DUST Search - CCP before you touch the scrambler just read this

CUSE TOWN333 wrote:

Monkey MAC wrote:

Cassa-Nova wrote:

Monkey MAC wrote:

What exactly would that number be 8,9,10?
What about people who reach those manually?

This is exactly why it's needs a harsher ROF cap, because people can and will achieve these values, and absolutely obliterate.
It's that or nerf the damage.

So you're suggestion is to punish players who have skill and learned to master a gun. That's a great way to go about things. Sorry your to good so we have to destroy the thing you've spent months practising with.

I don't think learning to tap a button really fast is 'Mastering a Weapon', mastering the scrambler rifle is stopping as close to the overheat as possible, because that's where you get the most DPS from the weapon.

That's something a ROF cap, doesn't take away.
The ROF cap litterally just stops you shooting at such absurd fire rates, so you can't achieve such ridiculous damage.

Say what you will, give whatever arguements you feel like, but please don't tell me that because I can pull a trigger real fast I have mastered a weapon and am free to wreak havoc on my 'lesser skilled enemies'

when people are talking about skill with the scrambler rifle or mastering the scrambler rifle they aren't really talking about how fast they can spam it before overheat. skilled players understand how to apply the most DPS out of the gun and thats by landing a high % of your shots into the enemies head to be the most effective with there damage output. the difference between when a new play is fighting 2 enemies at once and i am fighting 2 enemies at once is the new player will spam R1 at the first enemiy but probably overheat by the second. when im fighting 2 enemies in my mind its never about how fast i can spam R1 it how fast can i apply all my shots into the enemies head by doing so allows me to have less overheat to kill the 2nd enemy faster. and skilled players understand this and yes it takes a fair amout of skill to land headshots on strafeing targets. this crazy damage some of you people are feeling is a charge shot to your face followed by a fast accurate volley to your face and if done right it will drop you like a bag of hammers and yes this takes skill.

They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank!


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Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3354	Posted - 2014.08.21 18:18:00 - [1] - Quote Groz'zar Kazoku wrote: so the best answer is to make it as useless as the standard sniper? That thing is a joke most assaults and all heavies just laugh and find cover for a second.... I really don't want its rate of fire nerfed. I want a program installed where if button presses of a single button exceed X it denies your controller from being used until you shut it off and restart the controller. It would stop turbo controllers from even being used. The turbo turds are the issue not the scrambler. What exactly would that number be 8,9,10? What about people who reach those manually? This is exactly why it's needs a harsher ROF cap, because people can and will achieve these values, and absolutely obliterate. It's that or nerf the damage. They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3355	Posted - 2014.08.22 09:43:00 - [2] - Quote Cassa-Nova wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: What exactly would that number be 8,9,10? What about people who reach those manually? This is exactly why it's needs a harsher ROF cap, because people can and will achieve these values, and absolutely obliterate. It's that or nerf the damage. So you're suggestion is to punish players who have skill and learned to master a gun. That's a great way to go about things. Sorry your to good so we have to destroy the thing you've spent months practising with. I don't think learning to tap a button really fast is 'Mastering a Weapon', mastering the scrambler rifle is stopping as close to the overheat as possible, because that's where you get the most DPS from the weapon. That's something a ROF cap, doesn't take away. The ROF cap litterally just stops you shooting at such absurd fire rates, so you can't achieve such ridiculous damage. Say what you will, give whatever arguements you feel like, but please don't tell me that because I can pull a trigger real fast I have mastered a weapon and am free to wreak havoc on my 'lesser skilled enemies' They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3357	Posted - 2014.08.22 14:09:00 - [3] - Quote CUSE TOWN333 wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Cassa-Nova wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: What exactly would that number be 8,9,10? What about people who reach those manually? This is exactly why it's needs a harsher ROF cap, because people can and will achieve these values, and absolutely obliterate. It's that or nerf the damage. So you're suggestion is to punish players who have skill and learned to master a gun. That's a great way to go about things. Sorry your to good so we have to destroy the thing you've spent months practising with. I don't think learning to tap a button really fast is 'Mastering a Weapon', mastering the scrambler rifle is stopping as close to the overheat as possible, because that's where you get the most DPS from the weapon. That's something a ROF cap, doesn't take away. The ROF cap litterally just stops you shooting at such absurd fire rates, so you can't achieve such ridiculous damage. Say what you will, give whatever arguements you feel like, but please don't tell me that because I can pull a trigger real fast I have mastered a weapon and am free to wreak havoc on my 'lesser skilled enemies' when people are talking about skill with the scrambler rifle or mastering the scrambler rifle they aren't really talking about how fast they can spam it before overheat. skilled players understand how to apply the most DPS out of the gun and thats by landing a high % of your shots into the enemies head to be the most effective with there damage output. the difference between when a new play is fighting 2 enemies at once and i am fighting 2 enemies at once is the new player will spam R1 at the first enemiy but probably overheat by the second. when im fighting 2 enemies in my mind its never about how fast i can spam R1 it how fast can i apply all my shots into the enemies head by doing so allows me to have less overheat to kill the 2nd enemy faster. and skilled players understand this and yes it takes a fair amout of skill to land headshots on strafeing targets. this crazy damage some of you people are feeling is a charge shot to your face followed by a fast accurate volley to your face and if done right it will drop you like a bag of hammers and yes this takes skill. You see now we are getting somewhere, that's mastery! You don't need a ridiculous ROF for that kind of mastery, that's use the weapons PROS (Charge Shot) to outweigh it's cons. I have absolutely no quarrel with that, in fact I'd probably congratulate you if I ever saw you in action. But you still don't need to be capable of firing 11 shots a second, and that leads to abuse. By controllers and 'l33t' players, who have been doing that kinda thing since FPS's were first invented. They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3