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843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F
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Posted - 2014.08.16 16:17:00 -
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Lately all i see on the forums is the FoTM chasers crying and whining about there suits.
"They ruined my cal scout so now i need a respec"
"I don't have max fitting skills and i can't fit all proto on my suit, it need a pg/cpu buff"
Etc, etc, etc............
Didn't you people learn by now that if something seems to good to be true that it will get changed as soon as posible?
If you did then why the hell are you still going into the new FoTM instead of learning to use what you got.
Do you people know how many times i hear FoTM chasers cry and whine that they can't fit stuff because they wasted sp on the FoTM and now can't upgrade any fiotting skills, so when the FoTM changes they are whine and cry and b!tch that they need or deserve a respec because the suit or weapon they are using got change and its not the way it was before, and they want to spec into the new FoTM.
All I really have to say is CCP stop caving to the scrubs and changing things and giving respecs so they can chase the next FoTM, you are the devs, not the players and you should decide what happens and what does not happen towards development in the game. You had a diamond of a game and by listening to the scrubs whine and cry you have turned into a lump of coal. |
843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.16 16:51:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Jack 3enimble wrote:I'm getting tired of people using the term FOTM. People are free to spec into whatever they want. For some, that is not the case. They have a presupposition to skill into 'the best' thing and so their choice is always made up for them. Now you could say that is exactly what they want and thus, they are playing their way. But if they always skill into fotm then their choices are already decided for them. They don't skill into what they want and then make it work, they skill into what they have to, to win, they need it to augment their skill rather than their skill augmenting what they pick. Thats my take on it anyway. Sources-21 years+ gaming on many, many platforms.
*claps* I couldn't have said it better myself. if i could give this post a million likes i would.
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843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.16 17:12:00 -
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Robocop Junior wrote:Maybe FoTM chasers are tired of you. Maybe I'm tired of your stupid posts.
If you don't like my threads then you don't have to read them, or post on them.
Mainly because no one gives a rats a$$ what you think.
And if the FoTM chasers are tired of my threads, then I m doing it correctly, because the entire community is tired of them.
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843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.16 17:15:00 -
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iKILLu osborne wrote:hmm?.....so i'm condemned for making an informed decision on what suit to choose that suits my playstyle. At the start of 1.8 i chose cal scout because I knew cloaking/dampening would be a pain in the arse due to the active scanner "fixes" and to ensure I was making the right choice I took the time to read the description, compare slot layouts/bonus to other scouts, make many experimental fits on protofits, ask my corpmates their opinion, invest it to lvl 1 to run the experimental fits^(that i made on protofits) and then liking how it felt skilled to lvl 5. and you have the audacity to call me fotm chaser!!!!! I'M ONE OF THE ONES THAT MADE IT BECOME FOTM, IT'S ALL YOU DAMN SCRUBS THAT CAME RUNNING FROM THE GALLENTE SCOUT NERF THAT ARE THE FOTM CHASERS!!!! so mad i about shlt my dropsuit 
You didn't do sh!t except spec into one of the more OP scout suits and nothing else, because while you were sitting on the fence asking questions and making fits o proto fits, people went straight to level 5 in cal scout. S by the time you put points into cal scout people already had them. So all you did was follow the pack and go with the FoTM. |
843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.16 17:56:00 -
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Thurak1 wrote:What ccp has done to cal sent is ridiculous. I have maxed pg cpu and even maxed core upgrade to get as much as i can out of every suit.
My fitting choices are very very limited on a c1 dropsuit now. I can imagine it scales up from standard to proto. However on my c1 suit i cant use my blueprints. There just is not enough cpu / pg on the suit to even entertain the idea of using a bp.
If i want to use 3 shield extenders i use 3 standard shield reg. I cant fit anything better than standard. I can fit snandard everything on the suit and thats it not advanced not militia.
I also cant fit a forgegun on said suit. To do that i need to either get rid of sidearm and grenafde LOL or fit the hi slots will all regulators or leave empty.
