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Kiroyale
The Amarr Republic
Tyrgalle Trade Guild
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Posted - 2014.08.18 04:08:00 -
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Everytime i see good players finally get put on my team to help face the other proto stompers they ***** out and leave either on my side or the enemy team. It's pathetic really. You think people retreating to the redline to snipe on a losing team is bad? At least they are staying in the match. At least they have the balls to stay in the same MAP. While more skilled players who complain about snipers are too afraid to even step foot on the same playing field. This is way too common for people to be complaining about cowardly blueberries the way they do. When cowardly no nuts squads are just as frequent. |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
4301
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Posted - 2014.08.18 04:14:00 -
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Why wouldn't people complain about cowardly blueberries?
Level 4 Forum Warrior Very, very bitter vet
PSN: wbrom42
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings
Proficiency V.
926
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Posted - 2014.08.18 04:15:00 -
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I'm just going to put this here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UM5nhmJXYg&list=PLE03F8kPr_F_wrgd9bl_bTpqNU9Q_SKys
Eternal Beings - #76 in All Time WP - #90 in All Time Kills. Member since day one, 10 months ago.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
4301
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Posted - 2014.08.18 04:23:00 -
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I wish I could like this 1000x
Please post this in my thread.
Level 4 Forum Warrior Very, very bitter vet
PSN: wbrom42
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Kiroyale
The Amarr Republic
Tyrgalle Trade Guild
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Posted - 2014.08.18 04:26:00 -
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Yea i did see this video a week or two ago. At least they are all still in the match and sniping at the objective. It's overkill for sure but they kept playing. As bad as they are i have more respect for them than squads who complain about no competition and then haul ass when a good squad actually rolls in. |
bamboo x
Eternal Beings
Proficiency V.
927
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Posted - 2014.08.18 04:32:00 -
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sniper no sniping
Eternal Beings - #76 in All Time WP - #90 in All Time Kills. Member since day one, 10 months ago.
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medomai grey
WarRavens
Final Resolution.
899
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Posted - 2014.08.18 05:14:00 -
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^ This.
Most snipers don't know how to snipe in a manner that is useful for their team. Not saying that there aren't useful snipers, because there are. But majority of snipers are just dead weight that drags the whole team down. It would be a boon if the useless sniper left the match to allow someone to replace them.
What percentile of Dust514's infantry arsenal belongs to the category of machine guns?
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Symbioticforks
Pure Evil.
614
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Posted - 2014.08.18 05:16:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Why wouldn't people complain about cowardly blueberries?
Cowardly players is vitamins for Symbioticforks..
OM NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM OM NOM.
Sniping Dust 514 (video series)
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im squishy
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.08.18 08:36:00 -
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medomai grey wrote:^ This. Most snipers don't know how to snipe in a manner that is useful for their team. Not saying that there aren't useful snipers, because there are. But majority of snipers are just dead weight that drags the whole team down. It would be a boon if the useless sniper left the match to allow someone to replace them.
Pfft like the person replacing them will be any better -_- the hating on snipers is just ridiculous when i see pansy assed no names playing it safe hiding behind **** not pushing on the objectives because "i dont want to ruin my K/D' attitude has kicked in. Seriously if you are worried about your K/D then you need to go back to COD and get the **** off my game. This is a game for people who want to win not for whine asses that hang back playing it safe. And stop proto stomping while playing solo if you dont wanna lose suits. |
medomai grey
WarRavens
Final Resolution.
900
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Posted - 2014.08.18 08:48:00 -
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NPC corp. Check.
Silly merc name. check.
Excessively easy to counter arguments. check.
This is a troll thread. Nothing to see here folks.
What percentile of Dust514's infantry arsenal belongs to the category of machine guns?
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Broonfondle Majikthies
Dogs of War Gaming
1292
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Posted - 2014.08.18 08:50:00 -
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Kiroyale wrote:Everytime i see good players finally get put on my team to help face the other proto stompers they ***** out and leave either on my side or the enemy team. It's pathetic really. You think people retreating to the redline to snipe on a losing team is bad? At least they are staying in the match. At least they have the balls to stay in the same MAP. While more skilled players who complain about snipers are too afraid to even step foot on the same playing field. This is way too common for people to be complaining about cowardly blueberries the way they do. When cowardly no nuts squads are just as frequent.
