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Mikey Ducati
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
449
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Posted - 2014.08.17 09:55:00 -
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As we move forward, either liking Charlie or disliking it, would the CPM perhaps discuss what are they plans moving forward for those who doesn't venture outside of GD?
What are the agreed upon discussion points amongst the council that may or may not impact the game?
What would you consider as a priority, as far as changes to what we have now?
Has there been any internal discussions amongst the CPMs since the election?
In what ways can we filter out QQ from constructive criticism to bring about a better Dust for the remaining playerbase?
Gratitude for stopping by and answering these questions for me in advance.
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Derpty Derp
Dead Man's Game
289
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Posted - 2014.08.17 10:00:00 -
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We should give CPM's the ability to stuff multiple forum topics into one topic, so we only get 1 thread about each problem, but I don't think anyone has the stamina for that job, lol. |
Judge Rhadamanthus
Amarr Templar One
2723
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Posted - 2014.08.17 10:24:00 -
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We are working on that at this moment. We have set up a board outside of CCPs sphere. I have created a CPM channel on my youtube to push data out and collect input. We are cleaning the CPM section of the forums and more. However there are some administration tasks involved in getting CPM1 up and running at full speed. The handover is in full swing and the administration tasks are all but complete.
CCP have to be certain that the group is up to speed. Remember that CCP is a business and letting outsiders see inside is a big risk. Caution is a wise move. As a CPM member I am making sure I know exactly what is going on before I open my mouth and blunder my way across the forums. There is a lot of work for me to catch up on. The process of getting up to date is not an easy one.
CCP staff holidays, admin restrictions and catch up all impact CPM1. We all have to make sure we know the limits of the NDA before we can speak about topics. Personally I am being cautious at this stage while I come to terms with the things that CCP wish to be public and those that are protected for very good reasons.
Rest assured that a great deal of work is being done. The CPM generates for me about 1000 Skype messages and 30 emails a day. There are video calls, early morning meetings and messages to and from CCP. We meet with CCP and with each other.
Email Me [email protected]
Twitter @Judge_EVELegion
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Mikey Ducati
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
449
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Posted - 2014.08.17 10:48:00 -
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Great to read Judge and thanks for the timely response. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
3832
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Posted - 2014.08.17 11:18:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:TLDR: DUST is dead, all hail Legion
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Judge Rhadamanthus
Amarr Templar One
2728
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Posted - 2014.08.17 11:50:00 -
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Takahiro. Could you please delete the fake quote from me in your last post.
Fake quotes I know are all part of the way many forum posters use to make a point. But fake quoting a CPM member may lead to people reading your post and thinking I actually said that somewhere, which I have not, and will not. It may get linked by others as something I did say. I never said anything of the sort and I do not want made up quote from me to circulate.
Email Me [email protected]
Twitter @Judge_EVELegion
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Kevall Longstride
DUST University Ivy League
1566
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Posted - 2014.08.17 12:12:00 -
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Just like to echo what judge has said. I think me and him have spoken for about 4 hours this last week alone. Helps when we're in the same timezone.
Obviously there's a lot that we can't talk about unfortunately and like Judge I'm learning what we can and can't say. But we've already had a previously announced meeting with Logibro and Rattati prior to Charlie and had a very fruitful discussion with them and ourselves after. I'm concentrating on how the NPE can be improved within the confines of hotfixes and all of us are paying attention to how the LP increase has effected FW participation.
I
CPM 1 member
CEO of DUST University
Vist dustcpm.com
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
916
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Posted - 2014.08.17 12:23:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:Takahiro. Could you please delete the fake quote from me in your last post.
Fake quotes I know are all part of the way many forum posters use to make a point. But fake quoting a CPM member may lead to people reading your post and thinking I actually said that somewhere, which I have not, and will not. It may get linked by others as something I did say. I never said anything of the sort and I do not want made up quote from me to circulate.
bamboo x (Ishukone Assault Forge Gun) Judge Rhadamanthus
fixed
Eternal Beings - #76 in All Time WP - #90 in All Time Kills. Member since day one, 10 months ago.
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Sylwester Dziewiecki
Interregnum.
351
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Posted - 2014.08.17 12:40:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: Rest assured that a great deal of work is being done. The CPM generates for me about 1000 Skype messages and 30 emails a day. There are video calls, early morning meetings and messages to and from CCP. Last week I spent 11 hours speaking to players in game about all sorts of issues (mostly discussing snipers, charlie changes and FW mechanics). We meet with CCP and with each other.
