any platform they want. I hope this means they will release Legion the same way. No use cutting out half of your consumers. That is the beauty of the Unreal Engine and how you can make a game for multiple platforms. But not all games port that kindly in terms of game play or modifications that a studio makes to a game engine. There are lots of variables here that can crush it like "Upper Management" (just kidding ) and then the tech of a highly modified version of the Unreal Engine version 3 with games such as Dust 514. You know the fact that this game will be on PC is an open opportunity for CCP games to let the community make textures, mods, weapons, armor, and clothing for cosmetic items much like SOE does with Planet Side 2 and have it posted on the player stores. You know, share the wealth. Build a database- easily tracked and doable. Pick one currency and go from there. ATC
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9192	Posted - 2014.09.01 20:00:00 - [18] - Quote Spectre-M wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Spectre-M wrote: It's weird how the FPS is on PC, but the flight sim is on console. Just sayin. Are EVE players not interested in Valkery because it's on console, because that's where the forums are (EVE online). I'm really tired of the poor planning by CCP and the excuses from the player base justifying convoluted or oxymoronic ideas. Partly because Valkyrie is on console. However, CCP might still change their minds and expand Valkyrie to include the PC. I'm ok with combat sims being on any platform because nowadays you can just get a joystick peripheral for your console or PC. World of Warplanes demonstrated their flexibility with either KBM, game pad, or joystick without making it seem as if any peripheral had an advantage over the other. I looked more into it after your comment, and it looks like it may be getting a PC version as well which will prove that not only can they build for PC but also port a PS4 release along side it. I'll grab the link to show you. Edit : it will be for both platforms. Here at the bottom under references. It says it's being released for both. As it's being developed on UE4 it will be able to play on literally any platform they want. I hope this means they will release Legion the same way. No use cutting out half of your consumers. I don't think CCP will release Legion the same way primarily because they burned themselves severely with the development of Dust 514 which ultimately proved to be an utter failure on many levels. CCP feels it's better for Legion to be on the PC for now, let it build up in the one platform CCP knows best, and then possibly think about going back to the console once the game has stood up again on its own two feet. Honestly CCP should've released Dust on the PC first which provided a suitable development environment for it to grow and then later move on into the console just in time for the PS4 release. But instead, CCP did it the other way around and on a console that is now out of date no less. And with the lack of proper management as well as suffering a major loss on the development of World of Darkness, CCP had to rethink everything. So I can't blame them for choosing Legion to be PC only for now especially after that huge setback with Dust. PS: Wikipedia, unless it is its own wiki website sponsored directly by CCP itself like wiki.eveonline.com is, is not a valid reference to me. Sorry. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3230	Posted - 2014.09.02 03:12:00 - [19] - Quote SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote: Dust is in shambles with the player count looking stable only because of ISK alt farming. This is complete nonsense. Peak Concurrent Users, the metric most players use to judge activity, require that those characters be logged in at the same time. Whether alt farming or not, a PS3 can only be logged into 1 (ONE) character at a time. Player count is up because we have more players playing the game. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9198	Posted - 2014.09.02 04:50:00 - [20] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote: Dust is in shambles with the player count looking stable only because of ISK alt farming. This is complete nonsense. Peak Concurrent Users, the metric most players use to judge activity, require that those characters be logged in at the same time. Whether alt farming or not, a PS3 can only be logged into 1 (ONE) character at a time. Player count is up because we have more players playing the game. This. Of course, the alt farming still needs to be addressed. But again, this is a Dust topic that belongs in the Dust section, NOT in the Project Legion section. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.

Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3244	Posted - 2014.09.02 09:56:00 - [21] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: This. Of course, the alt farming still needs to be addressed. But again, this is a Dust topic that belongs in the Dust section, NOT in the Project Legion section. Did you see CCP Rattati's Delta narrative? It should be quite a sad day for the alt farmer when Delta drops indeed. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Spectre-M The Generals 795	Posted - 2014.09.02 16:44:00 - [22] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: This. Of course, the alt farming still needs to be addressed. But again, this is a Dust topic that belongs in the Dust section, NOT in the Project Legion section. Did you see CCP Rattati's Delta narrative? It should be quite a sad day for the alt farmer when Delta drops indeed. It's good to see the pre allocated skills in cores too. Adds to the NPE as new players will get a grasp of what to skill first before specializing. Core skill will apply to any role they choose and will make it that much easier to adjust to the universe of New Eden. Minnmitar in Amarr armor. A Wolf in Sheeps clothing. May the Empress live till she graces my sights.
Spectre-M The Generals 795	Posted - 2014.09.02 16:49:00 - [23] - Quote @Maken - sorry, I should have linked the actual reference that was found in that wiki document. This is the blog from Oculus that shows the co-development of Eve Valkerie. Minnmitar in Amarr armor. A Wolf in Sheeps clothing. May the Empress live till she graces my sights.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3247	Posted - 2014.09.02 18:33:00 - [24] - Quote Spectre-M wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: This. Of course, the alt farming still needs to be addressed. But again, this is a Dust topic that belongs in the Dust section, NOT in the Project Legion section. Did you see CCP Rattati's Delta narrative? It should be quite a sad day for the alt farmer when Delta drops indeed. It's good to see the pre allocated skills in cores too. Adds to the NPE as new players will get a grasp of what to skill first before specializing. Core skill will apply to any role they choose and will make it that much easier to adjust to the universe of New Eden. This is one of those things where I think a fix is killing two birds with one stone, yes. I love fixes like that. :) CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
zzZaXxx D3ATH CARD 467	Posted - 2014.09.02 19:52:00 - [25] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Spectre-M wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: This. Of course, the alt farming still needs to be addressed. But again, this is a Dust topic that belongs in the Dust section, NOT in the Project Legion section. Did you see CCP Rattati's Delta narrative? It should be quite a sad day for the alt farmer when Delta drops indeed. It's good to see the pre allocated skills in cores too. Adds to the NPE as new players will get a grasp of what to skill first before specializing. Core skill will apply to any role they choose and will make it that much easier to adjust to the universe of New Eden. This is one of those things where I think a fix is killing two birds with one stone, yes. I love fixes like that. :) Do like fixes where you can kill multiple ants with one magnifying glass? I know your kind.
TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 5432	Posted - 2014.09.03 18:07:00 - [26] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote: Dust is in shambles with the player count looking stable only because of ISK alt farming. This is complete nonsense. Peak Concurrent Users, the metric most players use to judge activity, require that those characters be logged in at the same time. Whether alt farming or not, a PS3 can only be logged into 1 (ONE) character at a time. Player count is up because we have more players playing the game. Pics or it didn't happen. Pics were photo shopped. Server numbers are made up. I feel it's dying, therefore, it is. My hometown beat Manchester united. Git gud man utd. 4-0
SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 203	Posted - 2014.09.04 20:43:00 - [27] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote: Dust is in shambles with the player count looking stable only because of ISK alt farming. This is complete nonsense. Peak Concurrent Users, the metric most players use to judge activity, require that those characters be logged in at the same time. Whether alt farming or not, a PS3 can only be logged into 1 (ONE) character at a time. Player count is up because we have more players playing the game. Pics or it didn't happen. Pics were photo shopped. Server numbers are made up. I feel it's dying, therefore, it is. Yes a PS3 can only be logged into one account at a time. the count is not instantaneous but taken over a period of 30minutes so it includes all of the accounts logged in over the last 30 minutes Legion Coming Soon(TM)


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