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Heathen Bastard
The Bastard Brigade
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Posted - 2014.08.22 20:25:00 -
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****ing all over dust players.
http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/muryia-mordu-issues-operation-highlander-decoration/
Bittervets... Remember that? How the caldari stomped the ground battle? CCP wants to forget. CCP wants to sweep dust under the rug.
CCP "logic": Why fix something when we can &^%$ all over everyone who believed in us.
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Jacques Cayton II
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
882
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Posted - 2014.08.22 20:33:00 -
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To bad we mercs don't get anything I remember the event it was fun I loved fighting for the state I understand we don't get medals but at least mention us put the names on a satellite near Caldari Prime special weapons or suits could a gave us some recognition. Oh how mercs have been forgotten
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
3134
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Posted - 2014.08.22 20:36:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:To bad we mercs don't get anything I remember the event it was fun I loved fighting for the state I understand we don't get medals but at least mention us put the names on a satellite near Caldari Prime special weapons or suits could a gave us some recognition. Oh how mercs have been forgotten
Nameless soldiers are soldiers without names.
You are nothing.
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Heathen Bastard
The Bastard Brigade
1548
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Posted - 2014.08.22 20:38:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:To bad we mercs don't get anything I remember the event it was fun I loved fighting for the state I understand we don't get medals but at least mention us put the names on a satellite near Caldari Prime special weapons or suits could a gave us some recognition. Oh how mercs have been forgotten Nameless soldiers are soldiers without names. You are nothing. Maybe in Legion.
Yeah, like legion's ever coming out.
and if it does, it'll be just as ****ty as dust. probably worse.
CCP "logic": Why fix something when we can &^%$ all over everyone who believed in us.
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jenza aranda
BetaMax.
3540
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Posted - 2014.08.22 20:42:00 -
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Many brave soldiers lost their lives that day, some of them more than once!
We will remember their biomass.
Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
17358
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Posted - 2014.08.22 20:47:00 -
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Whatever side winning doesn't really mean much when you couldn't pick which side you deployed on... Everyone deployed on opposite sides. And the real battle was in space, anyway.
Not sure why this is so terrible. DUST players got items for participating. EVE players didn't get items for a while because of server awkwardness. Now they've gotten them. Why is that relevant to DUST?
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
'Lucent Echelon' - Gallente FW channel
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Heathen Bastard
The Bastard Brigade
1549
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Posted - 2014.08.22 20:54:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Whatever side winning doesn't really mean much when you couldn't pick which side you deployed on... Everyone deployed on opposite sides. And the real battle was in space, anyway.
Not sure why this is so terrible. DUST players got items for participating. EVE players didn't get items for a while because of server awkwardness. Now they've gotten them. Why is that relevant to DUST?
We participated and they're acting like we don't exist.
And actually it was a coordinated effort for the caldari to carry the ground game, with awoxing players on the gallente and team stacks on the caldari side.
CCP "logic": Why fix something when we can &^%$ all over everyone who believed in us.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
16216
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Posted - 2014.08.22 21:06:00 -
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We don't have a medal system.
Also quite a few caldari were protesting Tibus Heth after all he just did recently tried to wipe us out a month before.
CPM 0 Secretary, CPM 1 Elect
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
17360
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Posted - 2014.08.22 21:06:00 -
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Heathen Bastard wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Whatever side winning doesn't really mean much when you couldn't pick which side you deployed on... Everyone deployed on opposite sides. And the real battle was in space, anyway.
Not sure why this is so terrible. DUST players got items for participating. EVE players didn't get items for a while because of server awkwardness. Now they've gotten them. Why is that relevant to DUST? We participated and they're acting like we don't exist. And actually it was a coordinated effort for the caldari to carry the ground game, with awoxing players on the gallente and team stacks on the caldari side.
You missed the point entirely.
This is an overdue EVE reward for their participation. You got a reward for your participation, but the live events team have only just gotten around to issuing these.
'Oh no, the capsuleers got a ribbon! We're being ignored even though we got given stuff too!'
And lol @ your idea of the ground game being 'carried' by the Caldari. There was no significant awoxing or team stacking - nobody had any control what team they were put on and there was no friendly fire. If you actually did manage a consistent, co-ordinated campaign while the Gallenteans did not you did horrendously, because that margin was wafer thin.
