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        |  The True Inferno
 Myrmidon Syndicate
 
 50
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.16 02:53:00 -
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 I would like to know the communities views on this dropship.
 
 For me, I think the Small Railgun Turret needs some rebalancing, as its efficiency is all muddled up, does huge damage and when place on a incubus, it becomes a drop ship and vehicle denier. Against Pythons, the incubus and its rail turret get a bonus efficiency to shields, which it should not, and has an absurd amount of available hp and a quite high ROF.
 
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        |  ACT1ON BASTARD
 Amarr Templars
 Amarr Empire
 
 52
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.16 05:32:00 -
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 How bout no dropships are fine the way they are. Im a 20 something mil dropshipper so i know this shiy like the back of my hand, sir!
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        |  Apothecary Za'ki
 Biomass Positive
 
 499
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.16 05:37:00 -
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 ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:How bout no dropships are fine the way they are. Im a 20 something mil dropshipper so i know this shiy like the back of my hand, sir! as much as i hate to agree with you ADS pilots i cant see the rail rifle being wrong.. its a hard counter to the shield ADS where as the shield ads with missiles is hard counter to the armor on the armor ads.
 
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        |  Pvt Numnutz
 Prophets of the Velocirapture
 
 1800
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.16 05:45:00 -
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 Apothecary Za'ki wrote:ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:How bout no dropships are fine the way they are. Im a 20 something mil dropshipper so i know this shiy like the back of my hand, sir! as much as i hate to agree with you ADS pilots i cant see the rail rifle being wrong.. its a hard counter to the shield ADS where as the shield ads with missiles is hard counter to the armor on the armor ads. Actually a python has no chance against an incubus, even with gunner's. Missiles are horrible for air to air and very unreliable, unlike the !much faster shooting pinpoint railgun of the incubus.
 
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        |  ACT1ON BASTARD
 Amarr Templars
 Amarr Empire
 
 52
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.16 05:48:00 -
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 Pvt Numnutz wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:How bout no dropships are fine the way they are. Im a 20 something mil dropshipper so i know this shiy like the back of my hand, sir! as much as i hate to agree with you ADS pilots i cant see the rail rifle being wrong.. its a hard counter to the shield ADS where as the shield ads with missiles is hard counter to the armor on the armor ads. Actually a python has no chance against an incubus, even with gunner's. Missiles are horrible for air to air and very unreliable, unlike the !much faster shooting pinpoint railgun of the incubus. I destroy incubuts. The only problem i ever have are those gunner incubuts theyre scary.
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        |  ACT1ON BASTARD
 Amarr Templars
 Amarr Empire
 
 52
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.16 05:49:00 -
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 ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:Pvt Numnutz wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:How bout no dropships are fine the way they are. Im a 20 something mil dropshipper so i know this shiy like the back of my hand, sir! as much as i hate to agree with you ADS pilots i cant see the rail rifle being wrong.. its a hard counter to the shield ADS where as the shield ads with missiles is hard counter to the armor on the armor ads. Actually a python has no chance against an incubus, even with gunner's. Missiles are horrible for air to air and very unreliable, unlike the !much faster shooting pinpoint railgun of the incubus. I destroy incubuts. The only problem i ever have are those gunner incubuts theyre scary. Oh yeah im a python user maxed out.
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        |  Darth-Carbonite GIO
 Abandoned Privilege
 Top Men.
 
 710
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.16 06:08:00 -
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 ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:I destroy incubutts.
 
 Uh huh.. Sure you do
 
 
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        |  The True Inferno
 Myrmidon Syndicate
 
 50
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.16 06:47:00 -
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 ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:How bout no dropships are fine the way they are. Im a 20 something mil dropshipper so i know this shiy like the back of my hand, sir! 
 So do I, sir!
 
