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Thurak1
Psygod9
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Posted - 2014.08.16 21:19:00 -
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I know other sentinals had a reduction in cpu andpg. However the Caldari now has the lowest CPU and PG in the game. Which seems ridiculouse to me. A dropsuit meant to be a cqc master to hold heavy weapons and such now doesn't even have enough cpu / pg in the suit to have any real variety on the suit fitting wise.
I mean its silly even scouts have a higher base cpu and pg than my sentinal suit. Why is that?
Tell you what lets Curse every dropsuit to have the same base stats and see how fast the entire playerbase gets on here and rips you a new one. I dare ya CCP i dare you to give every dropsuit the same cpu and pg. Leave everything else alone lol not like they could use the other slots anyway with this lousy cpu / pg. |
Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
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Posted - 2014.08.16 21:33:00 -
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Some suits need the extra CPU and PG because of what they carry. Logistics carry the most items, for example. The scout CPU and PG buff was a bit too much, in my opinion (PG on Minmatar is still horrible, though).
Amarr weapons require more fitting than Minmatar, so there's also that.
This is why we don't all have the same stats. Are they right where they should be, at the moment? I don't know. I don't have 5 in electronics and Engineering, nor do I have 5 on all the suits available. |
Crimson ShieId
Psygod9
768
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Posted - 2014.08.16 21:43:00 -
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Because CCP is trying to convince everyone that they don't secretly have an affair going on with a group of Caldari~ 
Nova Knives are best sidearm.
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TechMechMeds
Level 5 Forum Warrior
5186
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Posted - 2014.08.16 21:47:00 -
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Because caldari are minimalist. They should use harsh language and run naked.
There he goes. One of gods own prototypes.
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Sgt Buttscratch
R 0 N 1 N
2272
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Posted - 2014.08.16 21:50:00 -
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The Caldari are turd ticklers.
Give me my scrambler pistol back....**
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Thumb Green
Raymond James Corp
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Posted - 2014.08.16 22:39:00 -
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The Caldari sentinel isn't meant to be a CQC master; that's the Amarr and Gallente sentinel's job. The Caldari sentinel is meant to be a AV master.
At the RJC we don't kick ass, we kick dick and we kick it hard.
Kill Scotty
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BlazeXYZ
xCosmic Voidx
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
149
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Posted - 2014.08.16 22:54:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:The Caldari sentinel isn't meant to be a CQC master; that's the Amarr and Gallente sentinel's job. The Caldari sentinel is meant to be a AV master.
What about minmatar
The Blazing Intellect Machine
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
407
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Posted - 2014.08.16 23:11:00 -
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Cause it's Caldari brosef. Caldari always get nerfed first and harshly. Just ask the Logistics players of old. Before the recent assault buff, how ass the CalAss was. The Sentinel and even the scout. Sucks to be Caldari bro.
Saying what's on people's minds
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
407
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Posted - 2014.08.16 23:12:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:The Caldari sentinel isn't meant to be a CQC master; that's the Amarr and Gallente sentinel's job. The Caldari sentinel is meant to be a AV master.
^He talks dumb
Saying what's on people's minds
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Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
83
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Posted - 2014.08.17 00:17:00 -
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Krixus Flux wrote:Thumb Green wrote:The Caldari sentinel isn't meant to be a CQC master; that's the Amarr and Gallente sentinel's job. The Caldari sentinel is meant to be a AV master. ^He talks dumb
Tons of highs for damage mods?
Check.
Good regen to keep pressure on vehicles?
Check.
Racial match with Forge Guns, the BEST AV weapon?
Check.
Sounds like a good AV platform to me.... |
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
407
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Posted - 2014.08.17 00:20:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Krixus Flux wrote:Thumb Green wrote:The Caldari sentinel isn't meant to be a CQC master; that's the Amarr and Gallente sentinel's job. The Caldari sentinel is meant to be a AV master. ^He talks dumb Tons of highs for damage mods? Check. Good regen to keep pressure on vehicles? Check. Racial match with Forge Guns, the BEST AV weapon? Check. Sounds like a good AV platform to me....
Yea to you, duh you ape.
Saying what's on people's minds
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Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
91
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Posted - 2014.08.18 05:34:00 -
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Krixus Flux wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Krixus Flux wrote:Thumb Green wrote:The Caldari sentinel isn't meant to be a CQC master; that's the Amarr and Gallente sentinel's job. The Caldari sentinel is meant to be a AV master. ^He talks dumb Tons of highs for damage mods? Check. Good regen to keep pressure on vehicles? Check. Racial match with Forge Guns, the BEST AV weapon? Check. Sounds like a good AV platform to me.... Yea to you, duh you ape.