My grievances about most snipers is that I'm in the field, within the firing range of any enemy, while they are not.
My isk is in the field at far greater risk than theirs. And the more snipers on my team means the greater the threat I come under and the more isk I loose to increasing enemy fire.
I would rather they leave and have a decent chance of at least an extra starter fit on the field willing to take / lend fire.
"The air smells damp and oppressive, like a wet nun"
"Why am I talking to a lightbulb? Illuminate me"
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1856
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Posted - 2014.08.18 09:29:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:I wish I could like this 1000x Please post this in my thread.
If I recall right, if you jump out of your DS a few feet above them, the falling DS will crush them (like if they were under the RDV). |
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
953
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Posted - 2014.08.18 09:46:00 -
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medomai grey wrote:^ This. Most snipers don't know how to snipe in a manner that is useful for their team. Not saying that there aren't useful snipers, because there are. But majority of snipers are just dead weight that drags the whole team down. It would be a boon if the useless sniper left the match to allow someone to replace them.
Well, at least they're not as awful as the garbage from WarRavens.
Seriously a large portion of the fact so many people go sniping is because they Protostomp.
You can't complain about an issue if YOU ARE THE CAUSE OF IT.
Yet you come here to complain about "low quality snipers".
Either get your entire corp to refuse using anything higher than STD as well as any others you can talk to, or stop complaining.
http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU
Dust to Dust
Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
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medomai grey
WarRavens
Final Resolution.
900
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Posted - 2014.08.18 09:58:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Well, at least they're not as awful as the garbage from WarRavens.
Seriously a large portion of the fact so many people go sniping is because they Protostomp.
You can't complain about an issue if YOU ARE THE CAUSE OF IT.
Yet you come here to complain about "low quality snipers".
Either get your entire corp to refuse using anything higher than STD as well as any others you can talk to, or stop complaining. I smell butt hurt. Show me on the doll where my corp raped you? 
What percentile of Dust514's infantry arsenal belongs to the category of machine guns?
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
953
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Posted - 2014.08.18 10:30:00 -
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medomai grey wrote:Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Well, at least they're not as awful as the garbage from WarRavens.
Seriously a large portion of the fact so many people go sniping is because they Protostomp.
You can't complain about an issue if YOU ARE THE CAUSE OF IT.
Yet you come here to complain about "low quality snipers".
Either get your entire corp to refuse using anything higher than STD as well as any others you can talk to, or stop complaining. I smell butt hurt. Show me on the doll where my corp raped you?
A squeaking bunch of gibbering squirrels that can't kill a target unless it's in STD gear, and they gang up on it using Proto gear, 4 to the 1 target?
You are the one who complained about snipers. You are the one who assisted in causing the sniper situation.
You cried and complained about the situation, now you're trying to boast about it?
http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU
Dust to Dust
Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
4302
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Posted - 2014.08.18 11:22:00 -
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Kiroyale wrote:Yea i did see this video a week or two ago. At least they are all still in the match and sniping at the objective. It's overkill for sure but they kept playing. As bad as they are i have more respect for them than squads who complain about no competition and then haul ass when a good squad actually rolls in.
I think again, you are missing the point.
In the video you've got 5+ snipers in a position slightly forward but more elevated than a group of enemy snipers. They are close enough it looks like you could jump to the enemy yet they are all oblivious.
This is troubling because it means that not only were the snipers on the top showing zero situational awareness, but it means the enemy snipers were making so little impact on the game that not one of the 5+ above them were even curious about there location.
So we've got around 1/4th of the entire match (enemy and blue) on roofs making zero impact.
I know a LOT of players and I don't know many that like this. I'll give someone **** for even putting uplinks up high somewhere in a pub match. You are on glue if you think people don't want competition, I'd do PC 100% if it were possible or realistically possible due to those mechanics. People may be leaving matches but sometimes it's because people DC'd, a terrible map (everyone should leave the Dom with the long pipes and the tower in the middle), or they are pissed because it's then vs 16.
