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Jack 3enimble wrote:

Morathi III wrote:

Atiim wrote:

Morathi III wrote:

Gallente = brawler with the shorted range rifle = bonus to hip fire recoil is legit
Caldari = hit, hide. regen shield fast. attack again = bonus to reload faster to strike back faster is legit

where is the problem please let me lnow, they are actually good when you use your class has intended

The Caldari Bonus is simply a bootleg version of the bonus that all Commandos have.

And I use the term "bootleg" because it's actually less than the Commando. Though when you're fighting at long range you have plenty of time to reload so even if the bonus was improved it'll still be a stupid concept.

with the assault version its actually usefull in my book, good with the standard version against multiple target can give you additionnal time in between you killed the first and the second foes came into his own optimal range
less time you take to reload more time you have to hit thee ennemy back before is shield regen which with a RR its the key and this evn at long range.

All the assault bonus has to do is reduce the drawback of the racial weapon.

Amarr = Heat build up
Min = Small clip size

So the proposed bonus in this thread makes more than sense as the drawbacks of the AR is range and the RR is kick. I guess when I see your Amarr avatar you're scared that the Gal and Cal get a usefull bonus. If you think it's usefull maybe we should remove the heat build up super bonus for the Amarr and give it faster reload since it's key even at longer range? thought so...