They're not acting like you don't exist. They're acknowledging the EVE players for their participation in the EVE side because they hadn't done it previously. The DUST players already got their rewards.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
'Lucent Echelon' - Gallente FW channel
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Heathen Bastard
The Bastard Brigade
1549
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Posted - 2014.08.22 21:13:00 -
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so you're saying people checking what team they're on and repeatedly suiciding to waste clones on gallente side didn't have any effect? That coordinated protostomps on caldari vs token blues on gallente side is a "wafer-thin" margin? I would really like whatever drugs you're on because they're probably key to several breakthroughs in medicine(due to their strength)
Sorry. but gallente lost the ground battle handily. and that's being nice.
CCP "logic": Why fix something when we can &^%$ all over everyone who believed in us.
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ReGnYuM
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
Negative-Feedback
3188
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Posted - 2014.08.22 21:15:00 -
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Guess we no longer have any effect on eve lore or the universe itself 
Escrow Removal and Acquisition- Our ERA has only just begun...
Gym Bro/ Meat Head -- CrossFit enthusiast
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
17361
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Posted - 2014.08.22 21:29:00 -
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Heathen Bastard wrote:so you're saying people checking what team they're on and repeatedly suiciding to waste clones on gallente side didn't have any effect? That coordinated protostomps on caldari vs token blues on gallente side is a "wafer-thin" margin? I would really like whatever drugs you're on because they're probably key to several breakthroughs in medicine(due to their strength)
Sorry. but gallente lost the ground battle handily. and that's being nice.
Hahahahaha, 'handily beaten'. It was a margin of about 5%.
And 'co-ordinated protostomps'? Were you actually there? Few people had proto gear two months in.
I guess you're on quite a few of those drugs yourself. I won't pretend they have a medicinal use though, those must be quite hallucinogenic.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
'Lucent Echelon' - Gallente FW channel
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Heathen Bastard
The Bastard Brigade
1549
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Posted - 2014.08.22 21:33:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Heathen Bastard wrote:so you're saying people checking what team they're on and repeatedly suiciding to waste clones on gallente side didn't have any effect? That coordinated protostomps on caldari vs token blues on gallente side is a "wafer-thin" margin? I would really like whatever drugs you're on because they're probably key to several breakthroughs in medicine(due to their strength)
Sorry. but gallente lost the ground battle handily. and that's being nice. Hahahahaha, 'handily beaten'. It was a margin of about 5%. And 'co-ordinated protostomps'? Were you actually there? Few people had proto gear two months in. I guess you're on quite a few of those drugs yourself. I won't pretend they have a medicinal use though, those must be quite hallucinogenic.
5% of one of the biggest events in all of dust's history. pretty damn handily.
and the people who had proto gear at that point? pretty damn coordinated.
CCP "logic": Why fix something when we can &^%$ all over everyone who believed in us.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
17362
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Posted - 2014.08.22 21:39:00 -
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Quote:
and the people who had proto gear at that point? pretty damn coordinated.
Except they weren't there.  As I told you, get off those shrooms.
Heathen Bastard wrote:
5% of one of the biggest events in all of dust's history. pretty damn handily.
When people win matches by a margin of 5%, they go 'Oh damn, that was close'.
Want to talk large scale? Even in large scale surveys with hundreds of points of data, a 5% margin is dismissed as insignificant. In a system where people couldn't even pick their sides, such a low margin is well within what would be expected statistically from evenly matched sides.
If you want an actual example of large scale stomping, look at the warzone now. You'll notice that the Federation holds well over twice the number of districts that the State do. That's 'stomping'.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
'Lucent Echelon' - Gallente FW channel
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Heathen Bastard
The Bastard Brigade
1549
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Posted - 2014.08.22 21:42:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Quote:
and the people who had proto gear at that point? pretty damn coordinated.
Except they weren't there. As I told you, get off those shrooms. Heathen Bastard wrote:
5% of one of the biggest events in all of dust's history. pretty damn handily.
When people win matches by a margin of 5%, they go 'Oh damn, that was close'. Want to talk large scale? Even in large scale surveys with hundreds of points of data, a 5% margin is dismissed as insignificant. In a system where people couldn't even pick their sides, such a low margin is well within what would be expected statistically from evenly matched sides. If you want an actual example of large scale stomping, look at the warzone now. You'll notice that the Federation holds well over twice the number of districts that the State do. That's 'stomping'.
oooh, so you got the lions share of idiots who'll stick with a **** company who stabs them in the back. Congrats?
You seem awful salty about losing the largest(and only, really) integrated story event in dust's short history.
