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Coleman Gray
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.08.15 21:52:00 -
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6000 rpm lol how long is that gonna stay? Has it always had that rpm? I never noticed, usually just use boundless o.o
If Preparation is half of the battle and knowing is the other half, Then there is no need to fight.
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JUDASisMYhomeboy
xCosmic Voidx
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
66
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Posted - 2014.08.15 21:54:00 -
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Must be ridiculous if even hmg guys think its op |
Criteria Shipment
The Hundred Acre Hood
Dark Taboo
945
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Posted - 2014.08.15 21:55:00 -
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Coleman Gray wrote:6000 rpm lol how long is that gonna stay? Has it always had that rpm? I never noticed, usually just use boundless o.o
CCP buffed the RPM only to have a faster heat build-up time. I've experienced the RPM before the patch. Those were godly. Dear Lord of what they would look like now... |
Michael Arck
5234
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Posted - 2014.08.15 21:57:00 -
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It will get nerfed eventually.
Archistrategos
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
11720
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Posted - 2014.08.15 22:00:00 -
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Takes the same amount of bursts to overheat, but DPS was doubled.
Seems legit.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Coleman Gray
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
1073
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Posted - 2014.08.15 22:02:00 -
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JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote:Must be ridiculous if even hmg guys think its op
Put this way, as long as that dot is on your target, one press of the button is a dead player.
If Preparation is half of the battle and knowing is the other half, Then there is no need to fight.
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JUDASisMYhomeboy
xCosmic Voidx
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
66
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Posted - 2014.08.15 22:15:00 -
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Coleman Gray wrote:JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote:Must be ridiculous if even hmg guys think its op Put this way, as long as that dot is on your target, one press of the button is a dead player.
Ughh 3 months of this coming. Good thing it cant be put on a scout |
Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
3463
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Posted - 2014.08.15 22:35:00 -
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Coleman Gray wrote:JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote:Must be ridiculous if even hmg guys think its op Put this way, as long as that dot is on your target, one press of the button is a dead player.
Yes.
Want ISK? I'm giving it away!
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castba
Merc-0107
569
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Posted - 2014.08.15 22:38:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Takes the same amount of bursts to overheat, but DPS was doubled.
Seems legit.
Damage per burst was reduced making overheat more likely. |
Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
11724
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Posted - 2014.08.15 22:40:00 -
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castba wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Takes the same amount of bursts to overheat, but DPS was doubled.
Seems legit. Damage per burst was reduced making overheat more likely.
Interesting, can you tell that to the proto heavy I downed with two bursts?
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Guiltless D667
77
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Posted - 2014.08.15 22:43:00 -
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Tried it ,it's the heavy minmatar shotgun that reaches 30m,let that sink in for minute.
A Strange Game.
Crysis 514
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Sclompton Face-Smasher
uptown456
Dark Taboo
55
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Posted - 2014.08.15 22:49:00 -
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Guiltless D667 wrote:Tried it ,it's the heavy minmatar shotgun that reaches 30m,let that sink in for minute.
lol is the a video to show me this glorious destruction?
Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder
Weapon: Pro Shotty, Sniper, and Scrambler Rifle
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castba
Merc-0107
569
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Posted - 2014.08.15 23:13:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:castba wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Takes the same amount of bursts to overheat, but DPS was doubled.
Seems legit. Damage per burst was reduced making overheat more likely. Interesting, can you tell that to the proto heavy I downed with two bursts?
Your evidence is strong however I must point out that damage per round has been decreased about 15% @ pro) yet the number of rounds per burst (45) has not changed. |
Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
11739
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Posted - 2014.08.16 11:22:00 -
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castba wrote:Cat Merc wrote:castba wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Takes the same amount of bursts to overheat, but DPS was doubled.
Seems legit. Damage per burst was reduced making overheat more likely. Interesting, can you tell that to the proto heavy I downed with two bursts? Your evidence is strong however I must point out that damage per round has been decreased about 15% @ pro) yet the number of rounds per burst (45) has not changed.
Alright, look at it this way.
It does more damage per burst than a shotgun blast.
It has far more range.
Can fire again way faster.
And it can have around 6-7 bursts before overheat, compared to the shotgun clip of 8.
It's just an upgraded shotgun.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Sgt Buttscratch
R 0 N 1 N
2269
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Posted - 2014.08.16 11:26:00 -
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I jumped on my heavy the other night, prof.5 six kin with damage mods. The weird thing is no one dies, they just disappear.
Once again more proof there is no testing performed by CCP, just some guy sat on notepad guessing.
Give me my scrambler pistol back....**
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TechMechMeds
Level 5 Forum Warrior
5139
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Posted - 2014.08.16 12:34:00 -
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Hahaha.
I officially disapprove of this thread.
Leave my semi crutch alone.
A rolling nade is worth two in ambush.