Level 4 Forum Warrior Very, very bitter vet
PSN: wbrom42
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medomai grey
WarRavens
Final Resolution.
900
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Posted - 2014.08.18 12:29:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:A squeaking bunch of gibbering squirrels that can't kill a target unless it's in STD gear, and they gang up on it using Proto gear, 4 to the 1 target?
You are the one who complained about snipers. You are the one who assisted in causing the sniper situation.
You cried and complained about the situation, now you're trying to boast about it? Are you implying that my corp has some magical ability to dictate how our enemies respond to threats? You do know we aren't gods right? We can't force players to respond to us with redline sniping, that's the player's choice.
Now if you want to blame us for you choosing to redline snipe because you lack courage to risk dying in a video game in order to win, be my guest. I personally take your excuses as a complement.
What percentile of Dust514's infantry arsenal belongs to the category of machine guns?
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
4302
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Posted - 2014.08.18 12:38:00 -
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Players not joining together to combat the veteran corps is a greater issue for sure. It's something just about everyone without ties to old Eon or Imps had to do to get where they are today. Instead of hiding in the redline as noobs they continued to push and feed clones to better groups and players until they could compete.
I want to remove the crutches for people to continue to derp. I want to see incentives for people to group up and overcome.
I'd be willing to go over squad comps and skilling plans for newer corps/groups as would many others if it meant they'd make an effort to join the ranks of those who want to experience Dust where it shines. It is fun and rewarding to work and get better with a group of players.
Anybody interested mail me in game and I'll try to set up some syncs and possibly even set up some PCs where we plug in some of your players to hear what has to happen to set up teams for success. It took us a long time and a lot of ups and downs to become proficient at it. It always bothers me when people act as though PC corps just absorbed the ability to do what they do.
Level 4 Forum Warrior Very, very bitter vet
PSN: wbrom42
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Derpty Derp
Dead Man's Game
298
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Posted - 2014.08.18 12:44:00 -
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Redzone Thales requires something, I had a dude killing from so far back it took me 10 seconds to get near him with a dropship & then I'm dead 3 seconds later because the redzone timer can't count... Yeah I think there's a fair complaint about that. |
Snake Sellors
Hellstorm Inc
General Tso's Alliance
322
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Posted - 2014.08.18 14:29:00 -
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Look folks... You want to carry on crying about **** poor snipers that's fine, but don't keep just making blanket statements about all snipers.
Honestly those guys aren't snipers, they are either new or ground pounder cogs who think sniping requires no skill or thought and is easy mode.
As for a situation like this, I'm personally more concerned about the opposite team letting them all build up there like that.
I promise you this much, they wouldn't of gotten away with it if I were on the other side.  |
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1743
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Posted - 2014.08.18 15:00:00 -
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im squishy wrote:medomai grey wrote:^ This. Most snipers don't know how to snipe in a manner that is useful for their team. Not saying that there aren't useful snipers, because there are. But majority of snipers are just dead weight that drags the whole team down. It would be a boon if the useless sniper left the match to allow someone to replace them. ..."i dont want to ruin my K/D' attitude has kicked in. Seriously if you are worried about your K/D then you need to go back to COD and get the **** off my game. This is a game for people who want to win not for whine asses that hang back playing it safe. And stop proto stomping while playing solo if you dont wanna lose suits.
I totally agree with this part of your statement and I agree that KDR is one of the causes. I think removing this statistic from the game would go a ways towards making people engage in actual combat rather than just hiding.
Fun > Realism
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Dj grammer
New Age Empire.
General Tso's Alliance
333
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Posted - 2014.08.18 15:32:00 -
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Try redline snipers, I plus everyone is guilty of this. Get rid of redline sniping by making the bullets hit the enemy but it does 0 damage every time until you are out the redline. Until that happens keep sniping in the redline.
Darkness is a Beginning, you see, not an end.
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Scheneighnay McBob
Cult of Gasai
5792
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Posted - 2014.08.18 15:41:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Why wouldn't people complain about cowardly blueberries?