CCP "logic": Why fix something when we can &^%$ all over everyone who believed in us.
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vincent FF7 514
sephiroth clones
11
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Posted - 2014.08.22 21:44:00 -
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We are Dust mercenaries. We play Dust 514. We play on PS3. EVE players and CCP dont give a **** about us. We are the slow kid in the back of the class everyone forgets to bring along. |
vincent FF7 514
sephiroth clones
11
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Posted - 2014.08.22 21:46:00 -
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Heathen Bastard wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Quote:
and the people who had proto gear at that point? pretty damn coordinated.
Except they weren't there. As I told you, get off those shrooms. Heathen Bastard wrote:
5% of one of the biggest events in all of dust's history. pretty damn handily.
When people win matches by a margin of 5%, they go 'Oh damn, that was close'. Want to talk large scale? Even in large scale surveys with hundreds of points of data, a 5% margin is dismissed as insignificant. In a system where people couldn't even pick their sides, such a low margin is well within what would be expected statistically from evenly matched sides. If you want an actual example of large scale stomping, look at the warzone now. You'll notice that the Federation holds well over twice the number of districts that the State do. That's 'stomping'. oooh, so you got the lions share of idiots who'll stick with a **** company who stabs them in the back. Congrats? You seem awful salty about losing the largest(and only, really) integrated story event in dust's short history.
Dont worry about that creature. That thing is not worth a retort |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
17362
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Posted - 2014.08.22 21:50:00 -
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Heathen Bastard wrote:
oooh, so you got the lions share of idiots who'll stick with a **** company who stabs them in the back. Congrats?
Why, I couldn't have described the Caldari better myself.
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You seem awful salty about losing the largest(and only, really) integrated story event in dust's short history.
Eh? Losing?
In case you didn't notice, the Shiigeru went down, along with the entire supporting Caldari fleet as well as the supercapital backup sent in to try and bail them out. Luminaire's Caldari presence suddenly zeroed. That was one hell of a decisive Gallente victory.
You seem awfully upset about not getting a participation ribbon. Although you actually did get one, you probably just forgot about it.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
'Lucent Echelon' - Gallente FW channel
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Heathen Bastard
The Bastard Brigade
1549
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Posted - 2014.08.22 21:51:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Heathen Bastard wrote:
oooh, so you got the lions share of idiots who'll stick with a **** company who stabs them in the back. Congrats?
Why, I couldn't have described the Caldari better myself. Quote:
You seem awful salty about losing the largest(and only, really) integrated story event in dust's short history.
Eh? Losing? In case you didn't notice, the Shiigeru went down, along with the entire supporting Caldari fleet as well as the supercapital backup sent in to try and bail them out. Luminaire's Caldari presence suddenly zeroed. That was one hell of a decisive Gallente victory. You seem awfully upset about not getting a participation ribbon. Although you actually did get one, you probably just forgot about it.
when did I start discussing the space game? we already knew the story for that in advance of the event.(they leaked the titan on fire version of the map before the event even happened)
CCP "logic": Why fix something when we can &^%$ all over everyone who believed in us.
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Jacques Cayton II
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
883
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Posted - 2014.08.22 21:56:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Quote:
and the people who had proto gear at that point? pretty damn coordinated.
Except they weren't there. As I told you, get off those shrooms. Heathen Bastard wrote:
5% of one of the biggest events in all of dust's history. pretty damn handily.
When people win matches by a margin of 5%, they go 'Oh damn, that was close'. Want to talk large scale? Even in large scale surveys with hundreds of points of data, a 5% margin is dismissed as insignificant. In a system where people couldn't even pick their sides, such a low margin is well within what would be expected statistically from evenly matched sides. If you want an actual example of large scale stomping, look at the warzone now. You'll notice that the Federation holds well over twice the number of districts that the State do. That's 'stomping'.
I remember there for awhile Caldari had 90% for like 2 months. Then armor became better than shields. Your trying to sound cool but the fact of the matter is most of the old Caldari players quit awhile back.
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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Jacques Cayton II
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
883
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Posted - 2014.08.22 21:57:00 -
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Heathen Bastard wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Heathen Bastard wrote:
oooh, so you got the lions share of idiots who'll stick with a **** company who stabs them in the back. Congrats?
Why, I couldn't have described the Caldari better myself. Quote:
You seem awful salty about losing the largest(and only, really) integrated story event in dust's short history.
