DUST Search - Cal Scouts, make some noise about this

ZB DeLong wrote:

Izlare Lenix wrote:

ZB DeLong wrote:

Izlare Lenix wrote:

My fellow Caldari Scouts, please read this thread I posted in the Technical Support/Bugs section.

I have tested it multiple times and proved that our new "Caldari Scout Range Bonus" is not working.

We need to hound CCP to fix this or nothing will be done about it.

Caldari Scout range bonus is not working

Non-bump (even though I'm bumping it) :/

You're hitbox is insanely small. You strafe just right and you are invincible.
The only thing I've noticed that has had a great effect against a strafey cal scout is a mass driver.
Your hitbox is the only damn bonus you need. Be happy. Don't be greedy.

I use cal scout/gal scout with ScR, CR, AR, and amarr commando ScR and basic sentinels with hmgs. I have zero problem killing cal scouts. You should get good.

I am just saying...

The most effective way I have found to kill a cal scout is with a mass driver.

Cal scouts have a brown hit box (duh, I know) "zero problem" killing cal scouts. Idk why this bugs me but I just have to say you're clearly lying. You might... MIGHT have ONE problem killing them. Maybe, idk...

You may really have no problem killing them and you're just the best damn guy to ever play Dust 514.

Gun control is not about guns...it's about control. The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.

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Izlare Lenix Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 879	Posted - 2014.08.23 20:52:00 - [1] - Quote My fellow Caldari Scouts, please read this thread I posted in the Technical Support/Bugs section. I have tested it multiple times and proved that our new "Caldari Scout Range Bonus" is not working. We need to hound CCP to fix this or nothing will be done about it. Caldari Scout range bonus is not working Gun control is not about guns...it's about control. The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2160	Posted - 2014.08.24 00:59:00 - [2] - Quote Bump for visibility "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
Zindorak 1.U.P 667	Posted - 2014.08.24 01:01:00 - [3] - Quote You don't need it anyway. you have broken hitbox to compensate Pokemon master! CCP undo ScP nerf. It hurt my feering very bad
Thumb Green Raymond James Corp 1284	Posted - 2014.08.24 01:05:00 - [4] - Quote Zindorak wrote: You don't need it anyway. you have broken hitbox to compensate Well they're supposed to have it and you can't really hold the broken hitbox / hit detection against them; both are CCP's fault and both should be fixed as soon as possible. At the RJC we don't kick ass, we kick dick and we kick it hard. Kill Scotty
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2160	Posted - 2014.08.24 01:13:00 - [5] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: Zindorak wrote: You don't need it anyway. you have broken hitbox to compensate Well they're supposed to have it and you can't really hold the broken hitbox / hit detection against them; both are CCP's fault and both should be fixed as soon as possible. This^^^ The hotbox is an entirely different issue -0 SP in Cal Scouts "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
Tectonic Fusion 2052	Posted - 2014.08.24 01:17:00 - [6] - Quote Please make a list of cal scout players who have the glitch. All the cal scout players I have encounter (so far...I have only been playing 1.8 a week after release) die the same unless they stack armor. (GIF)
Thumb Green Raymond James Corp 1286	Posted - 2014.08.24 01:28:00 - [7] - Quote Edit. My mind isn't working right at the moment. At the RJC we don't kick ass, we kick dick and we kick it hard. Kill Scotty
Jack 3enimble Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 228	Posted - 2014.08.24 15:39:00 - [8] - Quote bump
Sylwester Dziewiecki Interregnum. 360	Posted - 2014.08.24 16:44:00 - [9] - Quote Jack 3enimble wrote: bump OP made mistake. Base Dropsuit scan range + all % from skills and items with penalty added to them = total range. Not: 20m (Scout Base Scan range) x 150% (Range Amplification Skill) = 30m x 150% (Caldari Scout Range Bonus) = 45m x 145% (Single Complex Range amp, no stacking penalty) = 65.25m x 139% (Second Complex Range amp with 1st level stacking penalty) = 90.7m. If you would add each lvl of Range Amplification Skill it will give you much higer number.. :/ 20m +10%(for lvl1) = 22+10% = 24.2 +10% = 26.42 +10%= 29.062+10%= 31.9682 See, that is why we collect all % numbers first, like this: 20+184%=56.8 Gallente Speed Scout. EVE side of me: Nosum Hseebnrido
Jack 3enimble Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 228	Posted - 2014.08.24 17:23:00 - [10] - Quote Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: Jack 3enimble wrote: bump OP made mistake. Base Dropsuit scan range + all % from skills and items with penalty added to them = total range. Not: 20m (Scout Base Scan range) x 150% (Range Amplification Skill) = 30m x 150% (Caldari Scout Range Bonus) = 45m x 145% (Single Complex Range amp, no stacking penalty) = 65.25m x 139% (Second Complex Range amp with 1st level stacking penalty) = 90.7m. If you would add each lvl of Range Amplification Skill it will give you much higer number.. :/ 20m +10%(for lvl1) = 22+10% = 24.2 +10% = 26.42 +10%= 29.062+10%= 31.9682 See, that is why we collect all % numbers first, like this: 20+184%=56.8 Maybe you're right, doesn't take away that it's not working though