It sounds like:
I gone burnout very, very fast if I will constantly get so much community attention.
Would you guys as CPM1 consider separating some of the topics(game mechanics) between CPM members so that everything related to a game does not need to land on only one person desk? It would slow-down burnout thing..
Gallente Speed Scout.
EVE side of me: Nosum Hseebnrido
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Hakyou Brutor
Pure Evil.
1069
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Posted - 2014.08.17 13:38:00 -
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*Puts on tin foil hat*
Kane Spero knew he was getting kicked out of PC, so, being the goon he is, decided he would make it no fun for everyone else too.
No passive ISK? Yes, I agree the ISK amount was too high, but FFS now there is NO reason to even do PC, other than the fact that PC is the only place where you can get a good fight nowadays.
50 mil for a Clone Pack? How was this supposed to let new corps into PC? A corp new to PC attacked one of my corps (Pure Evil.) districts last night with a clone pack, I felt so bad I wanted to send them 50 mil just so they could attack someone they had a chance against.
Above all things, PC should be fixed, and CCP should implement a PFC where corps are required to bring in 16 of their own players. |
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DontChimpOut
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
80
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Posted - 2014.08.17 17:28:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:Takahiro. Could you please delete the fake quote from me in your last post.
Fake quotes I know are all part of the way many forum posters use to make a point. But fake quoting a CPM member may lead to people reading your post and thinking I actually said that somewhere, which I have not, and will not. It may get linked by others as something I did say. I never said anything of the sort and I do not want made up quote from me to circulate. You care an awful lot about your image, don't you. You're like a high school girl.
We can add new LP items, but we need to see FW participation numbers go up to make it worth our time. - CCP Dev
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
17082
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Posted - 2014.08.17 17:30:00 -
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DontChimpOut wrote:Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:Takahiro. Could you please delete the fake quote from me in your last post.
Fake quotes I know are all part of the way many forum posters use to make a point. But fake quoting a CPM member may lead to people reading your post and thinking I actually said that somewhere, which I have not, and will not. It may get linked by others as something I did say. I never said anything of the sort and I do not want made up quote from me to circulate. You care an awful lot about your image, don't you. You're like a high school girl.
Says the forum alt.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
'Lucent Echelon' - Gallente FW channel
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Judge Rhadamanthus
Amarr Templar One
2736
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Posted - 2014.08.17 17:38:00 -
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DontChimpOut wrote:You care an awful lot about your image, don't you. You're like a high school girl.
I care about what is true. If lies don't bother you, then that is your prerogative.
Email Me [email protected]
Twitter @Judge_EVELegion
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Freccia di Lybra
Maphia Clan Corporation
268
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Posted - 2014.08.17 17:43:00 -
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I'd simply like to remind the new CPM, they're not Legion's CPM, nor they will be when / if it launches. A word is enough to the wise...
Ei fu,
xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
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DontChimpOut
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
81
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Posted - 2014.08.17 17:44:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:DontChimpOut wrote:You care an awful lot about your image, don't you. You're like a high school girl. I care about what is true. If lies don't bother you, then that is your prerogative. You obviously don't care about nerfing an entire specialty to make your own even smaller specialty easier.
We can add new LP items, but we need to see FW participation numbers go up to make it worth our time. - CCP Dev
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Freccia di Lybra
Maphia Clan Corporation
268
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Posted - 2014.08.17 17:46:00 -
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DontChimpOut wrote:Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:DontChimpOut wrote:You care an awful lot about your image, don't you. You're like a high school girl. I care about what is true. If lies don't bother you, then that is your prerogative. You obviously don't care about nerfing an entire specialty to make your own even smaller specialty easier.
Let me strike a blow for Judge,
Such things you describe never happened afaik.
Ei fu,
xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
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Vell0cet
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
2157
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Posted - 2014.08.17 18:02:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:We are working on that at this moment. We have set up a board outside of CCPs sphere. I have created a CPM channel on my youtube to push data out and collect input. We are cleaning the CPM section of the forums and more. However there are some administration tasks involved in getting CPM1 up and running at full speed. The handover is in full swing and the administration tasks are all but complete.
CCP have to be certain that the group is up to speed. Remember that CCP is a business and letting outsiders see inside is a big risk. Caution is a wise move. As a CPM member I am making sure I know exactly what is going on before I open my mouth and blunder my way across the forums. There is a lot of work for me to catch up on. The process of getting up to date is not an easy one.