 Maxed Python + lvl 4 reload+ lvl 3 Missile cpu reduction
 
 And lvl 2 Incubus(Which I am working on)
 
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        |  ACT1ON BASTARD
 Amarr Templars
 Amarr Empire
 
 53
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.16 06:57:00 -
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 The True Inferno wrote:ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:How bout no dropships are fine the way they are. Im a 20 something mil dropshipper so i know this shiy like the back of my hand, sir! So do I, sir! Maxed Python + lvl 4 reload+ lvl 3 Missile cpu reduction And lvl 2 Incubus(Which I am working on) Check this out i can kill infantry and vehicles in a python w missles. An incubus can only kill vehicles.It should have the advantage against the python. If you wanna kill an incubus just do some turns and get behind him, unload and blast his ass. Just dont let em even start shooting you because they do melt.
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        |  The True Inferno
 Myrmidon Syndicate
 
 50
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.16 07:19:00 -
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 ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:The True Inferno wrote:ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:How bout no dropships are fine the way they are. Im a 20 something mil dropshipper so i know this shiy like the back of my hand, sir! So do I, sir! Maxed Python + lvl 4 reload+ lvl 3 Missile cpu reduction And lvl 2 Incubus(Which I am working on) Check this out i can kill infantry and vehicles in a python w missles. An incubus can only kill vehicles.It should have the advantage against the python. If you wanna kill an incubus just do some turns and get behind him, unload and blast his ass. Just dont let em even start shooting you because they do melt. 
 True, both should have their own advantages and disadvantages, though if they have any skill, they will maneuver away long before their armor drops, giving the speed the missiles, its much harder to hit them when flying. Push in the factor that turret railguns do more damage to shields(even though their not meant to) you know who will win. I would suggest to first, for the rail-turret, to fix the efficiencies of the turret(currently, it only does around 60% damage to tanks, though full damage against lavs and dropships), tune down its damage to around 200 for basic, around 300 for proto, so its not twice the dps of a missle turret, slightly increase its aoe and lower its heat build-up, though heat reduction should be a incubus skill.
 
 Though, what happened to my dam accelerated missiles?
 
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        |  Pvt Numnutz
 Prophets of the Velocirapture
 
 1801
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.16 07:21:00 -
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 ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:The True Inferno wrote:ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:How bout no dropships are fine the way they are. Im a 20 something mil dropshipper so i know this shiy like the back of my hand, sir! So do I, sir! Maxed Python + lvl 4 reload+ lvl 3 Missile cpu reduction And lvl 2 Incubus(Which I am working on) Check this out i can kill infantry and vehicles in a python w missles. An incubus can only kill vehicles.It should have the advantage against the python. If you wanna kill an incubus just do some turns and get behind him, unload and blast his ass. Just dont let em even start shooting you because they do melt. Missiles don't do enough damage fast enough and are to inaccurate to kill an incubus. Unless of course that incubus pilot is really really bad and can't aim, in which case a python !right have a chance.
 
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        |  The True Inferno
 Myrmidon Syndicate
 
 50
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.16 07:30:00 -
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 ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:The True Inferno wrote:ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:How bout no dropships are fine the way they are. Im a 20 something mil dropshipper so i know this shiy like the back of my hand, sir! So do I, sir! Maxed Python + lvl 4 reload+ lvl 3 Missile cpu reduction And lvl 2 Incubus(Which I am working on) Check this out i can kill infantry and vehicles in a python w missles.An incubus can only kill vehicles .It should have the advantage against the python. If you wanna kill an incubus just do some turns and get behind him, unload and blast his ass. Just dont let em even start shooting you because they do melt. 
 Also I can still kill people with a rail turret, blaster turret and the underside of the incubus.
 
 Oh and small blaster turrets have a higher dps than large ones, and if its with the incubus skill maxed, its over 1600.
 
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        |  Shooter Somewhere
 Molon Labe.
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 34
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.16 07:39:00 -
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 The True Inferno wrote:I would like to know the communities views on this dropship.
 For me, I think the Small Railgun Turret needs some rebalancing, as its efficiency is all muddled up, does huge damage and when place on a incubus, it becomes a drop ship and vehicle denier. Against Pythons, the incubus and its rail turret get a bonus efficiency to shields, which it should not, and has an absurd amount of available hp and a quite high ROF.
 
