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Birdseye Bonnie
Isuuaya Tactical
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.08.18 16:53:00 -
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Hello, I know that assult dropships should be more expensive the the basic dropships, but doesn't anyone think 300k plus all the equipment cost is alittle high?.. |
Alena Ventrallis
Vengeance Unbound
Dark Taboo
1560
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Posted - 2014.08.18 16:55:00 -
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*glances at search button*
Rest in peace, oh Captain, my Captain.
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Crimson ShieId
Psygod9
771
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Posted - 2014.08.18 17:11:00 -
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My pre 1.7 899K tank says hello and laughs at your puny Isk sink. It also cries at no longer existing. My wallet rejoices.
Nova Knives are best sidearm.
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Jack 3enimble
Vengeance Unbound
Dark Taboo
209
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Posted - 2014.08.18 17:31:00 -
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Redline sniping isn't working for you anymore? |
Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1863
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Posted - 2014.08.18 18:46:00 -
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Crimson ShieId wrote:My pre 1.7 899K tank says hello and laughs at your puny Isk sink. It also cries at no longer existing. My wallet rejoices.
"That's cute"
-My pre-1.7 1.2m Python with 1/3 your tank and 1/4 your firepower |
843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
223
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Posted - 2014.08.18 18:49:00 -
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Birdseye Bonnie wrote:Hello, I know that assult dropships should be more expensive the the basic dropships, but doesn't anyone think 300k plus all the equipment cost is alittle high?..
334k isk to be exact
With how easy they are to destroy, they should cost no more then 200k |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
2209
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Posted - 2014.08.18 19:26:00 -
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843-Vika wrote:Birdseye Bonnie wrote:Hello, I know that assult dropships should be more expensive the the basic dropships, but doesn't anyone think 300k plus all the equipment cost is alittle high?.. 334k isk to be exact With how easy they are to destroy, they should cost no more then 200k
By that logic my prototype sentinels need to drop from 130,000-150,000 each to 50,000 each.
I'm sorry but 300 K seems about right for a piece of equipment it takes three forge gun shots to kill in rapid succession
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843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
227
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Posted - 2014.08.18 21:58:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:843-Vika wrote:Birdseye Bonnie wrote:Hello, I know that assult dropships should be more expensive the the basic dropships, but doesn't anyone think 300k plus all the equipment cost is alittle high?.. 334k isk to be exact With how easy they are to destroy, they should cost no more then 200k By that logic my prototype sentinels need to drop from 130,000-150,000 each to 50,000 each. I'm sorry but 300 K seems about right for a piece of equipment it takes three forge gun shots to kill in rapid succession
Yet you bump into it with any militia ds and it goes down in flames on the spot, sorry but try again.
Also after turrets and mods you re looking at over 500k, so yeah the price needs to be cut |
Kaeru Nayiri
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2014.08.18 22:24:00 -
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As an assault dropship pilot, I don't think they should have their price reduced. They are very strong, and become devastating in numbers. We don't need more of them in the air. A regular drop ship is the way to go if you find it too expensive. Just like the difference between an advanced and a prototype fit, the price is often 10x more for small gains. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
2217
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Posted - 2014.08.18 22:38:00 -
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843-Vika wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:843-Vika wrote:Birdseye Bonnie wrote:Hello, I know that assult dropships should be more expensive the the basic dropships, but doesn't anyone think 300k plus all the equipment cost is alittle high?.. 334k isk to be exact With how easy they are to destroy, they should cost no more then 200k By that logic my prototype sentinels need to drop from 130,000-150,000 each to 50,000 each. I'm sorry but 300 K seems about right for a piece of equipment it takes three forge gun shots to kill in rapid succession Yet you bump into it with any militia ds and it goes down in flames on the spot, sorry but try again. Also after turrets and mods you re looking at over 500k, so yeah the price needs to be cut
Yet you hit me with the bumper of a free LAV and I lose my 150k suit. Your argument is irrelevant and invalid.
A militia tank bumps me at 3 KPH in my LAV and I instapop.
A free LAV loaded with RE instapops my tanks (16k for a free jihad jeep suicide fit, Jeep BPO is awesome) |
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Meee One
Hello Kitty Logistics
997
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Posted - 2014.08.19 00:12:00 -
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Birdseye Bonnie wrote:Hello, I know that assult dropships should be more expensive the the basic dropships, but doesn't anyone think 300k plus all the equipment cost is alittle high?..
Can easily destroy millions of isk worth of dropsuits,can't be ran from,thousands of eHP you can just bail from.
Can 2 shot even 1000 armor bricked heavies.