So yea the cal sentinals have been boned pretty good on this one. Also simply on a numbers standpoint it is now the lowest of ALL dropsuits in pg / cpu. Even my lousy dragonfly scout bpo has better cpu and pg.
You don't have max fitting skills if you dont have heavy/light weapon operations at level 5 since it lowers cpu cost of heavy/light weapons and if you don't have the weapon fitting opti skills to lower pg costs of weapons.
When you get those then you can cry that cpu/pg is to low, but then again CCP DOES NOT want people to be able fit proto everything on your suit. They want you to have to sacrifice some thing to get the proto stuff you want. |
843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.16 17:58:00 -
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Robocop Junior wrote:843-Vika wrote:Robocop Junior wrote:Maybe FoTM chasers are tired of you. Maybe I'm tired of your stupid posts. If you don't like my threads then you don't have to read them, or post on them. Mainly because no one gives a rats a$$ what you think. And if the FoTM chasers are tired of my threads, then I m doing it correctly, because the entire community is tired of them. Maybe the entire community is as naive as you.
Maybe your the naive one if you think your correct and everyone else wrong. Maybe you should find your way out of Dust and leave it to the people that can wear their big boy pants. |
843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.16 17:59:00 -
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iKILLu osborne wrote:No SIR my decision was made in one day, i woke up early that morning excited for 1.8, and started my research and finshed about 4 hrs later.
And in that 4 hours Cal Scout was already FoTM because everyone who is awake for when servers come back up after down times already had their Cal Scouts. So like i said you just followed behind everyone else. |
843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.16 18:06:00 -
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Thurak1 wrote:843-Vika wrote:Thurak1 wrote:What ccp has done to cal sent is ridiculous. I have maxed pg cpu and even maxed core upgrade to get as much as i can out of every suit.
My fitting choices are very very limited on a c1 dropsuit now. I can imagine it scales up from standard to proto. However on my c1 suit i cant use my blueprints. There just is not enough cpu / pg on the suit to even entertain the idea of using a bp.
If i want to use 3 shield extenders i use 3 standard shield reg. I cant fit anything better than standard. I can fit snandard everything on the suit and thats it not advanced not militia.
I also cant fit a forgegun on said suit. To do that i need to either get rid of sidearm and grenafde LOL or fit the hi slots will all regulators or leave empty.
So yea the cal sentinals have been boned pretty good on this one. Also simply on a numbers standpoint it is now the lowest of ALL dropsuits in pg / cpu. Even my lousy dragonfly scout bpo has better cpu and pg. You don't have max fitting skills if you dont have heavy/light weapon operations at level 5 since it lowers cpu cost of heavy/light weapons and if you don't have the weapon fitting opti skills to lower pg costs of weapons. When you get those then you can cry that cpu/pg is to low, but then again CCP DOES NOT want people to be able fit proto everything on your suit. They want you to have to sacrifice some thing to get the proto stuff you want. You obviously did not read what i wrote. Please come back and try again. Also HMG fitting optimization is % based and a very low number. for a standard gear HMG it reduces 1 whole pg.
Ok and max pg/cpu and core passives are not max fitting skills, I see you didn't bother to read what i wrote either.
Have you ever read the light weapon operations or heavy weapon operations skills? It lowers cpu of all weapons in that skill sections, and weapon fitting opti skills lower pg of that weapon.
So having to repeat myself Ill say it again, WHEN YOU HAVE ALL FITTING SKILLS MAXED OUT AND YOU CAN'T FIR STUFF THEN CRY ABOUT CPU/PG NOT BEING ENOUGH. UNTIL THEN STOP CRYING THAT YOUR SUIT CAN'T FIT STUFF. You have 3 out of 5 fitting skills maxed out but your not done becaue you still need 2 out of 5 skills.
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843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.16 18:44:00 -
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Thurak1 wrote:843-Vika wrote:Thurak1 wrote:843-Vika wrote:Thurak1 wrote:What ccp has done to cal sent is ridiculous. I have maxed pg cpu and even maxed core upgrade to get as much as i can out of every suit.
