DUST Search - Nova Knives

137H4RGIC wrote:

Lucifalic wrote:

I call BS on the OP for saying he's a proto min scout with fully speced knives... He doesnt even understand how 200 dmg knives becomes enough dmg to kill the heavy. Also saying that scouts shouldnt kill.... WTF buddy are you smoking. Your using a highly specialized suit that gets A BONUS to knife damage. Think about that... really think about it. Knives are an assassination weapon and min scout gets a bonus to it. You follow yet.

So i went to protofits too to even further call your BS. MAXed skills. 3 complex dmg mods, 2 kin kats, profile damp, advanced cloak, advanced RE (cause there is no way basic will kill your sentry), and ish NK. NO NADE, NO SMG.... Know why? cause its already over its PG.

******* BS. You are not skilled into mini scout. Your just a whining heavy who lost a proto suit hacking a point by yourself like a ******.

I've got the enhanced side arm damage mods, bottom is loaded out with code breakers, complex. Trust me, it works. What's worse us that you don't need complex sidearm damage mods to one shot a heavy. But I can only imagine what they can do. And yes I do have a mini scout skilled at five. Using advanced kns. And I still one shot heavies. This doesn't lessen my claim but only validates it further


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Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9100	Posted - 2014.08.21 05:25:00 - [1] - Quote You're ignoring one very critical thing about pure-alpha-damage Minmatar Scouts. They sacrifice a lot of shields to achieve that. I run a maxed out Minmatar Scout as well and attack ONLY with the knives. Despite the fact that I am able to drop a heavy on the first hit, I'm extremely vulnerable. I have no shield mods and fitting armor plates or reactive plates will only slow me down on a suit meant for speed and speed is my only defense. My total EHP is nothing more than 197. That's it. A single mass driver round drunkingly shot at my general direction will wipe me off the face of the map. SMGs can kill me in not even a fraction of a clip. Flaylocks will Fillet me. An LAV grazing me is a death sentence. A fall can potentially paralyze me if the gaming gods someday decide to hate me. I'm sacrificing a lot of protection here just to OHK you. Also, the Min Scout is not known for effectively evading scanners especially EWAR scouts that can see me regardless of my complex profile dampener. As a heavy, you need to stick with your team even if you're a solo player. Statistics always prove that your likelihood of survival increases the longer you stick with the pack. If you have an Amarr Scout or any other player that specialized in countering scouts in your squad, then you're good to go. Therefore, if I managed to get close enough to you, I deserve a chance at OHK-ing you. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9111	Posted - 2014.08.22 03:29:00 - [2] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: [...] I don't care what Webster's Dictionary says about the meaning of the word "scout". I don't care what the real-world military says about how to properly be a scout. I don't care about what YOU say on what a scout can and can't do. You can make a recommendation, but in the end I have every right to do whatever the hell I want as a scout in a video game. Heavies have a right to be on their own without backup, but if they don't know how to cover their own asses without backup when I stab them to death, then I have every right to tell them "stick with a squad, noob". But if that solo heavy can stand its ground against me, than I will respect him/her and be on my merry way. More power to them if they can pull it off as a solo heavy just like how there's more power to me when I can take on a few assaults with a knife in my scout suit. You have a problem with that? Tough luck. Live with it. This is a video game after all and no one will give two ***** about what some dictionary says. Clearly the players in Eve Online don't care when some players have adapted a mining barge to become an effective pvp ship. Clearly, players in Call of Duty don't care if someone complains about them using a sniper rifle like a CQC or mid-range weapon and somehow effectively killing opponents with it like that. Clearly the players in Battlefield don't care if a jeep is being used as a battering ram. I will continue being a scout killing players as a scout with a knife and there is not a damn thing you can do to stop me... except if you're able to see me coming from behind. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9126	Posted - 2014.08.23 05:38:00 - [3] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: Alena Ventrallis wrote: So the suit best at striking fast and hard, is good against a suit that is slow and bricky. Imagine that. basically they will have problems against min-assault as they are like 7.5m/s sprint and 6.5m/s move The infamous back pedaling. The bane of every knifer's existence. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9135	Posted - 2014.08.23 19:06:00 - [4] - Quote 137H4RGIC wrote: Lucifalic wrote: I call BS on the OP for saying he's a proto min scout with fully speced knives... He doesnt even understand how 200 dmg knives becomes enough dmg to kill the heavy. Also saying that scouts shouldnt kill.... WTF buddy are you smoking. Your using a highly specialized suit that gets A BONUS to knife damage. Think about that... really think about it. Knives are an assassination weapon and min scout gets a bonus to it. You follow yet. So i went to protofits too to even further call your BS. MAXed skills. 