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TYCHUS MAXWELL
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Posted - 2014.08.21 20:11:00 -
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Cassa-Nova wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:
What exactly would that number be 8,9,10?
What about people who reach those manually?
This is exactly why it's needs a harsher ROF cap, because people can and will achieve these values, and absolutely obliterate.
It's that or nerf the damage.
So you're suggestion is to punish players who have skill and learned to master a gun. That's a great way to go about things. Sorry your to good so we have to destroy the thing you've spent months practising with.
This could and has been said by everyone who had their FOTM up for review on these forums. I'll say it again, the closest weapon to the scrambler is the tactical assault rifle. If the ScR is fine where it is then the TAR needs to get its hipfire dispersion, kick, and ROF buffed. It's also ridiculous that the ScR has the same ROF as the assault ScR.
Even with the proposed changes, at least the ones I'm backing, it still has its neiche of being one of two single shot rifles (Not counting the SR) with the unique ability to charge up without any movement penalty for a high alpha shot.
But sure, claim how the ScR is different from the AR, CR, RR, and every other weapon that needed to be toned down because the ScR "Din' do nuffin'!"
Honestly I'm okay with either the ScR getting toned down to the TAR's level or the TAR getting brought up to the ScR's level. I just want some god damn consistency and Rattatai has been delivering bit by bit. |
TYCHUS MAXWELL
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Posted - 2014.08.21 20:31:00 -
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Cassa-Nova wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:
This could and has been said by everyone who had their FOTM up for review on these forums. I'll say it again, the closest weapon to the scrambler is the Tactical assault rifle. If the ScR is fine where it is then the TAR needs to get its hipfire dispersion, kick, and ROF buffed. It's also ridiculous that the ScR has the same ROF as the assault ScR.
Even with the proposed changes, at least the ones I'm backing, it still has its neiche of being one of two single shot rifles (Not counting the SR) with the unique ability to charge up without any movement penalty for a high alpha shot.
But sure, claim how the ScR is different from the AR, CR, RR, and every other weapon that needed to be toned down because the ScR "Din' do nuffin'!"
But when every other FOTM rose to power it was because of a change that CCP made to it or an unintended glitch that didnt get fixed for ages. With this the only this that changed is the META of the game. The scrambler is the same as it's been for months, just because it has gained popularity does not mean it need a nerf. And comparing it to the tac AR is silly, for lack of the better word. the scrambler is a designated single shot rifle with multiple drawbacks where as the Tac AR is a variant of a full auto weapon that also grants access to 3 other varients
As to your first point, when I first started I used Minmitar suits and Caldari was the FOTM for shield tanking. Then armor got buffed and shields were no longer good in comparison as the TTK rose for Gallente and Amarr. Guess what, I got nerfed as minmitar was shield based back then. I had nothing to do with the Caldari FOTM but it turns out tweaking things can have unintended consequences. The ScR hasn't been changed in ages, but all the other rifles have been nerfed. This in effect has buffed the ScR since its remained untouched. Get it?
As to your second bit, the assault scrambler is viable in its own right. All variants are viable in their own right. The TAR should be on the same level as the ScR or at least slightly lower. There's a massive stat gap between the TAR and the ScR and that's not right.
I realize you have a hard on for the ScR and want your FOTM to remain in tact, like I said everyone goes through this when their weapons/gear are the FOTM. If you need help coping, you can join the tankers support group.
Edit: I am only making my tone a little more harsh because you are getting dismissive. Saying it's silly to think the TAR shouldn't be on par with the ScR is not a real argument. When people start to act like illogical children you have to get strict with them. |
TYCHUS MAXWELL
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Posted - 2014.08.21 20:56:00 -
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Cassa-Nova wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:
As to your first point, when I first started I used Minmitar suits and Caldari was the FOTM for shield tanking. Then armor got buffed and shields were no longer good in comparison as the TTK rose for Gallente and Amarr. Guess what, I got nerfed as minmitar was shield based back then. I had nothing to do with the Caldari FOTM but it turns out tweaking things can have unintended consequences. The ScR hasn't been changed in ages, but all the other rifles have been nerfed. This in effect has buffed the ScR since its remained untouched. Get it?
As to your second bit, the assault scrambler is viable in its own right. All variants are viable in their own right. The TAR should be on the same level as the ScR or at least slightly lower. There's a massive stat gap between the TAR and the ScR and that's not right.
I realize you have a hard on for the ScR and want your FOTM to remain in tact, like I said everyone goes through this when their weapons/gear are the FOTM. If you need help coping, you can join the tankers support group.
Its hardly flavour of the month for me, I've had a hardon, as you so eloquently put it, for scramblers since their release, every skill pertaining to it is at lvl 5. It more of the FOTY for me. But you're saying that instead of fixing the original problem that broke the system, you'd rather break something else to balance it. The other rifles got nerfed cause they were in a whole nother league and really they still kind of are. But to say tthat AR variants should be as good as the ScR? your insane. What would be the point of any other rifle when the AR can just surpass them with out the extra SP? No it's main purpose is a Full auto brawler anything else like the TAc and Burst variants should only ever be pale imitations of the true weapons like the Scr and CR respectively. But honestly I have yet to see one argument that is logical and actually proves that the Scrambler is OP.
Alpha charge shot + a few blasts, if you think that's the same as a TAR i'm going to call bs on you having used ScR all this time, or you are a bad player.
Personally, I think you're just acting like the old tanker guys that believed tanks were perfectly balanced in 1.7
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