I would rather complain about blueberries that charge to their deaths without thinking
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Tread Loudly 2
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
35
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Posted - 2014.08.18 15:55:00 -
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Dj grammer wrote:Try redline snipers, I plus everyone is guilty of this. Get rid of redline sniping by making the bullets hit the enemy but it does 0 damage every time until you are out the redline. Until that happens keep sniping in the redline.
The issue with this is there are very few good spots outside of the redline for snipers to actually snipe from. That is exactly why I tend to stay in the redline when sniping.
Besides we are barely a threat in the **** redline because enemies see a thales/proto sniper show up in the killfeed and don't even mention the Balac's sniper in the killfeed, this generally results in ob's heavies inside of dropships and occasionally even ads's finding you and going to your location.
I Like Tanks, Nova Knives and MagSec SMG's.
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
465
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Posted - 2014.08.18 16:59:00 -
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I share your sympathy OP except I go to a greater extreme. Too many close matches have been lost to clone out when some of our team were going 1/15 and 0/16 etc. If those guys would literally hide in the MCC we would often win. If they snipe, that's even better because at least if they can't kill a target they can try and ping it to make it easier for the rest of us.
In bravo and charlie I find that for the first time in dust I don't feel like their is an unfair FOTM proto stomp going on as often. Its generally just me hating the fact that I'm on the team with players that shouldn't be playing. |
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
954
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Posted - 2014.08.19 03:54:00 -
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medomai grey wrote:Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:A squeaking bunch of gibbering squirrels that can't kill a target unless it's in STD gear, and they gang up on it using Proto gear, 4 to the 1 target?
You are the one who complained about snipers. You are the one who assisted in causing the sniper situation.
You cried and complained about the situation, now you're trying to boast about it? Are you impyWe can't force players to respond to us with redline sniping, that's the player's choice. Now if you want to blame us for you choosing to redline snipe because you lack courage to risk dying in a video game in order to win, be my guest. I personally take your excuses as a complement.
A self-fulfilling fallacy is your entire reasoning? And it is High School "Premade boxed lunch" quality too.
Wow, I knew you guys were out of touch with reality, but this kind of takes the cake. And the Cake is a Lie.
Okay, here it is explained so even a Preschool child can understand:
People months ago started this game playing as they wanted, and everything seemed fine.
Certain groups, feeling inferior about their gameplay, decided to only go for KD/R by only playing in squads, and only with Proto gear. This eventually became known as Protostomping.
As other players got killed repetatively, and found no way to really enjoy the game anymore, a lot of them fell away. Those who remained chose to snipe as a casual sport.
The "Protostomp"ing Corporations, oblivious to the concept that they actually were having a direct impact on the number of remaining players continued blindly using only Proto gear and squadding up, because they were unable to get positive KD/R in regular matches.
Eventually, like a sieve, this left only the people who were mostly out of line with the Protostomper's ability to do anything, the sniping population.
This resulted in a lot more snipers, who play for the casual experience and laugh at the Protostompers who were going red in the face because they "Protps" were too lazy to get in range to do anything.
Now we have a full environment where a majority of casual players are snipers, because the people who run Proto suits are typically dumb enough to waddle in packs when they look for snipers, making these Proto clusters visible targets to casual snipers.
This resulted in the "Protostomp" players complaining about the abundance of casual snipers. The result of their decisions since Day 1. Hence what they complain about is their own inability to regulate field presence, and hence admit to their own stupidity when they complain about "too many snipers".
Basically it's like a dumb farmer who plants the seeds for a tomato, waters the seeds all those days, and then watches them grow into tomatoes, then complained because they weren't watermelon.
The sheer fact you did not know this very basic dynamic of the playingfield makes me rather curious to your awareness of the world in general.
Now you can go ahead and feel proud that you were too dumb to read the label on the seeds, now you can go ahead and feel proud that you spent all that time preparing an environment you didn't want. Now you can feel proud, that the only things you harvested were Rotten Tomatoes. Go ahead. Use more "troll" emotes to prove you think you're "tough" and "avant garde"... the same boring, repeated, overused, and really predictable excuses that every teenage wannabe uses, "because I made someone yell at me I must be in-tel-uh-gennt" go ahead. We're still going to be here. You are still going to be observed. You can have your "last word" dictated by underdeveloped "teenage angst".
http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU
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