3 complex dmg mods, 2 kin kats, profile damp, advanced cloak, advanced RE (cause there is no way basic will kill your sentry), and ish NK. NO NADE, NO SMG.... Know why? cause its already over its PG. ***** BS. You are not skilled into mini scout. Your just a whining heavy who lost a proto suit hacking a point by yourself like a ****. I've got the enhanced side arm damage mods, bottom is loaded out with code breakers, complex. Trust me, it works. What's worse us that you don't need complex sidearm damage mods to one shot a heavy. But I can only imagine what they can do. And yes I do have a mini scout skilled at five. Using advanced kns. And I still one shot heavies. This doesn't lessen my claim but only validates it further Regardless, it doesn't nullify the obvious fact that Nova Knifing in a Minmatar Scout suit with pure damage renders the setup extremely vulnerable. There are EWAR scouts out there that can catch it and the Minmatar Scout has no counter to those EWAR scouts other than to sprint away as fast as possible. There is also the fact that you need to be within close proximity (2.5 meters) in order for the knives to effective at all. There is also the tunnel vision to deal with should you miss the target the first time and I sometimes do miss my target but those targets are usually assaults, logis, or other scouts that are as maneuverable as a heavy. There is also the fact that Minmatar Scouts has the lowest CPU/PG availability compared to the rest of the scout lineup. Finally, the aim adhesion that was supposedly added in Hotfix Charlie isn't noticeable to me. And unless you happen to be a damn good solo heavy with an eagle eye (and I have encountered solo heavies that outsmarted me), you need to stick with a squad every time you're a heavy. An Amarr or Caldari scout will always give me hell when it comes to EWAR even with the cloak that I use. Some even counter me with a mass driver which is something I dread a lot almost as much as an EWAR scout. So you see, it all balances out. The Minmatar Scout is exactly where it's suppose to be. All of the advantages it has are easily balanced with the disadvantages it also has. PS: In some instances you do need complex sidearm damage mods to kill a heavy if that heavy happens to be a protobear. And those guys are tough as nails to stab. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9137	Posted - 2014.08.23 19:14:00 - [5] - Quote 137H4RGIC wrote: If I could look behind me instantly, ny situational awareness would be great. Heavies can't easily do their job and always be worrying about a knife in the back from an opponent who moves twice the speed of the heavy. Now as I said, I've played said scout. Killing anyone is super easy with knives, REs. Just get right I their face abd dance around them. Being a kn about isn't hard at all. Especially with REs in hand. All targets except other scout are easy prey. Kinda over powered at that point. Stick with a team then if you're not able to survive as a solo heavy. I have seen solo heavies that outsmarted me and those are the people I tend to give up on because somehow they know how to spot me. I couldn't tell if it's because they saw my shimmer in the shadows or if someone else in the distance that I can't see is looking after him. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9139	Posted - 2014.08.23 20:08:00 - [6] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: 137H4RGIC wrote: Will all the cod knifers please troll this thread. Your opinion matters =). I don't have ease of just killing heavies, but assaults commandos and logis. As I said, did are more difficult for other scouts to kill If we had CoD knives, then you might have the right to this entitled self-promoting crying. However, we don't. I'm sure the CoD Knifers will have claimed that the knives are pathetic. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9140	Posted - 2014.08.23 23:24:00 - [7] - Quote mollerz wrote: 137H4RGIC wrote: I've got the enhanced side arm damage mods, bottom is loaded out with code breakers, complex. Trust me, it works. That's bullshit. Everything in the world can see you. I run that build at match jump and switch out of it ASAP the first chance I get because you are detectable as hell. 137H4RGIC wrote: What's worse us that you don't need complex sidearm damage mods to one shot a heavy. But I can only imagine what they can do. And yes I do have a mini scout skilled at five. Using advanced kns. And I still one shot heavies. This doesn't lessen my claim but only validates it further And again- load of horse ****. You aren't one shotting heavies with ADV knives and no damage mods even with LV5 knives, Prof, and min scout skills. Sorry homey. You lie and then you lose credibility. That's how that works. @mollerz Even if he is using enhanced sidearm damage mods, he's still not able to one-shot heavies with it especially if they are with advanced knives. If he is able to, that means the heavies he's killing aren't skilled-up heavies at all but probably militia-fit heavies with soft tanks or a bunch of newbs that don't know how to properly fit a heavy suit. @137H4RGIC We can mathematically prove to you that no one is capable of one-shotting heavies with advanced knives even on a maxed out Minmatar Scout suit with max skills. Just ask anyone here to do the formula. The formula is pretty well known. This is assuming that the heavies you target are not of the lemming variety. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.