CCP staff holidays, admin restrictions and catch up all impact CPM1. We all have to make sure we know the limits of the NDA before we can speak about topics. Personally I am being cautious at this stage while I come to terms with the things that CCP wish to be public and those that are protected for very good reasons.
Rest assured that a great deal of work is being done. The CPM generates for me about 1000 Skype messages and 30 emails a day. There are video calls, early morning meetings and messages to and from CCP. Last week I spent 11 hours speaking to players in game about all sorts of issues (mostly discussing snipers, charlie changes and FW mechanics). We meet with CCP and with each other. I'm really liking how assessible you guys are trying to be. I've never been so hopeful about the future of this game since the Rouge Wedding. Sounds like you guys are doing all of the right things. o7
Best PvE idea ever!
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Atiim
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
11480
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Posted - 2014.08.17 18:09:00 -
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@Mikey Ducati
An ISD implementation in DUST would allow for better forum moderation, which would lead to more constructive feedback being given as non-constructive posts and threads would be removed.
Another solution, would to invite those known for giving constructive feedback to a channel in-game or on Skype, and holding discussions with the CPM there. The only problem with this idea, is that it has things happening behind "closed doors", which is not good for obvious reasons.
@Judge Rhadamanthus
Would it be possible to release the limits of the NDA to the public? That way, we could save time by only asking questions and engaging in conversations about things in which the CPM can freely discuss.
DUST 514's 1st Matari Commando
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Atiim
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
11480
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Posted - 2014.08.17 18:12:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:bamboo x wrote: bamboo x (Ishukone Assault Forge Gun) Judge Rhadamanthus
fixed How is this in anyway related to the topic/discussion at hand?
If you want to stroke your ego, please do so in another thread.
DUST 514's 1st Matari Commando
-HAND
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Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar
Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
747
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Posted - 2014.08.17 18:16:00 -
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i want to see a return to client updates bringing in new features, mechanics, and assets, more maps and district mechanics in particular. |
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Judge Rhadamanthus
Amarr Templar One
2743
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Posted - 2014.08.17 18:46:00 -
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Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote:i want to see a return to client updates bringing in new features, mechanics, and assets, more maps and district mechanics in particular.
So do I. A lot. We need a strong case and a clear and concise list of things to put in it.
Email Me [email protected]
Twitter @Judge_EVELegion
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GeneralButtNaked
Fatal Absolution
1350
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Posted - 2014.08.17 18:57:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:We are working on that at this moment. We have set up a board outside of CCPs sphere. I have created a CPM channel on my youtube to push data out and collect input. We are cleaning the CPM section of the forums and more. However there are some administration tasks involved in getting CPM1 up and running at full speed. The handover is in full swing and the administration tasks are all but complete.
CCP have to be certain that the group is up to speed. Remember that CCP is a business and letting outsiders see inside is a big risk. Caution is a wise move. As a CPM member I am making sure I know exactly what is going on before I open my mouth and blunder my way across the forums. There is a lot of work for me to catch up on. The process of getting up to date is not an easy one.
CCP staff holidays, admin restrictions and catch up all impact CPM1. We all have to make sure we know the limits of the NDA before we can speak about topics. Personally I am being cautious at this stage while I come to terms with the things that CCP wish to be public and those that are protected for very good reasons.
Rest assured that a great deal of work is being done. The CPM generates for me about 1000 Skype messages and 30 emails a day. There are video calls, early morning meetings and messages to and from CCP. Last week I spent 11 hours speaking to players in game about all sorts of issues (mostly discussing snipers, charlie changes and FW mechanics). We meet with CCP and with each other.
CCP needs meetings to tell you that the dead game is dead?
The only good reason CCP has to keep info bottled up is to prevent people from fleeing. So just like the previous CPM, your primary job is to mislead the people you are allegedly representing. Which one of the current crop is going to replace IWS as head apologist?
Mr Hybrid Vayu, tanker supreme.
GBN: Prof 5 FG, HMG, SMG, AR, LR Prof 4 ScR RR, SR
Proto Logi, Heavy, Assault.
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GeneralButtNaked
Fatal Absolution
1350
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Posted - 2014.08.17 18:58:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote:i want to see a return to client updates bringing in new features, mechanics, and assets, more maps and district mechanics in particular. So do I. A lot. We need a strong case and a clear and concise list of things to put in it.