Seems about right.
Was banned for fighting for logistics survival on 7/25/2014 02:11. Logistics will never be respected.
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Crimson ShieId
Psygod9
774
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Posted - 2014.08.19 03:43:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Crimson ShieId wrote:My pre 1.7 899K tank says hello and laughs at your puny Isk sink. It also cries at no longer existing. My wallet rejoices. "That's cute" -My pre-1.7 1.2m Python with 1/3 your tank and 1/4 your firepower
I wish my tank could shoot into the stratosphere with the press of a button 
Ah, if only I'd gotten those proto turrets. I could have won this Isk battle. Very well, you win this round, Python pilot, but I'll be back, and... wait... no I won't. ;~;
Nova Knives are best sidearm.
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taxi bastard
uptown456
Dark Taboo
211
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Posted - 2014.08.19 04:07:00 -
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in a regular pub i find that i am one of the few people ADS pilots have to worry about.
i run an advanced mini commando and either advanced or proto swarms. today i killed 1 ADS only, lots of tanks, some vanilla drop ships and many LAV's but only 1 assault drop ship. being that its rare to see more than 2 people using AV and generally its like shooting fish in a barrel for the ADS piliots when it comes to farming whats on the ground. if they do get shot at, its simply move on to the next area.
if anything i would argue they should cost more. 1 splash of a missile and bang goes a 150K scout fit. 2 splashes and there goes a 200k assault. |
Kallas Hallytyr
Skullbreakers
719
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Posted - 2014.08.19 14:00:00 -
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Well, I see a lot of uninformed views:
- flying an ADS is not easy. Hard to learn? No, but to be good is more than just getting in and shooting missiles. Infantry are essentially pinpricks from the height ADSs can engage at. Then you have to factor in that learning to fly is entirely different to picking up a new gun or suit: you're relearning how to move from the ground up.
- evading AV is definitely a lot more than activate AB and hold L1. Any competent Forge Gunner will knock you out of the sky if you do that because you're a sitting duck going in a straight line. Manoeuvring is perfectly reasonable and obviously extends your time in the enemy's window of engagement (which is fine: personally I want to see the suggested Assault Swarm buff to make it the long range dropship hunter, with improved lock/tracking range but lower damage.) Evading Swarms is relatively simple, but a lone Swarmer is capable of keeping an ADS in check: the impulse effects from Swarms keep a dropship rocking about and making aiming at tiny infantry difficult.
- One thing I distinctly recall when no WP were awarded for damaging vehicles is AV players complaining about how much ISK their suits cost: ADSs don't get points for damaging infantry, and while that's fine, we are still THE most expensive (ISK and SP) role in the game. A reduction from 333k down to 200k (for example) would not mean that ADSs are cheap: it would mean that losing one is still painful and will in all likelihood cause you to go ISK negative in that game, whereas currently you're looking at losing ISK for two battles with the loss of a single ADS.
Really,a price reduction to 200k or 250k would not be unreasonable. They are still the most expensive piece of gear at that point. They are still powerful and they are still vulnerable. Personally, I am glad that the Charlie Python buff did not go through since ADSs are in a good spot. Give us some Swarm variants to engage dropships at a greater range and I think we'll see a lot less bitching.
Alt of Halla Murr.
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TOOMANY NAMES ALREADYTAKEn
Going for the gold
89
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Posted - 2014.08.19 15:25:00 -
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Just round the price up to 300k ISK and everyone's happy.
Shotgunner for life.
EDIT: Scratch that, I love my lasers.
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843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
233
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Posted - 2014.08.19 16:32:00 -
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TOOMANY NAMES ALREADYTAKEn wrote:Just round the price up to 300k ISK and everyone's happy.
They already cost 334k isk so you must be smoking some thuged out ****.
The way Ads can be so easily destroyed to a militia drop ship is completely and totally ********, just a bump from a militia drop ship nd any ads will go down in flames, so forget about worrying aboput enemy av using swarms or a fg, all they neeed is a skillless scrub call in a lilitia drop ship[ and bang your ADS is in a pile of garbage.
That is what is completely bullshit about flying an ADS and CCP copuld care less if you waste over 500k isk on an ADS just to let it gt destroyed not only by a militia drop ship but also by the ****** flying of an RVD. Do you know how many ADS i have lost to an RVD smacking my ADS into a building when it is being called in or simply by another RVD coming in right on the same spot. Yet CCP refuses to change any of that. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
3861
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Posted - 2014.08.19 17:01:00 -
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Enforcer was like 3mil fitted i thnk and was worse than a basic tank
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