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TechMechMeds
Level 5 Forum Warrior
5142
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Posted - 2014.08.16 14:17:00 -
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Minmatar mk0 assault
Highs - 3 complex shields, 1 enhanced energizer
Lows - 3 complex shield regulators, 1 complex or enhanced reactive plate
Weapons - whatever with a toxin/std SMG and m1 locus
Equipment - compact hive
Iv not tried it yet bit it will hopefully be pretty glorious for hit and run.
A rolling nade is worth two in ambush.
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
4012
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Posted - 2014.08.16 14:18:00 -
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Charge shot...pew pew pew and maybe an extra pew just in case :D
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
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Bad Heal
Murphys-Law
156
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Posted - 2014.08.16 14:19:00 -
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No need for three regulators |
Freccia di Lybra
Maphia Clan Corporation
249
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Posted - 2014.08.16 14:21:00 -
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Bad Heal wrote:No need for three regulators
Right, the third regulator doesn't change much, after all...
Ei fu,
xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
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TechMechMeds
Level 5 Forum Warrior
5143
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Posted - 2014.08.16 14:22:00 -
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Bad Heal wrote:No need for three regulators
Why not?.
2 is a bit less than 80%, how else would I achieve 100% reduced delay?.
A rolling nade is worth two in ambush.
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
3205
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Posted - 2014.08.16 14:22:00 -
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You'd die relatively quickly to my ScPs. It'll be even worse for you if I get a headshot in. |
TechMechMeds
Level 5 Forum Warrior
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Posted - 2014.08.16 14:23:00 -
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Freccia di Lybra wrote:Bad Heal wrote:No need for three regulators Right, the third regulator doesn't change much, after all...
Yet it gives a definite 100% reduced delay, which is what I was aiming for.
A rolling nade is worth two in ambush.
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TechMechMeds
Level 5 Forum Warrior
5143
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Posted - 2014.08.16 14:26:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:You'd die relatively quickly to my ScPs. It'll be even worse for you if I get a headshot in.
Sh!t happens.
Such is dust.
Remember your statement next time you get ohked by anything lol.
A rolling nade is worth two in ambush.
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
3206
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Posted - 2014.08.16 14:30:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:You'd die relatively quickly to my ScPs. It'll be even worse for you if I get a headshot in. Sh!t happens. Such is dust. Remember your statement next time you get ohked by anything lol.
I've been getting ohkoed all week... Then again, my proto scout does only have 249 eHP. |
TechMechMeds
Level 5 Forum Warrior
5145
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Posted - 2014.08.16 14:32:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:You'd die relatively quickly to my ScPs. It'll be even worse for you if I get a headshot in. Sh!t happens. Such is dust. Remember your statement next time you get ohked by anything lol. I've been getting ohkoed all week... Then again, my proto scout does only have 249 eHP.
Hehe.
A rolling nade is worth two in ambush.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
2151
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Posted - 2014.08.16 14:48:00 -
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The closer you get to 100% the harder diminishing returns kick in. It works like the resistance algorithm on EVE hardeners. It is impossible to hit 100% resists even with a ship that starts with 65% resists to that damage type.
The game mechanics dont allow for the complete elimination of shield delay
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Bad Heal
Murphys-Law
157
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Posted - 2014.08.16 14:51:00 -
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Speed is your friend as a minmatar
Or you could duel tank... not a good idea to be slow for many reasons
As a caldari my shields are my life. No shields, death. So I understand what you're trying to do but there are better options
How about this, why aren't you running three energizers? Doesn't make sense for obvious reasons.
I suggest you try 1 regulator, 1 reactive, 1 ferroscale, and 1 kin Kat to start |
TechMechMeds
Level 5 Forum Warrior
5146
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Posted - 2014.08.16 14:52:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:The closer you get to 100% the harder diminishing returns kick in. It works like the resistance algorithm on EVE hardeners. It is impossible to hit 100% resists even with a ship that starts with 65% resists to that damage type.
The game mechanics dont allow for the complete elimination of shield delay
Well each one gives 35% + 10% passive.
I don't know what it would be but its as close as possible to 100%.
A rolling nade is worth two in ambush.
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TechMechMeds
Level 5 Forum Warrior
5146
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Posted - 2014.08.16 14:55:00 -
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Bad Heal wrote:Speed is your friend as a minmatar
Or you could duel tank... not a good idea to be slow for many reasons
As a caldari my shields are my life. No shields, death. So I understand what you're trying to do but there are better options
How about this, why aren't you running three energizers? Doesn't make sense for obvious reasons.
I suggest you try 1 regulator, 1 reactive, 1 ferroscale, and 1 kin Kat to start
Its not what I run normally.