Yeah, like enough people to actually play it, and a not garbage game.
Both of which are about as likely as me having a three way with Eleanor Roosevelt and Megan Fox on Mars.
Mr Hybrid Vayu, tanker supreme.
GBN: Prof 5 FG, HMG, SMG, AR, LR Prof 4 ScR RR, SR
Proto Logi, Heavy, Assault.
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GeneralButtNaked
Fatal Absolution
1350
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Posted - 2014.08.17 19:03:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:DontChimpOut wrote:You care an awful lot about your image, don't you. You're like a high school girl. I care about what is true. If lies don't bother you, then that is your prerogative.
CPM and honestly are not compatible. Same with integrity.
Mr Hybrid Vayu, tanker supreme.
GBN: Prof 5 FG, HMG, SMG, AR, LR Prof 4 ScR RR, SR
Proto Logi, Heavy, Assault.
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Derpty Derp
Dead Man's Game
295
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Posted - 2014.08.17 19:04:00 -
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DontChimpOut wrote:Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:DontChimpOut wrote:You care an awful lot about your image, don't you. You're like a high school girl. I care about what is true. If lies don't bother you, then that is your prerogative. You obviously don't care about nerfing an entire specialty to make your own even smaller specialty easier.
Yeah I hear that buff to swarm launchers he got really made piloting easier >___> /obvious sarcasm. |
GeneralButtNaked
Fatal Absolution
1350
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Posted - 2014.08.17 19:10:00 -
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Derpty Derp wrote:
Yeah I hear that buff to swarm launchers he got really made piloting easier >___> /obvious sarcasm.
Hmm, but nerfing railgun range in half made it much easier for tanks to take out dropships.
Mr Hybrid Vayu, tanker supreme.
GBN: Prof 5 FG, HMG, SMG, AR, LR Prof 4 ScR RR, SR
Proto Logi, Heavy, Assault.
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Atiim
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
11481
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Posted - 2014.08.17 19:15:00 -
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GeneralButtNaked wrote: Which one of the current crop is going to replace IWS as head apologist? IWS was re-elected to CPM1.
DUST 514's 1st Matari Commando
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GeneralButtNaked
Fatal Absolution
1350
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Posted - 2014.08.17 19:25:00 -
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Atiim wrote:GeneralButtNaked wrote: Which one of the current crop is going to replace IWS as head apologist? IWS was re-elected to CPM1.
I think you mean appointed. I doubt anyone actually gave enough of a crap to inspect the voting record. CCP wouldn't turn IWS away after all the help he gave them getting cash out of peoples pockets.
Mr Hybrid Vayu, tanker supreme.
GBN: Prof 5 FG, HMG, SMG, AR, LR Prof 4 ScR RR, SR
Proto Logi, Heavy, Assault.
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Vell0cet
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
2157
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Posted - 2014.08.17 20:14:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote:i want to see a return to client updates bringing in new features, mechanics, and assets, more maps and district mechanics in particular. So do I. A lot. We need a strong case and a clear and concise list of things to put in it. Item 1: Full racial parity: missing heavy weapons, vehicles, turrets and installations. Item 2: Bring back the old vehicle modules/fits/variants/skills. Item 3: Mechanism to sell junk salvage back to CCP. A P2P market is probably out of reach, but I'd settle for selling stuff back for what it costs to buy (or even a bit less). Item 4: Bring back corp battles with team deploy (no ISK or SP to prevent abuse).
The CPM should collate a list, and run a survey of the community to figure out the priorities, once you guys get settled in, of course.
Best PvE idea ever!
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GeneralButtNaked
Fatal Absolution
1353
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Posted - 2014.08.17 20:32:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote:
The CPM should collate a list, and run a survey of the community to figure out the priorities, once you guys get settled in, of course.
What the community wants doesn't matter. What CCP wants to do and has the manpower to do does, and the answer to both of those is: not a whole hell of a lot.
If your requests involve more than changing numbers in a DB somewhere, you are SOL. Deal with it, and when the CPM tells you otherwise, call them out for being shills and apologists.
Mr Hybrid Vayu, tanker supreme.
GBN: Prof 5 FG, HMG, SMG, AR, LR Prof 4 ScR RR, SR
Proto Logi, Heavy, Assault.
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ReGnYuM
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
3175
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Posted - 2014.08.17 20:42:00 -
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@ Hey Judge can we get a real life picture of you
My prerogative: Putting a name to a face.