High Resistance to Blasters and Missiles.
Check.
Face it. The Caldari Sentinel was built with AV in mind. |
Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1302
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Posted - 2014.08.18 05:50:00 -
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Agreed.
Caldari Sent = AV.
The challenge is that suit was doable in CQC before Charlie. Now it's been gimped. Feel bad for those guys who used it as CQC suit before.
Kind of like the Cal scout & passive scanning. With Charlie, those playing that role had their advantage taken away.
It is interesting to note, in regard to to both those changes, the Amarr suits seemingly came out on top.
FWIW, I suspect Amarr scout will be my next proto suit, and I already have the Amarr heavy. |
Arunis Gen
G I A N T
176
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Posted - 2014.08.18 07:07:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:Agreed.
Caldari Sent = AV.
The challenge is that suit was doable in CQC before Charlie. Now it's been gimped. Feel bad for those guys who used it as CQC suit before.
Kind of like the Cal scout & passive scanning. With Charlie, those playing that role had their advantage taken away.
It is interesting to note, in regard to to both those changes, the Amarr suits seemingly came out on top.
FWIW, I suspect Amarr scout will be my next proto suit, and I already have the Amarr heavy.
Dunno. I still use my CalSent ADV Suit/MH82 and still wreck Gallente/Amarr sentinels. If people would stop being bad they would see that the CalSentinel is a glorious suit and in my opinion, the best.
Fight the Meta.
Note that I use a PS3 controller, and not a KB/M setup :)
~_~-G I A N T for Life-~_~
~_~-Bitter Veteran-~_~
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
417
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Posted - 2014.08.18 07:08:00 -
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ohai! this again. Caldari Sentinel is more than a AV suit. just my opinion bros!
Saying what's on people's minds
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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
3967
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Posted - 2014.08.18 07:18:00 -
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Thurak1 wrote:I know other sentinals had a reduction in cpu andpg. However the Caldari now has the lowest CPU and PG in the game. Which seems ridiculouse to me. A dropsuit meant to be a cqc master to hold heavy weapons and such now doesn't even have enough cpu / pg in the suit to have any real variety on the suit fitting wise.
I mean its silly even scouts have a higher base cpu and pg than my sentinal suit. Why is that?
Tell you what lets Curse every dropsuit to have the same base stats and see how fast the entire playerbase gets on here and rips you a new one. I dare ya CCP i dare you to give every dropsuit the same cpu and pg. Leave everything else alone lol not like they could use the other slots anyway with this lousy cpu / pg.
Get your core skills maxed out then you can fit every heavy properly. And yes i use the cal.sentinel.
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Syeven Reed
Sebiestor Field Sappers
833
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Posted - 2014.08.18 07:20:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:Thurak1 wrote:I know other sentinals had a reduction in cpu andpg. However the Caldari now has the lowest CPU and PG in the game. Which seems ridiculouse to me. A dropsuit meant to be a cqc master to hold heavy weapons and such now doesn't even have enough cpu / pg in the suit to have any real variety on the suit fitting wise.
I mean its silly even scouts have a higher base cpu and pg than my sentinal suit. Why is that?
Tell you what lets Curse every dropsuit to have the same base stats and see how fast the entire playerbase gets on here and rips you a new one. I dare ya CCP i dare you to give every dropsuit the same cpu and pg. Leave everything else alone lol not like they could use the other slots anyway with this lousy cpu / pg. Get your core skills maxed out then you can fit every heavy properly. And yes i use the cal.sentinel.
This, also the shield recharge rate.
Word Crimes
EvE - 21 Day Buddy Trial
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
2204
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Posted - 2014.08.18 08:12:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Krixus Flux wrote:Thumb Green wrote:The Caldari sentinel isn't meant to be a CQC master; that's the Amarr and Gallente sentinel's job. The Caldari sentinel is meant to be a AV master. ^He talks dumb Tons of highs for damage mods? Check. Good regen to keep pressure on vehicles? Check. Racial match with Forge Guns, the BEST AV weapon? Check. Sounds like a good AV platform to me....
If your statement true then fitting the forge should be easier than the HMG. You have to sacrifice a lot more to run forge guns though.
Honestly it looks more like an oversight than CCP going "Lol Canlari." I don't think they were intended to be harder to fit than the other sentinels. |
Francois Sanchez
What The French
Red Whines.
79
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Posted - 2014.08.18 08:23:00 -
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Thurak1 wrote:I know other sentinals had a reduction in cpu andpg. However the Caldari now has the lowest CPU and PG in the game. Which seems ridiculouse to me. A dropsuit meant to be a cqc master to hold heavy weapons and such now doesn't even have enough cpu / pg in the suit to have any real variety on the suit fitting wise.