My fitting choices are very very limited on a c1 dropsuit now. I can imagine it scales up from standard to proto. However on my c1 suit i cant use my blueprints. There just is not enough cpu / pg on the suit to even entertain the idea of using a bp.
If i want to use 3 shield extenders i use 3 standard shield reg. I cant fit anything better than standard. I can fit snandard everything on the suit and thats it not advanced not militia.
I also cant fit a forgegun on said suit. To do that i need to either get rid of sidearm and grenafde LOL or fit the hi slots will all regulators or leave empty.
So yea the cal sentinals have been boned pretty good on this one. Also simply on a numbers standpoint it is now the lowest of ALL dropsuits in pg / cpu. Even my lousy dragonfly scout bpo has better cpu and pg. You don't have max fitting skills if you dont have heavy/light weapon operations at level 5 since it lowers cpu cost of heavy/light weapons and if you don't have the weapon fitting opti skills to lower pg costs of weapons. When you get those then you can cry that cpu/pg is to low, but then again CCP DOES NOT want people to be able fit proto everything on your suit. They want you to have to sacrifice some thing to get the proto stuff you want. You obviously did not read what i wrote. Please come back and try again. Also HMG fitting optimization is % based and a very low number. for a standard gear HMG it reduces 1 whole pg. Ok and max pg/cpu and core passives are not max fitting skills, I see you didn't bother to read what i wrote either. Have you ever read the light weapon operations or heavy weapon operations skills? It lowers cpu of all weapons in that skill sections, and weapon fitting opti skills lower pg of that weapon. So having to repeat myself Ill say it again, WHEN YOU HAVE ALL FITTING SKILLS MAXED OUT AND YOU CAN'T FIR STUFF THEN CRY ABOUT CPU/PG NOT BEING ENOUGH. UNTIL THEN STOP CRYING THAT YOUR SUIT CAN'T FIT STUFF. You have 3 out of 5 fitting skills maxed out but your not done becaue you still need 2 out of 5 skills. Clearly you have a reading comprehension issue with the skill tree. the ONLY skill that reduced cpu and pg of a weapon are the ones that are specific to that weapon. Go ahaid look it up. Also its % based and here is a shocker. I found my math incorrect. HMG fitting opt at lvl 5 will give me a whopping 2 more pg. OPEN YOUR BLOODY EYES! I at least hope when ccp shoves a pipe up the cornhole of the fitting you use i will be there to squirt some lemon in the hole. You act as though i am talking about using a proto hmg on a basic suit but had you have read my original statement you might have picked up that i am talking about not even being able to fit 3 shield extenders ( you know what caldari are actually supposed to be good at ) with really anything other than basic gear. I also cant fit a forge gun on said fitting. The suit is so **** poor low on pg / cpu that i cant fit 3 shield extenders a sidearm a grenade and a forgegun. Not even with max forge gun fitting opt. Take a look yourself at protofits.com if you dont believe me.
AGAIN BECAUSE CCP DOES NOT WANT PEOPLE WITH FULL PROTO SUIT RUNNING AROUND. MEANING PROTO SUIT WITH ALL PROTO MODS AND PROTO WEAPONS. THAT IS WHY THEY DID THAT, AND 2 PG CAN MAKE ALL THE DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD ALONG WITH HEAVY WEAPON OPERATIONS SINCE IT LOWERS CXPU COSTS OF ALL HEAVY WEAPONS.