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Jack 3enimble Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 207	Posted - 2014.08.17 15:55:00 - [1] - Quote So alot of players feel that the Gal and the Cal assault bonus are not good enough compared to the other assault suit bonus. Several threads have been made about this subject in General discussions, so it was moved to Features and Ideas to get some feedback from a CPM or DEV. Unfortunately there has not been any comment on this subject matter by a DEV or a CPM. My question: Can a CPM take a look at this please? here is the link: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=171650&find=unread
Atiim Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 11487	Posted - 2014.08.18 04:10:00 - [2] - Quote Cross Atu says to mail him in-game if you see a good thread, and he'll take a look. I think that's your best bet. DUST 514's 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3884	Posted - 2014.08.18 04:42:00 - [3] - Quote Arkena is a close friend of mine, and I have read the thread a few times. I completely agree the bonuses need reworked for the cal and gal. B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA They call me ~Princess Zatata~ Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought
Morathi III Pro Hic Immortalis 199	Posted - 2014.08.18 09:29:00 - [4] - Quote Gallente = brawler with the shorted range rifle = bonus to hip fire recoil is legit Caldari = hit, hide. regen shield fast. attack again = bonus to reload faster to strike back faster is legit where is the problem please let me lnow, they are actually good when you use your class has intended French Canadian Scrubs scout
Atiim Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 11488	Posted - 2014.08.18 09:59:00 - [5] - Quote Morathi III wrote: Gallente = brawler with the shorted range rifle = bonus to hip fire recoil is legit Caldari = hit, hide. regen shield fast. attack again = bonus to reload faster to strike back faster is legit where is the problem please let me lnow, they are actually good when you use your class has intended The Caldari Bonus is simply a bootleg version of the bonus that all Commandos have. And I use the term "bootleg" because it's actually less than the Commando. Though when you're fighting at long range you have plenty of time to reload so even if the bonus was improved it'll still be a stupid concept. DUST 514's 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Morathi III Pro Hic Immortalis 199	Posted - 2014.08.18 11:21:00 - [6] - Quote Atiim wrote: Morathi III wrote: Gallente = brawler with the shorted range rifle = bonus to hip fire recoil is legit Caldari = hit, hide. regen shield fast. attack again = bonus to reload faster to strike back faster is legit where is the problem please let me lnow, they are actually good when you use your class has intended The Caldari Bonus is simply a bootleg version of the bonus that all Commandos have. And I use the term "bootleg" because it's actually less than the Commando. Though when you're fighting at long range you have plenty of time to reload so even if the bonus was improved it'll still be a stupid concept. with the assault version its actually usefull in my book, good with the standard version against multiple target can give you additionnal time in between you killed the first and the second foes came into his own optimal range less time you take to reload more time you have to hit thee ennemy back before is shield regen which with a RR its the key and this evn at long range. French Canadian Scrubs scout
Jack 3enimble Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 208	Posted - 2014.08.18 13:07:00 - [7] - Quote Morathi III wrote: Atiim wrote: Morathi III wrote: Gallente = brawler with the shorted range rifle = bonus to hip fire recoil is legit Caldari = hit, hide. regen shield fast. attack again = bonus to reload faster to strike back faster is legit where is the problem please let me lnow, they are actually good when you use your class has intended The Caldari Bonus is simply a bootleg version of the bonus that all Commandos have. And I use the term "bootleg" because it's actually less than the Commando. Though when you're fighting at long range you have plenty of time to reload so even if the bonus was improved it'll still be a stupid concept. with the assault version its actually usefull in my book, good with the standard version against multiple target can give you additionnal time in between you killed the first and the second foes came into his own optimal range less time you take to reload more time you have to hit thee ennemy back before is shield regen which with a RR its the key and this evn at long range. All the assault bonus has to do is reduce the drawback of the racial weapon. Amarr = Heat build up Min = Small clip size So the proposed bonus in this thread makes more than sense as the drawbacks of the AR is range and the RR is kick. I guess when I see your Amarr avatar you're scared that the Gal and Cal get a usefull bonus. If you think it's usefull maybe we should remove the heat build up super bonus for the Amarr and give it faster reload? thought so...
Jack 3enimble Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 208	Posted - 2014.08.18 13:14:00 - [8] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Arkena is a close friend of mine, and I have read the thread a few times. I completely agree the bonuses need reworked for the cal and gal. Ok, thanks for the reply. Does that mean you will try to actually get it changed in something usefull?
Morathi III Pro Hic Immortalis 199	Posted - 2014.08.18 16:41:00 - [9] - Quote Jack 3enimble wrote: Morathi III wrote: Atiim wrote: Morathi III wrote: Gallente = brawler with the shorted range rifle = bonus to hip fire recoil is legit Caldari = hit, hide. regen shield fast. attack again = bonus to reload faster to strike back faster is legit where is the problem please let me lnow, they are actually good when you use your class has intended The Caldari Bonus is simply a bootleg version of the bonus that all Commandos have. And I use the term "bootleg" because it's actually less than the Commando. Though when you're fighting at long range you have plenty of time to reload so even if the bonus was improved it'll still be a stupid concept. with the assault version its actually usefull in my book, good with the standard version against multiple target can give you additionnal time in between you killed the first and the second foes came into his own optimal range less time you take to reload more time you have to hit thee ennemy back before is shield regen which with a RR its the key and this evn at long range. All the assault bonus has to do is reduce the drawback of the racial weapon. Amarr = Heat build up Min = Small clip size So the proposed bonus in this thread makes more than sense as the drawbacks of the AR is range and the RR is kick. I guess when I see your Amarr avatar you're scared that the Gal and Cal get a usefull bonus. If you think it's usefull maybe we should remove the heat build up super bonus for the Amarr and give it faster reload since it's key even at longer range? thought so... only taken it for the ship lobby my bad, i play with the gal scout since..... well close beta, i have AR prof 4 and i have lvl 3 in gal assault and when you spray and pray in close combat with my duvolle i think the gun is good a little bit longer before stop firing and restart.a friend of i, play with the caldari assault with RR and seems to find very usefull is bonus as well French Canadian Scrubs scout
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3884	Posted - 2014.08.18 18:13:00 - [10] - Quote Jack 3enimble wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: Arkena is a close friend of mine, and I have read the thread a few times. I completely agree the bonuses need reworked for the cal and gal. Ok, thanks for the reply. Does that mean you will try to actually get it changed in something usefull? Yes. B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA They call me ~Princess Zatata~ Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought

Jack 3enimble Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 212	Posted - 2014.08.19 00:01:00 - [11] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Jack 3enimble wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: Arkena is a close friend of mine, and I have read the thread a few times. I completely agree the bonuses need reworked for the cal and gal. Ok, thanks for the reply. Does that mean you will try to actually get it changed in something usefull? Yes. Thank you for your support.
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2748	Posted - 2014.08.19 03:44:00 - [12] - Quote Jack 3enimble wrote: So alot of players feel that the Gal and the Cal assault bonus are not good enough compared to the other assault suit bonus. Several threads have been made about this subject in General discussions, so it was moved to Features and Ideas to get some feedback from a CPM or DEV. Unfortunately there has not been any comment on this subject matter by a DEV or a CPM. My question: Can a CPM take a look at this please? here is the link: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=171650&find=unread Thanks for the post and the link, as it happens this was already on the CPM radar but more arrows pointing to a topic are never bad. Atiim wrote: Cross Atu says to mail him in-game if you see a good thread, and he'll take a look. I think that's your best bet. Thanks for the nudge on this, it is a good method and thanks to the OP for taking the time to write me. Cheers, Cross See a cool idea thread? Mail me the title and I'll take a look =)
MINA Longstrike 1126	Posted - 2014.08.20 11:09:00 - [13] - Quote I strongly disagree with increased range, rof or damage on gallente assault suits as I feel it would shoehorn them into being 'the' AR suit, If changes need to be made to range, rof, or damage I think they should be done to the base weapon. I am of the opinion that the current gallente assault bonus is very, very good but underrated. As far as the caldari goes, I'm fine with the simple addition of a kick reduction. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3897	Posted - 2014.08.20 19:40:00 - [14] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: I strongly disagree with increased range, rof or damage on gallente assault suits as I feel it would shoehorn them into being 'the' AR suit, If changes need to be made to range, rof, or damage I think they should be done to the base weapon. I am of the opinion that the current gallente assault bonus is very, very good but underrated. As far as the caldari goes, I'm fine with the simple addition of a kick reduction. Hey have you ever seen a video of a gal assault shooting an assault rifle with full skills maxed and then also seen a non gal using an assault rifle to compare? B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA They call me ~Princess Zatata~ Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought
Vethosis Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 1002	Posted - 2014.08.22 00:03:00 - [15] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: I strongly disagree with increased range, rof or damage on gallente assault suits as I feel it would shoehorn them into being 'the' AR suit, If changes need to be made to range, rof, or damage I think they should be done to the base weapon. I am of the opinion that the current gallente assault bonus is very, very good but underrated. As far as the caldari goes, I'm fine with the simple addition of a kick reduction. Hey have you ever seen a video of a gal assault shooting an assault rifle with full skills maxed and then also seen a non gal using an assault rifle to compare? i don't think many people would know if a person has a maxed gun. sigh this is the person representing us
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3901	Posted - 2014.08.22 00:16:00 - [16] - Quote Vethosis wrote: i don't think many people would know if a person has a maxed gun. sigh this is the person representing us They would if the video purported to show the difference and told you which was which. Not a difficult thing to clarify. B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA They call me ~Princess Zatata~ Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 17355	Posted - 2014.08.22 13:25:00 - [17] - Quote Vethosis wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: I strongly disagree with increased range, rof or damage on gallente assault suits as I feel it would shoehorn them into being 'the' AR suit, If changes need to be made to range, rof, or damage I think they should be done to the base weapon. I am of the opinion that the current gallente assault bonus is very, very good but underrated. As far as the caldari goes, I'm fine with the simple addition of a kick reduction. Hey have you ever seen a video of a gal assault shooting an assault rifle with full skills maxed and then also seen a non gal using an assault rifle to compare? i don't think many people would know if a person has a maxed gun. sigh this is the person representing us Or maybe he asked for a video that was expressly made for the purpose of comparing them. Luckily, a moron like you isn't representing us. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. 'Lucent Echelon' - Gallente FW channel
ReGnYuM Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback 3188	Posted - 2014.08.23 01:54:00 - [18] - Quote I feel opinions might vary between our esteemed councillors. Was it now IWS himself, who heavily pushed for the current cal assault bonus Escrow Removal and Acquisition- Our ERA has only just begun... Gym Bro/ Meat Head -- CrossFit enthusiast
Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 1582	Posted - 2014.08.23 08:32:00 - [19] - Quote We are paying close attention to the the many threads on this issue. While making no promises as to the their nature are are pushing for some changes here. CPM 1 member CEO of DUST University Vist dustcpm.com


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