Izlare Lenix Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 893	Posted - 2014.08.24 18:16:00 - [11] - Quote Jack 3enimble wrote: Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: Jack 3enimble wrote: bump OP made mistake. Base Dropsuit scan range + all % from skills and items with penalty added to them = total range. Not: 20m (Scout Base Scan range) x 150% (Range Amplification Skill) = 30m x 150% (Caldari Scout Range Bonus) = 45m x 145% (Single Complex Range amp, no stacking penalty) = 65.25m x 139% (Second Complex Range amp with 1st level stacking penalty) = 90.7m. If you would add each lvl of Range Amplification Skill it will give you much higer number.. :/ 20m +10%(for lvl1) = 22+10% = 24.2 +10% = 26.42 +10%= 29.062+10%= 31.9682 See, that is why we collect all % numbers first, like this: 20+184%=56.8 Maybe you're right, doesn't take away that it's not working though He is not right Jack. As far as I know the math I listed is how the skills add up. Even Protofits.com agrees with my math as you can see in this screenshoot I took with a Cal CK.0 and two range amps. http://i.imgur.com/3lXJSdC.jpg Protofits.com clearly shows the Cal Ck.0 with LVL 5 Cal Scout and LVL 5 Range Amplification should have a base scan radius of 45m and with two complex range amps, the Cal Scout should scan out to 90.77m. My math is correct and my point is correct also, the Caldari Scout Range Bonus is not applying in game. Gun control is not about guns...it's about control. The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
Zindorak 1.U.P 667	Posted - 2014.08.24 23:18:00 - [12] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: Zindorak wrote: You don't need it anyway. you have broken hitbox to compensate Well they're supposed to have it and you can't really hold the broken hitbox / hit detection against them; both are CCP's fault and both should be fixed as soon as possible. Jk jk Pokemon master! CCP undo ScP nerf. It hurt my feering very bad
Shutter Fly Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 416	Posted - 2014.08.24 23:25:00 - [13] - Quote Thanks for getting this out there, OP. I'm planning on testing all of the scanning numbers tonight with a corpmate, this should cut down on the workload quite a bit and probably saved us a lot of confusion.
Izlare Lenix Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 895	Posted - 2014.08.25 17:26:00 - [14] - Quote Bump for visibility. Still waiting on response from CCP. Gun control is not about guns...it's about control. The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
Zindorak 1.U.P 673	Posted - 2014.08.25 17:29:00 - [15] - Quote How is the cal scout i might skill into it Pokemon master! CCP undo ScP nerf. It hurt my feering very bad
2Berries Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 240	Posted - 2014.08.25 17:49:00 - [16] - Quote Bump, much interest here. I'll open a ticket & see what Archduke has to say. Last response from a help ticket instruted me to look to the forums for insight. Stomach still kinda sore from the lolz. Burning through clones like Rusty Venture.
Izlare Lenix Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 897	Posted - 2014.08.26 11:52:00 - [17] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Found the issue. It appears that the scan range bonus is only applying as a 3% per level instead of 10%. We'll fix this. Rejoice fellow Cal scouts, CCP Logibro has found the issue and they will be fixing it. My thanks goes to him for quickly figuring out the what the problem was. Gun control is not about guns...it's about control. The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
Happy Violentime OMFGZOMBIESRUN 785	Posted - 2014.08.26 13:25:00 - [18] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Found the issue. It appears that the scan range bonus is only applying as a 3% per level instead of 10%. We'll fix this. Rejoice fellow Cal scouts, CCP Logibro has found the issue and they will be fixing it. My thanks goes to him for quickly figuring out the what the problem was. Awesome stuff! I remember my first game after hotfix Charlie my cal scout was so blind sadface
ZB DeLong Nyain San 66	Posted - 2014.08.28 21:24:00 - [19] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: My fellow Caldari Scouts, please read this thread I posted in the Technical Support/Bugs section. I have tested it multiple times and proved that our new "Caldari Scout Range Bonus" is not working. We need to hound CCP to fix this or nothing will be done about it. Caldari Scout range bonus is not working Non-bump (even though I'm bumping it) :/ You're hitbox is insanely small. You strafe just right and you are invincible. The only thing I've noticed that has had a great effect against a strafey cal scout is a mass driver. Your hitbox is the only damn bonus you need. Be happy. Don't be greedy. Been fighting this war since beta. When can I go home and see my family again? Will I survive this brutality? :)
Izlare Lenix Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 904	Posted - 2014.08.28 21:35:00 - [20] - Quote ZB DeLong wrote: Izlare Lenix wrote: My fellow Caldari Scouts, please read this thread I posted in the Technical Support/Bugs section. I have tested it multiple times and proved that our new "Caldari Scout Range Bonus" is not working. We need to hound CCP to fix this or nothing will be done about it. Caldari Scout range bonus is not working Non-bump (even though I'm bumping it) :/ You're hitbox is insanely small. You strafe just right and you are invincible. The only thing I've noticed that has had a great effect against a strafey cal scout is a mass driver. Your hitbox is the only damn bonus you need. Be happy. Don't be greedy. I use cal scout/gal scout with ScR, CR, AR, and amarr commando ScR and basic sentinels with hmgs. I have zero problem killing cal scouts. You should get good. Gun control is not about guns...it's about control. The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.