BUT SINCE YOU REFUSE TO LISTEN TO REASON ILL JUST SAY THIS, LEARN TO TAKER THE ADVISE OF THE ORIGINAL PLAYER BASE OF DUST, IM TALKING ABOUT THE WEEK 1 CLOSED BETA VETS THAT UNDERSTAND THE BASICS OF FITTING A SUIT.
tHE CHEAPER YOU MAKE STUFF COST ON YOUR SUIT THE MORE YOU CAN FIT, AND IF THAT DON'T MAKE SENCE TO YOU THEN YOUR A LOST CASE. |
843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.16 19:09:00 -
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Robocop Junior wrote:843-Vika wrote:Robocop Junior wrote:843-Vika wrote:Robocop Junior wrote:Maybe FoTM chasers are tired of you. Maybe I'm tired of your stupid posts. If you don't like my threads then you don't have to read them, or post on them. Mainly because no one gives a rats a$$ what you think. And if the FoTM chasers are tired of my threads, then I m doing it correctly, because the entire community is tired of them. Maybe the entire community is as naive as you. Maybe your the naive one if you think your correct and everyone else wrong. Maybe you should find your way out of Dust and leave it to the people that can wear their big boy pants. Maybe you mean you're. Maybe an entire community can be wrong(Mike Brown). Maybe if you had a **** you could pee standing up.
Okay now I see I'm dealing with an immature child, I'm happy your suit got screwed over like the rest.
As a Min scout my suit has never gotten touched by any nerf so I'm all good. And even when scouts were crap i was a min scout and still did good with it. So it's not the suit it's the player.
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843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.16 20:31:00 -
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Robocop Junior wrote:
Okay now I see I'm dealing with an immature child, I'm happy your suit got screwed over like the rest.
As a Min scout my suit has never gotten touched by any nerf so I'm all good. And even when scouts were crap i was a min scout and still did good with it. So it's not the suit it's the player.
Maybe if your suit WAS ever touched you could possibly understand the gripes people have. Maybe I just won, thanks for playing.[/quote]
Actually if I remember correctly there were some changes to the MIn Scout in charlie.
I think my pg/cpu got changed slightly and so did my suit eWAR stats( before passives ) because i have to use a second complex dampener to get under most scans now.
I chose min scout for 1 reason the hacking bonus, because as a scout i believe my job is to get intell on the nenmy while being able to take objectives as fast as possible while not being seen. For the longest time scouts, especially the min scout were at the bottom of the barrel, but i never once cried for a respec or askd for them to be buffed in any way and I'm not doing it now.
So if i can find ways to make the suit i chose work for my play style, why can't others? |
843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.16 20:41:00 -
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Beastlina wrote:843-Vika wrote:Lately all i see on the forums is the FoTM chasers crying and whining about there suits.
"They ruined my cal scout so now i need a respec"
"I don't have max fitting skills and i can't fit all proto on my suit, it need a pg/cpu buff"
Etc, etc, etc............
Didn't you people learn by now that if something seems to good to be true that it will get changed as soon as posible?
If you did then why the hell are you still going into the new FoTM instead of learning to use what you got.
Do you people know how many times i hear FoTM chasers cry and whine that they can't fit stuff because they wasted sp on the FoTM and now can't upgrade any fiotting skills, so when the FoTM changes they are whine and cry and b!tch that they need or deserve a respec because the suit or weapon they are using got change and its not the way it was before, and they want to spec into the new FoTM.
All I really have to say is CCP stop caving to the scrubs and changing things and giving respecs so they can chase the next FoTM, you are the devs, not the players and you should decide what happens and what does not happen towards development in the game. You had a diamond of a game and by listening to the scrubs whine and cry you have turned into a lump of coal. Please then, explain the difference between someone who wasted sp on FoTM and wasting sp on a suit they wanted just because it looked fun to them.
Simple, when a person picks a suit that has the most OP passive skill combination for that suit class, then after it gets changed jumps on the next one.
Example #1--------People who chose Cal Logi at start of Uprising because it gave reduction to equipment and gave shield extenders a bonus hp as it passives------then when it got changed never used it again-------then cried for respec when it got because they said they had wasted sp.
Example #2--------People who chose to use the tac-ar only because it had the longest range------ then after it got nerfed never touched it again--------then cried for a respec because of wasted sp.
Those are the FoTM chasers.
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