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TYCHUS MAXWELL
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Posted - 2014.08.23 18:34:00 -
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Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:I just think that if a vehicle the size of a bus, weighing in probably 5x the weight and shooting a railgun the size of a Volvo you should be able to hear it from about 50m away no matter what your scan range. unless of course HAVs are just a Prius with a beast of a bodykit on it
Sound has always been an issue on this game at least for me. For one you can't hear the footsteps of other suits meaning you can't use that as a heads up when you are off alone on a cliff sniping. Not too mention weapons never sound very consistent to me. If I hear one it could be around the corner or 100 meters away and still sound just as muffled. |
Reign Omega
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.23 18:40:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:For everyone banging on the "point defense" thing with heavies all the time, the hilariously bad scanning doesn't lend well to the role.
Can't even detect a tank at 10 meters half the time.
Combine that with the hilarious inaccurate sound in the game and it usually leads to me being snuck up on by an HAV.
I think by "point defense" they actually mean....inside a building where its safe with your back in a corner so a scout cant knife you or shotgun your anus.
A display of sucking that rivals the highest amount of sucking that a player has displayed in the history of sucking.-JR
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Reign Omega
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.23 18:43:00 -
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J4yne C0bb wrote:Introducing my new lulz fitting: Beverly Hills NinjaYou people are f'ckin dead. Dead, you hear me?
Yo CHILL! All that sneaky makes my eyes obsolete!
A display of sucking that rivals the highest amount of sucking that a player has displayed in the history of sucking.-JR
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
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Posted - 2014.08.23 18:46:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Lloyd Orfay wrote:There are multiple technologies out there that can scan foot soldiers at greater distances than ten meters compared to scanners here.
Worst thing is the best way for a classes in a teamwork based game is make sure all classes have to rely on one another, yet scouts don't need teams at all, or have an actual team based purpose.
Basically very benefited rogues just walking around and exploiting their unbound suit while other players need to rely on each other in one case or another... Not fair. ^^^^ Now this is so true but why aren't anyone else mentioning that ??? Because they use scouts ???
That is mostly a bad player issue. You see scouts capitalize on how awful a team is which is pretty much guaranteed in public matches, to counterbalance their glaring inadequacies. Scouts used to have to flank with their teams but cloaks have made it to where they can hide in corners and wait until they see lone stragglers pop up on their radars to then shotgun/knife them then flee again to a corner. This makes them independent of their team. If there is a squad in your public match that is wrecking face you can just go to where they aren't and capitalize on the blueberries for the match.
In essence, what a scout does well is hold objectives and kill players that are not in the hornet's nest (Where the majority of both teams are fighting.) When your team is terrible, scouts do well, when your team is good scouts do well. Is it fair? Probably not, but much like tanks scouts lobbied for months until they got their buffs. The only real thing in my opinion that needs to be fixed about scouts is their photosensitive cloaks. They should be more visible when moving in bright areas. The slightly blue sheen needs to be consistent but right now the graphic flare or whatever it is overrides the blue sheen in bright areas. Ironically, cloaks are worse in night maps. There is also the disputed issue that the blue sheen may be glitched and may not always show up. I've had scouts on my team run right in front of me and all I could see was a faded outline and a blue chevron. I wouldn't dismiss it myself, we used to have CCP swearing side strafing hadn't been changed until they finally admitted oops we glitched it but kind of like it so we are keeping it. |
P14GU3
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Posted - 2014.08.23 18:58:00 -
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I hear you say scouts and heavies dominate pub matches because most players are horrible -- but why then do they dominate PC matches too?
I only play dust514ums now. It was always more fun than the actual game anyways.
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
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Posted - 2014.08.23 18:59:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:I hear you say scouts and heavies dominate pub matches because most players are horrible -- but why then do they dominate PC matches too?
I don't think you really want me to answer that. |
P14GU3
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Posted - 2014.08.23 19:07:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:P14GU3 wrote:I hear you say scouts and heavies dominate pub matches because most players are horrible -- but why then do they dominate PC matches too? I don't think you really want me to answer that.
I do. I would like to hear you say that some of the best players in this game use scouts and heavies because they are horrible. Then we are just all horrible and your point is moot..
I only play dust514ums now. It was always more fun than the actual game anyways.
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Reign Omega
BurgezzE.T.F
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Posted - 2014.08.23 19:09:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:P14GU3 wrote:I hear you say scouts and heavies dominate pub matches because most players are horrible -- but why then do they dominate PC matches too? I don't think you really want me to answer that. I do. I would like to hear you say that some of the best players in this game use scouts and heavies because they are horrible. Then we are just all horrible and your point is moot..
I think you may have just answered your own question through inception.
A display of sucking that rivals the highest amount of sucking that a player has displayed in the history of sucking.-JR
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P14GU3
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Posted - 2014.08.23 19:57:00 -
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From your reply tychus, it sounds like you havent been in many PCs at all. And definitely not from the glory days of PC. Unlike you seem to assume, many beta players ARE still around (closed beta vet myself here, I can vouch.) My point is, not all PC is super competetive, especially now that not many serious corps are left, but it does still exist. There are still many good players left playing PC, and they use scouts and heavies. Lets say these top 10% even do suck on a general level of FPS, they are by far better players than the majority of the dust players. These guys notoriously flock to FotM (Yes there was even a forge gun FotM in PC) and right now they are running scouts. You cant use the excuse that scouts and heavies are only good in noncompetitive matches, because they are good in all dust matches. So good in fact, that assaults and logis are nonexistant.
I only play dust514ums now. It was always more fun than the actual game anyways.
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