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bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 1021	Posted - 2014.08.23 02:46:00 - [1] - Quote What is planned for the future? Currently you pretty much have to no-life this game and farm districts, farm ambush matches and exploit the game's weaknesses to get anywhere in PC. That's right. NOT the players' weaknesses, but the GAME'S weaknesses. PC matches have ALWAYS been about this. With all the ISK they get from farming they can hire the people who know how to exploit the game the best. I personally am starting to think there is a problem with Scouts. Scouts are the key to winning PC matches right now. They get the objective faster, they respond to a changing battle situation faster, and they fight better because they have EWAR. I feel like shared passive scans are the biggest problem. I also feel like Scouts should get an EWAR nerf across the board to bring them back closer to the level of Assaults and Logis, and that Assaults deserve an EWAR buff. Or maybe just the latter. *Eternal Beings* - #76 in All Time WP - #90 in All Time Kills. Member since day one, 10 months ago.
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 1021	Posted - 2014.08.23 04:17:00 - [2] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Do you even PC bro? The first role of scouts is to get links down for the heavies, then to slay people on point or roam..thats what they're designed for. Heavies hold everything down, and assaults are now the real slayers, though there are currently very few because everyone specced scout or heavy. i highly doubt assaults are the real slayers when a scout is around. your assault will never see him coming No, I don't PC anymore, I used to. I stopped because I got sick of the way things work. It's stupid. *Eternal Beings* - #76 in All Time WP - #90 in All Time Kills. Member since day one, 10 months ago.
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 1027	Posted - 2014.08.25 11:20:00 - [3] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: You have to farm districts? you have to farm ambush matches?ou have to exploit weaknesses? I think all of these are incorrect and would love to see evidence that these are true. I do think PC requires an element of no life'ing from leadership, but if your player pool is larger your players can swap out and not need to. Why don't you provide the evidence? You're the one who's on the only side that can disprove it. Don't try and tell me you don't pay your PC players ISK. At the very least, you are not getting clone packs from pub taxes alone. Even if your alliance doesn't attack each other (which they do) the corp with the most districts makes the most ISK, which gives it the most clones and the most power. I guess you are trying to say the sheer number of members you have is your strength. Well the system the way it is, is still a power struggle between the rich and the poor that the poor cannot win. CCP allows you to have a monopoly over PC and I think the whole thing is just pointless. Quote: Can you elaborate? Listen I don't know exactly how the inner circles work and I don't care. All I know is you guys come into pubs and stomp everyone, and it ruins the game for a lot of people. CCP is too lazy to put a stop to it. The big names in Molden Heath are usually the ones who proto stomp. Quote: Umm? I think this still needs to be proven. Your guess is as good as mine. I don't know anyone with insider information on these new corps that are the same old Molden Heath powerhouses, just with new names. Quote: PC is definitely a very small small amount of the general playerbase. You missed my point. It should be open to a larger portion of the players. CCP focuses on the needs of the few instead of the needs of the many. You are in fact exacerbating the point I'm trying to make. If PC is a very small percentage of the players then why is CCP allowing them to ruin the game by proto stomping? *Eternal Beings* - #76 in All Time WP - #90 in All Time Kills. Member since day one, 10 months ago.
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 1028	Posted - 2014.08.25 13:39:00 - [4] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: No the real slayers are, and always will be, heavies. Sure you have a few like TTW and others who are OG slayer scouts who have been shotgunning and nova knifing with their suit from the beginning, but its really heavies more than anything else, with some assaults for the people who have them skilled (amarr and minmitar in particular) slaying on the float points Nah. Amarr and Gallente are nothing without their Logi support, and Cal and Min are too dependent on health regen (or suicide ganking). Plus they're all slow and easy to target, even in city maps. And to be honest I don't see why Gallente or Caldari assault would be worth a ** with the horrible racial weapon bonus. Sure, Amarr and Minmatar are more viable now, but they were still viable before the HP buff in my opinion. Eternal Beings** - #76 in All Time WP - #90 in All Time Kills. Member since day one, 10 months ago.