 INC is fine man. IT is a pain having to deal with them when im in my tank but you need to learn certain ways to get them low and in front of you to nail their ass.
 
 As for pythons its gtfo bro. No python should ever stand a chance in hell against inc. They own the sky one way or another. im surprised I don't see more inc with blasters they wreck your python shield with bonus. Stacking or not.
 
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        |  The True Inferno
 Myrmidon Syndicate
 
 50
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.16 07:44:00 -
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 Shooter Somewhere wrote:The True Inferno wrote:I would like to know the communities views on this dropship.
 For me, I think the Small Railgun Turret needs some rebalancing, as its efficiency is all muddled up, does huge damage and when place on a incubus, it becomes a drop ship and vehicle denier. Against Pythons, the incubus and its rail turret get a bonus efficiency to shields, which it should not, and has an absurd amount of available hp and a quite high ROF.
 INC is fine man. IT is a pain having to deal with them when im in my tank but you need to learn certain ways to get them low and in front of you to nail their ass.  As for pythons its gtfo bro. No python should ever stand a chance in hell against inc*. They own the sky one way or another. im surprised I don't see more inc with blasters they wreck your python shield with bonus**. Stacking or not.  
 *There should be no vehicle that dominates a one role, same as a dropsuit, balance dude.
 
 **I wonder this aswell, though currently railguns are still more effective against shields.
 
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        |  TEBOW BAGGINS
 GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
 
 1163
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.16 07:51:00 -
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 Pvt Numnutz wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:How bout no dropships are fine the way they are. Im a 20 something mil dropshipper so i know this shiy like the back of my hand, sir! as much as i hate to agree with you ADS pilots i cant see the rail rifle being wrong.. its a hard counter to the shield ADS where as the shield ads with missiles is hard counter to the armor on the armor ads. Actually a python has no chance against an incubus, even with gunner's. Missiles are horrible for air to air and very unreliable, unlike the !much faster shooting pinpoint railgun of the incubus. 
 it's not that extensive to skill into both ships, you can't expect to wtfpwn infantry and everything else with python, get incubus if you wanna go after vehicles, get python to kill moar inf. all this perfect balance crap goes on for 2 years already,
 
 groundwise there is nothing left to nerf so now the eyes of the witch hunters have turned to the skies
 
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        |  ACT1ON BASTARD
 Amarr Templars
 Amarr Empire
 
 54
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.16 07:52:00 -
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 The True Inferno wrote:Shooter Somewhere wrote:The True Inferno wrote:I would like to know the communities views on this dropship.
 For me, I think the Small Railgun Turret needs some rebalancing, as its efficiency is all muddled up, does huge damage and when place on a incubus, it becomes a drop ship and vehicle denier. Against Pythons, the incubus and its rail turret get a bonus efficiency to shields, which it should not, and has an absurd amount of available hp and a quite high ROF.
 INC is fine man. IT is a pain having to deal with them when im in my tank but you need to learn certain ways to get them low and in front of you to nail their ass.  As for pythons its gtfo bro. No python should ever stand a chance in hell against inc*. They own the sky one way or another. im surprised I don't see more inc with blasters they wreck your python shield with bonus**. Stacking or not.  *There should be no vehicle that dominates a one role, same as a dropsuit, balance dude. **I wonder this aswell, though currently railguns are still more effective against shields. Screw balance why have rail tanks then, they dominate missle and blaster tanks.
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        |  The dark cloud
 The Rainbow Effect
 
 3953
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.16 08:13:00 -
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 The True Inferno wrote:I would like to know the communities views on this dropship.
 For me, I think the Small Railgun Turret needs some rebalancing, as its efficiency is all muddled up, does huge damage and when place on a incubus, it becomes a drop ship and vehicle denier. Against Pythons, the incubus and its rail turret get a bonus efficiency to shields, which it should not, and has an absurd amount of available hp and a quite high ROF.
 No the dropship and the turret is perfectly fine and does the job which it is intended for and that is AV. You choosed the python with missiles to be effective vs infantry. And the HP on the incubus is due to armor plates giving much more HP then shields and aswell give a mobility panelty. If you dont like your vehicle then you should have thought about it before dumping SP into it.
 
