Dear condescending ground troop... I will complain when I'm killed by a buggy weapon... Everything is fine except the swarm launcher, how would you like it if you couldn't see a vehicle until it was 20 meters away, but it could see you from the other side of the map & then to boot you didn't get a hit indicator when you were shot by it?

Do you complain about other ground troops going 30 kills and little to no deaths? I did it earlier with a tac AR and a shotgun on a commando suit... Not all vehicles go like that, I'd like to see you farm a butt load in a tank/dropship in a match with me, before or after Charlie.

I was going to make a thread, but I may as well ask here:

If you knew what CCP was going to do with Vehicles, would you have requested an AV nerf anyways?

Do you complain about other ground troops going 30 kills and little to no deaths? I did it earlier with a tac AR and a shotgun on a commando suit... Not all vehicles go like that, I'd like to see you farm a butt load in a tank/dropship in a match with me, before or after Charlie.

Last I checked infantry don't have close to 3,000 armor and can't reduce damage by -40%

They're also not the size of a large shed with a weakpoint covering the back half, nor do they make a crap ton of noise when they're near you (unless firing certain weapons.)

I was going to make a thread, but I may as well ask here:

If you knew what CCP was going to do with Vehicles in 1.7, would you have requested an AV nerf anyways?

So if you could design AV what would your specs be for the swarm launcher lmao! Oh boy please! I want to hear this!!!

Would the swarms even be able to kill you lol?

You do know proto swarms run about 28-47k a piece? I know dropships cost a ton more, but you might not be aware of the fact that the survival rate of any decent AVer with swarms is pretty low?! I can die 3 to 7 times trying to drop one dropship, and that depends on if I have help or not lmao!

Yes, the entire enemy team gets whatever AV they have, and takes you out! You're a threat! You wanna fly around uncontested on a solo hay-maker, and we won't let it happen huh? We have dropship pilots in corp, and they have learned to stop playing one man army quick lol! They request clear airspace from the ground troops, like real pilots do, and wait for confirmation before playing top gun music and charging in?! We keep an eye out for AV on the ground, and hack or destroy turrets for them! They have gunners! I know, insane right?! The pilot may not see the swarmer, but a second pair of eyes, can not only see him, but engage as well! So the bit about dying 3 to 7 times as an AVer is totally legit! I know because I am one, and I hunt them down!

Like the rest of us( ground troops, tankers, etc.) You need to adjust to an ever changing enviroment! The solo pilot is a big target dude, sorry?!

Plus I get war points every time I get into your armor, and you flee and come back lmao!

I don't want to get into this topic but let me just say that if you dual carry a plasma cannon on a minmando with 2 damage mods....way better than a fg....tiss all!

Minmatar Commando doesn't get a bonus to plasma Cannons.

The Direct Damage and even splash is in the Hybrid Blaster category

So if you could design AV what would your specs be for the swarm launcher lmao! Oh boy please! I want to hear this!!!

Would the swarms even be able to kill you lol?

You do know proto swarms run about 28-47k a piece? I know dropships cost a ton more, but you might not be aware of the fact that the survival rate of any decent AVer with swarms is pretty low?! I can die 3 to 7 times trying to drop one dropship, and that depends on if I have help or not lmao!

Yes, the entire enemy team gets whatever AV they have, and takes you out! You're a threat! You wanna fly around uncontested on a solo hay-maker, and we won't let it happen huh? We have dropship pilots in corp, and they have learned to stop playing one man army quick lol! They request clear airspace from the ground troops, like real pilots do, and wait for confirmation before playing top gun music and charging in?! We keep an eye out for AV on the ground, and hack or destroy turrets for them! They have gunners! I know, insane right?! The pilot may not see the swarmer, but a second pair of eyes, can not only see him, but engage as well! So the bit about dying 3 to 7 times as an AVer is totally legit! I know because I am one, and I hunt them down!

Like the rest of us( ground troops, tankers, etc.) You need to adjust to an ever changing enviroment! The solo pilot is a big target dude, sorry?!

Plus I get war points every time I get into your armor, and you flee and come back lmao!

I play AV role often, I don't see how you can possibly die 3-7 times taking out a single dropship. I die 0-3 times in the whole match when I'm doing AV, and 90% of the time I manage to take out all enemy vehicles from the field. Seriously, what's so hard about the easiest role in the game?

Dear pilots, stop complaining when you die. Before Charlie you went 30/0 pretty often and were invincible, turrets were just free points as were all infantry. After Charlie all I see you pilots doing is complaining that boo hoo a turret or AV killed me so they need to be nerfed now instead of going 30/0 you now go 30/1. A few things.

1. Turrets have MASSIVE blindspots!
Railguns are lucky to be able to aim at the enemy MCC so watch your altitude and you are fine also it takes 4-5 shots to down a standard dropship and in addition have no range!
Blaster turrets also have a large blindspot and unless you are very close you are getting chip damage!
Missile turrets are a even bigger joke and are always behind a boulder.

2. AV ARE MEANT TO KILL VEHICLES!
Forge Guns and Swarm Launchers are the games main two anti-vehicle weapons! Oh boo hoo a swarm launcher killed me guess what that same guy just got killed by infantry because it does nothing to infantry and the swarm of orange rockets tend to alert snipers. And forge guns tend to take a good half hour to charge, and can only be used by heavies which if I remember right you can move faster then. If you get killed by AV the game isn't broken that means its working, yet if you go 20+/0 the game is perfectly balanced and fair.

3. Vehicles are not meant to be invincible!
In every game I've played in the past vehicles are not nearly as powerful as they are in Dust 514. No other game I have played gives vehicles the ability to activate a buff to restore shields, reduce damage by -40%, or increase damage to make sure you kill a tank before it lands just in case it could be a threat. At best the vehicles in other games get a small heal over time thats all. So you are MUCH MUCH better off then any other game.