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 1042	Posted - 2014.08.27 17:06:00 - [5] - Quote Ryme Intrinseca wrote: So scouts should be exactly like assaults, but with much lower HP? They are SCOUTS, they are made for scouting, for seeing reds (and showing blues where they are). No. I made a thread after studying the EWAR profiles of all dropsuits. Basically, even if an Assault has level 5 precision it still can't scan the Scout's default profile even if it doesn't have a single point into dampening; it works the same way for Assault's dampening. I think that's overpowered and one of the reasons that Assault is IMO not as good of a choice as Scout. I think the spectrum between EWAR abilities of lights, mediums and heavies should be thinned. Zatara, look. You know just as well as I do that the massive amounts of ISK players in corps like Nyain San and yours make fuels the fact that those players use full proto EVERY SINGLE TIME THEY SPAWN. Stop trying to deny that exploiting the game doesn't massively benefit the big name PC corps. Stop trying to tell me that 1.U.P. pulling the same ** that NS did, spawn killing the entire 50 clone ambush team right as the battle starts because CCP is dumb enough to put both teams right next to each other... stop trying to tell me that's not a problem because it is. I might as well drop this conversation where it is because the LP store buff is counterbalancing the huge gap between the rich corps and normal players. Pretty soon the intelligent people who figure it out will be able to run proto for the majority of most pub matches because it cuts the cost of a proto suit by at least 1/3. I feel sorry for the Commandos and new types of Scouts in fact. Eternal Beings** - #76 in All Time WP - #90 in All Time Kills. Member since day one, 10 months ago.
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 1042	Posted - 2014.08.27 17:25:00 - [6] - Quote whatever i am sitting here complaining about the tactics of people in a game of mercenaries i just get tired of the circlejerk of high profile players who could ring for a fat sum of ISK because they *** themselves out. this whole argument i'm making boils down to my own insecurities of hating people who try to look better than everyone else and set themselves up to be popular with their ego mind trips all that i'm reacting to is your notions that big name PC players have just as hard of a time making ISK as anyone else which is a big steaming pile of BS. all they have to do is grace other mercs with their presence and the shower of ass kissing begins. you are trying to pass me off as naive and i am not so easily fooled Eternal Beings** - #76 in All Time WP - #90 in All Time Kills. Member since day one, 10 months ago.
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 1042	Posted - 2014.08.27 18:02:00 - [7] - Quote Again I think the Assault's relationship to Scouts is not working as intended and needs to be fixed as well as the shared tacnet scans a Scout provides. When I run Gal Logi I feel vastly inferior to scouts because when I try to emulate their ability to CONSTANTLY SCAN I find myself unable to do much of anything else besides keep my distance from the enemy (and occasionally hunt down scouts or stragglers). I think you should have to work as hard as an active scanner user to be able to share your scans, not just casually do it while fattening up your KDR and dominating the battlefield single handedly. *Eternal Beings* - #76 in All Time WP - #90 in All Time Kills. Member since day one, 10 months ago.
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 1042	Posted - 2014.08.27 18:27:00 - [8] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Take your WR thread. I'm quite positive you will get very few takers on hiring you from OH, FA, or PE, or places like that. Not because you're a bad player, but because ~~no one knows who you are~~ Scouts are better than Gal Logis. Fixed. *Eternal Beings* - #76 in All Time WP - #90 in All Time Kills. Member since day one, 10 months ago.
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 1042	Posted - 2014.08.27 18:38:00 - [9] - Quote el OPERATOR wrote: I too think scout frames need final adjustment, my laserfocus is on that 2nd equipment slot personally. I do not think shared passive scanning is the level of "problem" people describe. Truth is we ALL share our tacnet info, but the range is limited to the scale of the viewer. If my squad's scout is on the other side of the map it doesn't matter what he transmits to my tacnet since my tacnet (without range amps) is only good for 20-30m. If he stays close, we, its a TW element to be able to benefit from his scan, just like he benefits being in range of my repper and within the protective suppression of our heavy eyc etc etc. i actually just learned this myself so you're probably right that it's not as big of a problem but consider this. why is an Assault's scan radius as bad as a heavy's? scout has 20 default, assault 10. why doesn't assault get 15? furthermore why is the scout exponentially better at EWAR than the assault? it's like EWAR in a category of its own that no other dropsuit but the scout can compete in. whereas every suit can damage tank, HP tank, rep tank, and now the Min Heavy can even speed tank... why shouldn't Assault be able to use EWAR? the numbers are so terrible that if they were buffed slightly there wouldn't be much of an impact on scouts. they'd probably have to counterbalance the Minmatar scout along with Assault but other than that none of the other scouts would be burdened by it... to compete with scouts the assault would still have to sacrifice tank *Eternal Beings* - #76 in All Time WP - #90 in All Time Kills. Member since day one, 10 months ago.
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 1046	Posted - 2014.08.27 20:19:00 - [10] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: only amarr scouts are targeted for our PC's what for the scans? lol gallente does nearly as good while being invisible and a slaying machine at the same time *Eternal Beings* - #76 in All Time WP - #90 in All Time Kills. Member since day one, 10 months ago.

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