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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.08.23 23:32:00 -
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maluble wrote:The only scout that takes skill to use is minmatar the other three can either hide from everyone on radar or see everyone around them, this is severely flawed.
Give minmatar dampening instead of nova knife damage; I cut heavys just fine with ishys and prof 5.
FRAKK YOU! I want to keep my nova knife bonus.
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2014.08.23 23:39:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:The entire scan mechanic is broken.
They call it scan, but it's a wallhack, in FPS it's a cheat or in other games it's a special bonus achieved for certain actions (kill streak, stun enemy, hack enemy tacnet) but it's always something that doesn't last for long.
I would accept the active scanner nerf, if only they find a way to balance passive permascan, which is actually better than the old active scan, but at the current state of things the whole scan is a legal in game cheat.
It is not... I repeat... it is not a wall hack nor a cheat at all since CCP purposefully implemented the scan in the first place since the very beginning of Dust. I don't care if other games call it a cheat because what happens in other games like CoD, BF, and Halo have absolutely no bearing on Dust. The only game that has any bearing at all on Dust is Eve Online mainly because of the connection with Tranquility and the shared lore between the two games and we all know how Eve players are.
Call it a cheat or hack for all I care. If CCP says it's part of the game, then tough luck for you. Live with it or GTFO.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.08.26 18:00:00 -
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maluble wrote:DozersMouse XIII wrote:maluble wrote:The only scout that takes skill to use is minmatar the other three can either hide from everyone on radar or see everyone around them, this is severely flawed.
Give minmatar dampening instead of nova knife damage; I cut heavys just fine with ishys and prof 5. you are dumb you have 3 lows and 3 highs try some comp damps with ishukone cloak and try some damn precision enhancers No you dumb, my proto has 2 complex damp and 1 complex percision enhancer with proto cloak and I still get you have been scanned, scans and dampening mechanics are broke, And with ishy knives proto 5 no scout bonus you do 920 damage with charge stab if both knives connect, follow that up with a non charge and assuming both blades connect thats another 460= bye bye heavy. I am an original minja and im telling you the knife damage is not needed more ewar is. Let me know when you go 46 and 3 using only knives.
And I'm telling you that more EWAR is not really needed for the Minmatar Scout. The scout is ok where it's at. Also, it sounds to me like you're being scanned by someone who is using the infamous Duvolle Focused Scanner (is that thing still around?) which was known to scan down all scouts except those who specialize in dampening. But considering that the field of vision for the Duvolle scanner is somewhat narrow and that it's now restricted to just taking a snapshot (a major, and overdue, nerf to the Scannerinas), it seems to me you were unlucky enough to be within the direction and range of this particular scanner.
Now I don't know what changes they did to the scanner at this point since I don't use scanners at all, if they made any other changes at all besides the nerf to Scannerinas, but again you just had bad luck. I have been running with nothing more than 1x Complex Profile Dampener, 1x AN-18 Cloak Field, 2x Complex Kinetic Catalyzers, and all Complex Sidearm Damage Mods on the rest of the slots with just an Ishy Knife. I have yet to be scanned by any active scanner and I can avoid most scouts as long as I stick to hiding rather than just running around like a chicken with its head cut off. Of course, if I spot an Amarr or maybe a Gal scout, I run away. Remember, I'm picking my battles here.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.08.26 18:09:00 -
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Aria Gomes wrote:I don't use damps most of the time. But if our knife bonus was to be dropped I'd be furious. Most of the time I run just kincats or a kin/code breaker or maybe a com. damp.
I still do just fine against other scouts with a cloak or damps. If you're fast enough being damped shouldn't matter. As well as listning to your surroundings. If I hear a cloak drop or someone running, I look around quickly or attempt to run off. Maybe you should change your playstyle or pick a different scout. Min isn't about dampening. It's about running around like a fool, swinging knives and taking off just as fast.
Precisely! Exactly my point.
Again, the Minscout is the fastest suit in the game. Nothing can compete with it in terms of speed. A smart scout uses that to their advantage rather than waste slots with too many profile damps on a suit not meant for profile dampening. If a scout sees you, run away. They can't catch up to you because you're sprinting like Jessie Owens. At 10m/s, you're already sprinting a whole football field in 10 seconds flat.
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Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2014.08.27 01:51:00 -
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OZAROW wrote:Lol I recently skilled into minmatar assault, and I've been running 2 or 3 kinetic and knives going 10.3+ with 700 hp with rep hives and damage mods or shield energizers just four laughs because thats minmatar and thats the beauty of the slot layout and stamina re-úen DAMAGE AND SPEED!
THAT'S MINMATAR!
Almost reminds me of the Jaguar or Wolf in Eve Online.
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