My actual regular fit is
3 complex shield, 1 enhanced energizer
2 shield regulators, 1 complex reactive, 1 kin kat.
A rolling nade is worth two in ambush.
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Freccia di Lybra
Maphia Clan Corporation
253
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Posted - 2014.08.16 14:59:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Bad Heal wrote:Speed is your friend as a minmatar
Or you could duel tank... not a good idea to be slow for many reasons
As a caldari my shields are my life. No shields, death. So I understand what you're trying to do but there are better options
How about this, why aren't you running three energizers? Doesn't make sense for obvious reasons.
I suggest you try 1 regulator, 1 reactive, 1 ferroscale, and 1 kin Kat to start Its not what I run normally. My actual regular fit is 3 complex shield, 1 enhanced energizer 2 shield regulators, 1 complex reactive, 1 kin kat.
Now this fit makes much more sense imo: you're using a fast regen on a fast suit with balanced tank.
I know people who
Complex dmg mod x3
Enhanced Dmg mod
Complex Armor plate x2
Enhanced Armor plate
Complex Armor Rep
Ei fu,
xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
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Kaze Eyrou
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
471
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Posted - 2014.08.16 15:12:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:The closer you get to 100% the harder diminishing returns kick in. It works like the resistance algorithm on EVE hardeners. It is impossible to hit 100% resists even with a ship that starts with 65% resists to that damage type.
The game mechanics dont allow for the complete elimination of shield delay
Well each one gives 35% + 10% passive. I don't know what it would be but its as close as possible to 100%.
Plug it into www.protofits.com.
Before Shield Regs you have:
Shield Delay: 6 seconds
Shield Depleted Delay: 8 seconds (9.8 seconds after your Shield Extenders)
After Shield Regs:
Shield Delay: 1.92 seconds
Shield Depleted Delay: 3.13 seconds
Point being is, it's not 100% (it's 38%, 33%, 27% for the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, repectively).
Closed Beta Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou
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Kaze Eyrou
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
471
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Posted - 2014.08.16 15:14:00 -
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Bad Heal wrote:Speed is your friend as a minmatar
Or you could duel tank... not a good idea to be slow for many reasons
As a caldari my shields are my life. No shields, death. So I understand what you're trying to do but there are better options
How about this, why aren't you running three energizers? Doesn't make sense for obvious reasons.
I suggest you try 1 regulator, 1 reactive, 1 ferroscale, and 1 kin Kat to start
Just to let you know, Minmatars have an inherent cardiac regulator plugged into their suits now. Check their stamina rechange rate.
Closed Beta Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou
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TechMechMeds
Level 5 Forum Warrior
5148
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Posted - 2014.08.16 15:16:00 -
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Kaze Eyrou wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:The closer you get to 100% the harder diminishing returns kick in. It works like the resistance algorithm on EVE hardeners. It is impossible to hit 100% resists even with a ship that starts with 65% resists to that damage type.
The game mechanics dont allow for the complete elimination of shield delay
Well each one gives 35% + 10% passive. I don't know what it would be but its as close as possible to 100%. Plug it into www.protofits.com. Before Shield Regs you have: Shield Delay: 6 seconds Shield Depleted Delay: 8 seconds (9.8 seconds after your Shield Extenders) After Shield Regs: Shield Delay: 1.92 seconds Shield Depleted Delay: 3.13 seconds Point being is, it's not 100% (it's 38%, 33%, 27% for the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, repectively).
Thank you, I forgot the diminishing return percentage values.
I also forgot about the (what I'd call) recently added shield delay that's added with shields now.
A rolling nade is worth two in ambush.
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TechMechMeds
Level 5 Forum Warrior
5148
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Posted - 2014.08.16 15:17:00 -
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Freccia di Lybra wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Bad Heal wrote:Speed is your friend as a minmatar
Or you could duel tank... not a good idea to be slow for many reasons
As a caldari my shields are my life. No shields, death. So I understand what you're trying to do but there are better options
How about this, why aren't you running three energizers? Doesn't make sense for obvious reasons.
I suggest you try 1 regulator, 1 reactive, 1 ferroscale, and 1 kin Kat to start Its not what I run normally. My actual regular fit is 3 complex shield, 1 enhanced energizer 2 shield regulators, 1 complex reactive, 1 kin kat. Now this fit makes much more sense imo: you're using a fast regen on a fast suit with balanced tank. I know people who Complex dmg mod x3 Enhanced Dmg mod Complex Armor plate x2 Enhanced Armor plate Complex Armor Rep
He he, I know that the game is 'play your way' but that fit disgusts me.
A rolling nade is worth two in ambush.
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