Shiyou Hidiyoshi Ancient Exiles. 899	Posted - 2014.08.28 21:39:00 - [21] - Quote Hm... Makes me wonder what else isn't working correctly that we don't know about.
iliel 0uter.Heaven 141	Posted - 2014.08.28 22:23:00 - [22] - Quote I'm still not scanning single damped Gal/Cal scouts at 90 meters with double range and quad precision. Please double check the fix made: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=173729&p=2.
Kaze Eyrou Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 522	Posted - 2014.08.28 22:27:00 - [23] - Quote CCP LogiBro wrote: Found the issue. It appears that the scan range bonus is only applying as a 3% per level instead of 10%. We'll fix this. Nice observations, legwork, and reporting. Good job. Closed Beta Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou
Kaze Eyrou Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 522	Posted - 2014.08.28 22:28:00 - [24] - Quote iliel wrote: I'm still not scanning single damped Gal/Cal scouts at 90 meters with double range and quad precision. Please double check the fix made: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=173729&p=2. 404 Closed Beta Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou
ZB DeLong Nyain San 82	Posted - 2014.08.28 22:31:00 - [25] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: ZB DeLong wrote: Izlare Lenix wrote: My fellow Caldari Scouts, please read this thread I posted in the Technical Support/Bugs section. I have tested it multiple times and proved that our new "Caldari Scout Range Bonus" is not working. We need to hound CCP to fix this or nothing will be done about it. Caldari Scout range bonus is not working Non-bump (even though I'm bumping it) :/ You're hitbox is insanely small. You strafe just right and you are invincible. The only thing I've noticed that has had a great effect against a strafey cal scout is a mass driver. Your hitbox is the only damn bonus you need. Be happy. Don't be greedy. I use cal scout/gal scout with ScR, CR, AR, and amarr commando ScR and basic sentinels with hmgs. I have zero problem killing cal scouts. You should get good. I am just saying... The most effective way I have found to kill a cal scout is with a mass driver. Cal scouts have a brown hit box (duh, I know) "zero problem" killing cal scouts. Idk why this bugs me but I just have to say you're clearly lying. You might... MIGHT have ONE problem killing them. Maybe, idk... You may really have no problem killing them and you're just the best damn guy to ever play Dust 514. Been fighting this war since beta. When can I go home and see my family again? Will I survive this brutality? :)
Izlare Lenix Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 907	Posted - 2014.08.28 23:30:00 - [26] - Quote ZB DeLong wrote: Izlare Lenix wrote: ZB DeLong wrote: Izlare Lenix wrote: My fellow Caldari Scouts, please read this thread I posted in the Technical Support/Bugs section. I have tested it multiple times and proved that our new "Caldari Scout Range Bonus" is not working. We need to hound CCP to fix this or nothing will be done about it. Caldari Scout range bonus is not working Non-bump (even though I'm bumping it) :/ You're hitbox is insanely small. You strafe just right and you are invincible. The only thing I've noticed that has had a great effect against a strafey cal scout is a mass driver. Your hitbox is the only damn bonus you need. Be happy. Don't be greedy. I use cal scout/gal scout with ScR, CR, AR, and amarr commando ScR and basic sentinels with hmgs. I have zero problem killing cal scouts. You should get good. I am just saying... The most effective way I have found to kill a cal scout is with a mass driver. Cal scouts have a brown hit box (duh, I know) "zero problem" killing cal scouts. Idk why this bugs me but I just have to say you're clearly lying. You might... MIGHT have ONE problem killing them. Maybe, idk... You may really have no problem killing them and you're just the best damn guy to ever play Dust 514. I think the biggest problem is people try to use anti armor weapons to kill cal scouts. If you use a ScR or AR a cal scout will melt. Also, personally I find my Gal scout is much more survivable than my Cal scout but that could just be me. Either way I don't notice any difference in the difficulty to kill a cal scout versus any other scout regardless of what weapon or suit I am using. The whole idea that cal scouts are harder to kill is BS from my point of view. And the whole hit box/broken hit detection rumors scout the cal scout have been disproved. Gun control is not about guns...it's about control. The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.


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