Escrow Removal and Acquisition- Our ERA has only just begun...
Gym Bro/ Meat Head -- CrossFit enthusiast
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
2187
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Posted - 2014.08.17 21:35:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote:Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote:i want to see a return to client updates bringing in new features, mechanics, and assets, more maps and district mechanics in particular. So do I. A lot. We need a strong case and a clear and concise list of things to put in it. Item 1: Full racial parity: missing heavy weapons, vehicles, turrets and installations. Item 2: Bring back the old vehicle modules/fits/variants/skills. Item 3: Mechanism to sell junk salvage back to CCP. A P2P market is probably out of reach, but I'd settle for selling stuff back for what it costs to buy (or even a bit less). Item 4: Bring back corp battles with team deploy (no ISK or SP to prevent abuse). The CPM should collate a list, and run a survey of the community to figure out the priorities, once you guys get settled in, of course.
Item 5. Address the godawful rewards system. Improvements to FW are improvements and I am thankful for that. However, the ISK generation in pubs is absolutely repugnant. Or we need an alternate game mode for ISK gen that rewards high SP/High risk with higher payouts. The Pubmatch welfare check is rather annoying. |
bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
921
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Posted - 2014.08.17 21:39:00 -
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Atiim wrote: How is this in anyway related to the topic/discussion at hand?
If you want to stroke your ego, please do so in another thread.
For your information I love Judge and I voted for him in the #1 slot.
Judge, take it from me... don't let these clowns get to you.
I was just busting his balls.
Eternal Beings - #76 in All Time WP - #90 in All Time Kills. Member since day one, 10 months ago.
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Mikey Ducati
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
454
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Posted - 2014.08.17 22:46:00 -
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Thank you, again, Judge and Kevall for stopping by and answering my questions. If any other CPMs wish to speak, don't be shy. |
Vell0cet
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
2158
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Posted - 2014.08.18 02:39:00 -
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GeneralButtNaked wrote:Vell0cet wrote:
The CPM should collate a list, and run a survey of the community to figure out the priorities, once you guys get settled in, of course.
What the community wants doesn't matter. What CCP wants to do and has the manpower to do does, and the answer to both of those is: not a whole hell of a lot. If your requests involve more than changing numbers in a DB somewhere, you are SOL. Deal with it, and when the CPM tells you otherwise, call them out for being shills and apologists. I think a strong case can be made that full racial parity in DUST is in CCPs best financial interests. If they can string the current playerbase along to help fund Legion development costs, then a small investment in development resources may help pay for itself. CCP will have to have full racial parity at launch anyways, so it makes sense to let the DUST community to help balance these. If they're going to make these assets for Legion, the amount of effort to downscale for DUST would likely be pretty modest with a large gain for CCP. It's a smart financial decision with a high return on investment.
Legion needs to launch with good balance in a complete state. This should help get positive initial reviews which will help launch the product with positive momentum.
Best PvE idea ever!
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
3838
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Posted - 2014.08.18 11:01:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:Takahiro. Could you please delete the fake quote from me in your last post.
Fake quotes I know are all part of the way many forum posters use to make a point. But fake quoting a CPM member may lead to people reading your post and thinking I actually said that somewhere, which I have not, and will not. It may get linked by others as something I did say. I never said anything of the sort and I do not want made up quote from me to circulate.
Nope
Its true
Game is dead, live at fanfest
Trying to hotfix it after the corpse has been buried
cpm still lying anyways
Why bother?
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Mikey Ducati
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
458
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Posted - 2014.08.18 11:45:00 -
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I would appreciate such matters are discussed outside of this thread please. This is not a scorned, bitter thread but a thread for folks like me who primarily inhabit GD and would like to hear from their new CPMs. |
DontChimpOut
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
83
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Posted - 2014.08.18 15:32:00 -
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Freccia di Lybra wrote:DontChimpOut wrote:Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:DontChimpOut wrote:You care an awful lot about your image, don't you. You're like a high school girl. I care about what is true. If lies don't bother you, then that is your prerogative. You obviously don't care about nerfing an entire specialty to make your own even smaller specialty easier. Let me strike a blow for Judge, Such things you describe never happened afaik. Takahiro has linked multiple times to a thread judge made asking for rails to be removed from the game.
And why are you carrying his water? Hoping to get a little something on the side?
We can add new LP items, but we need to see FW participation numbers go up to make it worth our time. - CCP Dev
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