Eh? Losing? In case you didn't notice, the Shiigeru went down, along with the entire supporting Caldari fleet as well as the supercapital backup sent in to try and bail them out. Luminaire's Caldari presence suddenly zeroed. That was one hell of a decisive Gallente victory. You seem awfully upset about not getting a participation ribbon. Although you actually did get one, you probably just forgot about it. when did I start discussing the space game? we already knew the story for that in advance of the event.(they leaked the titan on fire version of the map before the event even happened)
It's is true the hole event was rigged
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
17374
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Posted - 2014.08.22 22:11:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:[
I remember there for awhile Caldari had 90% for like 2 months. Then armor became better than shields. Your trying to sound cool but the fact of the matter is most of the old Caldari players quit awhile back.
"then armor became better than shields"
Completely irrelevant (and subjective, seeing as shields have almost always been a perfectly valid playstyle). If racial gear had a real effect, we could easily argue that the Caldari must have been truly awful to have not utterly dominated FW for a long, long time seeing as rail rifles were for a long time so much better than plasma rifles.
90% for 2 months?
For two weeks, during an event where you got genuinely incentivised to play for the Caldari side.
The rest of the time it's been Gallente 95-100%, all day every day, for a year. Then a system was introduced which made it nigh on impossible to hold more than 75%, so the Gallente have been hovering at that ever since.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
'Lucent Echelon' - Gallente FW channel
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Sgt Kirk
Lucent Echelon
7356
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Posted - 2014.08.22 23:19:00 -
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The Caldari ignorance knows no bounds.
Lucent Echelon -The Brightest Ranks
Gallente Faction Warfare Chanel
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KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
1349
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Posted - 2014.08.22 23:51:00 -
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Heathen Bastard wrote:
Yeah, like legion's ever coming out.
and if it does, it'll be just as ****ty as dust. probably worse.
It will be a little better than Dust514, but not by very much. It is being developed by the same team (that missed so badly with dust), driven by CCP with its own laser focus on EVE Online, they are using their own special version of Unreal 3.5 that is a major factor in the mediocre quality of Dust 514.
Somehow they are the only development team building IP for delivery in the next few years but basing it the older UnReal Engine. Nobody else is developing on it because UE 4 is significantly better, handles multiple cores better (actually uses them). One might suspect it is because they see great promise when comparing the results to using it on PS3s. True a modern PC will give it a boost in single player (on a high end PC) but multi-player over their slow network structure will fail just as it is doing now. I have always suspected that most of their QA is actual devs playing on PCs without having to work against the massively slower network architecture that their customers have to use.
Never forget the basic network structure is dictated by a point and click spreadsheet in space that is EVE Online. The server handles the entire battle and if it is too busy they slow it even further (on purpose) to 90%. And even doing that the game can take multiple minutes to resolve one button click. Other companies improve the servers, CCP slows down the game. Buyer beware.
And so it goes.
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Robocop Junior
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
766
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Posted - 2014.08.22 23:56:00 -
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Eve & CCP can eat my little Asian eggroll.
If strength were all, tiger would not fear scorpion.
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Jacques Cayton II
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
884
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Posted - 2014.08.23 00:01:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:[
I remember there for awhile Caldari had 90% for like 2 months. Then armor became better than shields. Your trying to sound cool but the fact of the matter is most of the old Caldari players quit awhile back. "then armor became better than shields" Completely irrelevant (and subjective, seeing as shields have almost always been a perfectly valid playstyle). If racial gear had a real effect, we could easily argue that the Caldari must have been truly awful to have not utterly dominated FW for a long, long time seeing as rail rifles were for a long time so much better than plasma rifles. 90% for 2 months? For two weeks, during an event where you got genuinely incentivised to play for the Caldari side. The rest of the time it's been Gallente 95-100%, all day every day, for a year. Then a system was introduced which made it nigh on impossible to hold more than 75%, so the Gallente have been hovering at that ever since.
Yeah I'm talking before that event you know when fw first came out and rail rifles, lp, etc were even a factor. And by your logic am mar should have been on fire since the beginning of fw for the uplinks.
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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Pseudogenesis
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
341
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Posted - 2014.08.23 03:16:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Heathen Bastard wrote:
5% of one of the biggest events in all of dust's history. pretty damn handily.
When people win matches by a margin of 5%, they go 'Oh damn, that was close'. Want to talk large scale? Even in large scale surveys with hundreds of points of data, a 5% margin is dismissed as insignificant.
Correction: 4.99999999999% and lower is dismissed as insignificant 
Stabby-stabber extraordinaire
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