I mean its silly even scouts have a higher base cpu and pg than my sentinal suit. Why is that?
Tell you what lets Curse every dropsuit to have the same base stats and see how fast the entire playerbase gets on here and rips you a new one. I dare ya CCP i dare you to give every dropsuit the same cpu and pg. Leave everything else alone lol not like they could use the other slots anyway with this lousy cpu / pg.
Damn stop complaining about sentinels having less total CPU/PG than the other suits, what counts is the CPU/PG available PER SLOT. I've already done the comparison for the Minmatar on an other thread. And the result was that Sentinel had more fitting abilities than the others. Here is calculations for Caldari (done with max skills) :
Sentinel :
410 CPU, 58 PG, 8 slots.
51.25 CPU per slot, 7.25 PG per slot
Scout :
457 CPU, 87 PG, 11 slots
41.54 CPU per slot, 7.91 PG per slot
Assault :
528 CPU, 79 PG, 12 slots
44 CPU per slot, 6.58 PG per slot
And I remind you that good equipment generally costs more than other modules. And I can make a good Cal sent fit without any difficulty, I really don't see where is the problem. Here is the fit with level 4 in everything CPU/PG related, no optimization skill of any kind, and level 5 sent :
Cmplx shield energizer
2 Cmplx shield extenders
Cmplx heavy damage mod
Cmplx shield regulator
Boundless HMG
Scrambler pistol
Flux grenade
As you can see everything is proto outside the grenades and the sidearm, which you really don't care when you're a sentinel. And I still have 9 free PG
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QRT30
Rave Technologies Inc.
C0VEN
35
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Posted - 2014.08.18 08:51:00 -
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Francois Sanchez wrote:[quote=Thurak1]
And I remind you that good equipment generally costs more than other modules. And I can make a good Cal sent fit without any difficulty, I really don't see where is the problem. Here is the fit with level 4 in everything CPU/PG related, no optimization skill of any kind, and level 5 sent :
Cmplx shield energizer
2 Cmplx shield extenders
Cmplx heavy damage mod
Cmplx shield regulator
Boundless HMG
Scrambler pistol
Flux grenade
As you can see everything is proto outside the grenades and the sidearm, which you really don't care when you're a sentinel. And I still have 9 free PG
Grenades and sidearm are very important when you use forge. I still miss ~50CPU and ~25PG when I would like to use all proto modules/weapons. (My core, weaponry operation etc are maxed)
QRT30 - all Caldari lvl 5, core maxed
QRT300 - Amarr heavy/commando
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Mregomies
Beer For Evil Mercs
237
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Posted - 2014.08.18 09:17:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:The Caldari sentinel isn't meant to be a CQC master; that's the Amarr and Gallente sentinel's job. The Caldari sentinel is meant to be a AV master.
True.
I use IAFG with calsent to AV and infantry sniping and it's OK.
I don't do CQC (bad gungame, M/KB lag) that's why I only have little over 20k kills.
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ScI-Iurk
Carbon 7
Iron Oxide.
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Posted - 2014.08.18 09:49:00 -
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Isn't the reason for limited cpu and pg that you have to think about your fitting ans make choices instead of maxing everything out? And isn't that a good thing? |
Francois Sanchez
What The French
Red Whines.
79
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Posted - 2014.08.18 14:21:00 -
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QRT30 wrote:Francois Sanchez wrote:[quote=Thurak1]
And I remind you that good equipment generally costs more than other modules. And I can make a good Cal sent fit without any difficulty, I really don't see where is the problem. Here is the fit with level 4 in everything CPU/PG related, no optimization skill of any kind, and level 5 sent :
Cmplx shield energizer
2 Cmplx shield extenders
Cmplx heavy damage mod
Cmplx shield regulator
Boundless HMG
Scrambler pistol
Flux grenade
As you can see everything is proto outside the grenades and the sidearm, which you really don't care when you're a sentinel. And I still have 9 free PG
Grenades and sidearm are very important when you use forge. I still miss ~50CPU and ~25PG when I would like to use all proto modules/weapons. (My core, weaponry operation etc are maxed)
Yeah here I was showing an example with the HMG as it was what the guy was mainly complaining about, it's true that a forge gunner needs a good sidearm, however the low slot becomes less important and so can be downgraded.
And it's perfectly normal that you miss that amount of PG/CPU to run full proto, because no suit in the game can run full proto (except if using cheap stuff like cardiac regulators etc) and it should stay like that to force people to make choices.
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