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Ryme Intrinseca
Eurotrash Pubstars
1527
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Posted - 2014.08.16 12:44:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:castba wrote:Cat Merc wrote:castba wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Takes the same amount of bursts to overheat, but DPS was doubled.
Seems legit. Damage per burst was reduced making overheat more likely. Interesting, can you tell that to the proto heavy I downed with two bursts? Your evidence is strong however I must point out that damage per round has been decreased about 15% @ pro) yet the number of rounds per burst (45) has not changed. Alright, look at it this way. It does more damage per burst than a shotgun blast. It has far more range. Can fire again way faster. And it can have around 6-7 bursts before overheat, compared to the shotgun clip of 8. It's just an upgraded shotgun.
'More damage per burst' - 623.7 damage in a burst HMG burst, 504 in a shotgun blast. So yes, there is a little more damage in an HMG burst.
'Far more range' - this is the real differentiator, but it has to be like this. Heavies lack the speed, dampening, and cloak to get to point blank range, so their weapon has to be effective beyond that.
'Can fire again way faster' - actually its pretty much identical. Shotgun fires 1.42 times per second. The burst HMG takes 0.45 secs to complete its burst, then has a 0.225 burst interval, so it fires 1.48 times per second.
'around 6-7 bursts before overheat' - doubt you can manage 7, but even if you could, the shotgun can shoot 8 times before reload. Also, an HMG overheat takes much longer to finish than a shotgun reload and prevents you from switching to a sidearm or running. So basically you're screwed when your HMG overheats, but the shotgunner still has options when their main weapon is empty.
Overall I agree the burst HMG is better, as it should be. Heavy suit=a bit crap and heavy weapon=beast is the magic formula for making heavies actually use heavy weapons. |
Reign Omega
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
766
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Posted - 2014.08.16 13:14:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:castba wrote:Cat Merc wrote:castba wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Takes the same amount of bursts to overheat, but DPS was doubled.
Seems legit. Damage per burst was reduced making overheat more likely. Interesting, can you tell that to the proto heavy I downed with two bursts? Your evidence is strong however I must point out that damage per round has been decreased about 15% @ pro) yet the number of rounds per burst (45) has not changed. Alright, look at it this way. It does more damage per burst than a shotgun blast. It has far more range. Can fire again way faster. And it can have around 6-7 bursts before overheat, compared to the shotgun clip of 8. It's just an upgraded shotgun.
6 bursts, the 7th will overheat. It does not mathematically do more damage than it used to, but practically it does as the rpm increase allows more of the burst to hit the target faster allow me to explain.
A display of sucking that rivals the highest amount of sucking that a player has displayed in the history of sucking.-JR
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CoffinCheaterINC
Murphys-Law
2
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Posted - 2014.08.16 13:28:00 -
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It has alway's been OP in the right hands. This so called "buff" is an illusion. It always took out light frames with 1 burst, which 50% of the community runs and 2 bursts for a med frame. The boundless will still counter it in CQC. heavy 1v1 depends on who knows that straffing is the key. |
Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
11741
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Posted - 2014.08.16 13:49:00 -
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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:
Overall I agree the burst HMG is better, as it should be. Heavy suit=a bit crap and heavy weapon=beast is the magic formula for making heavies actually use heavy weapons.
Don't think that 1500~ eHP, and being one kin cat away from Assault speed, and laughing off explosives, can be considered bad.
They have their pros and cons, I don't think heavy weapons should be nearly as insane as they are now.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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CoffinCheaterINC
Murphys-Law
7
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Posted - 2014.08.16 13:51:00 -
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Meow |
Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
11741
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Posted - 2014.08.16 13:53:00 -
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CoffinCheaterINC wrote:It has alway's been OP in the right hands. This so called "buff" is an illusion. It always took out light frames with 1 burst, which 50% of the community runs and 2 bursts for a med frame. The boundless will still counter it in CQC. heavy 1v1 depends on who knows that straffing is the key.
Except bursts are now much shorter, meaning that more of the burst hits the target.
Similar situation with the combat rifle and burst AR.
It's a straight up buff IMHO.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
11741
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Posted - 2014.08.16 14:02:00 -
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Note: I'm not asking for a nerf.
I am of the opinion that as of right now, the meta didn't get a chance to cement itself.
I would like to see how things play out before any changes are made.
That includes the SCR, Nova Knives, Amarr Assault, and anything else people are whining about.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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TechMechMeds
Level 5 Forum Warrior
5142
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Posted - 2014.08.16 14:11:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Note: I'm not asking for a nerf.
I am of the opinion that as of right MEOW, the meta didn't get a chance to cement itself.
I would like to see how things play out before any changes are made.
That includes the SCR, Nova Knives, Amarr Assault, and anything else people are whining about.
Fixed.
A rolling nade is worth two in ambush.
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CoffinCheaterINC
Murphys-Law
7
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Posted - 2014.08.16 14:12:00 -
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I have used it everyday and to be honest I feel the overheat outweighs the buff in burst intervals. Just my 2cents |
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