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        |  TEBOW BAGGINS
 GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
 
 1163
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.16 08:14:00 -
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 The True Inferno wrote:ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:The True Inferno wrote:ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:How bout no dropships are fine the way they are. Im a 20 something mil dropshipper so i know this shiy like the back of my hand, sir! So do I, sir! Maxed Python + lvl 4 reload+ lvl 3 Missile cpu reduction And lvl 2 Incubus(Which I am working on) Check this out i can kill infantry and vehicles in a python w missles. An incubus can only kill vehicles.It should have the advantage against the python. If you wanna kill an incubus just do some turns and get behind him, unload and blast his ass. Just dont let em even start shooting you because they do melt. True, both should have their own advantages and disadvantages, though if they have any skill, they will maneuver away long before their armor drops, giving the speed the missiles, its much harder to hit them when flying. Push in the factor that turret railguns do more damage to shields(even though their not meant to) you know who will win. I would suggest to first, for the rail-turret, to fix the efficiencies of the turret(currently, it only does around 60% damage to tanks, though full damage against lavs and dropships), tune down its damage to around 200 for basic, around 300 for proto, so its not twice the dps of a missle turret, slightly increase its aoe and lower its heat build-up, though heat reduction should be a incubus skill. Though, what happened to my dam accelerated missiles? 
 you have to out think the incubus pilot, wait til he engages something else and looses focus on your python. the trick is to ambush the other dropship and be kinda patient about it a missle python can wreck an incubus if timed right there needs to be no nerf at all.. why do want the AOE increased? the weapon requires mad skill to kill infantry with from a dropship, your just turning it into a slop weapon for less payoff.. if vehicles being oppressed such is the problem then adjust their resistance to rails but leave the damage and AOE alone
 
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        |  The True Inferno
 Myrmidon Syndicate
 
 50
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.16 09:01:00 -
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 TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:The True Inferno wrote:ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:The True Inferno wrote:ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:How bout no dropships are fine the way they are. Im a 20 something mil dropshipper so i know this shiy like the back of my hand, sir! So do I, sir! Maxed Python + lvl 4 reload+ lvl 3 Missile cpu reduction And lvl 2 Incubus(Which I am working on) Check this out i can kill infantry and vehicles in a python w missles. An incubus can only kill vehicles.It should have the advantage against the python. If you wanna kill an incubus just do some turns and get behind him, unload and blast his ass. Just dont let em even start shooting you because they do melt. True, both should have their own advantages and disadvantages, though if they have any skill, they will maneuver away long before their armor drops, giving the speed the missiles, its much harder to hit them when flying. Push in the factor that turret railguns do more damage to shields(even though their not meant to) you know who will win. I would suggest to first, for the rail-turret, to fix the efficiencies of the turret(currently, it only does around 60% damage to tanks, though full damage against lavs and dropships), tune down its damage to around 200 for basic, around 300 for proto, so its not twice the dps of a missle turret, slightly increase its aoe and lower its heat build-up, though heat reduction should be a incubus skill. Though, what happened to my dam accelerated missiles? you have to out think the incubus pilot, wait til he engages something else and looses focus on your python. the trick is to ambush the other dropship and be kinda patient about it a missle python can wreck an incubus if timed right there needs to be no nerf at all.. why do want the AOE increased? the weapon requires mad skill to kill infantry with from a dropship, your just turning it into a slop weapon for less payoff.. if vehicles being oppressed such is the problem then adjust their resistance to rails but leave the damage and AOE alone 
 Notes taken, and I have ambushed them before, they die quickest when using gunners :D
 
 
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