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Shooter Somewhere
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.08.15 09:24:00 -
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Uh... NO more tanking for me. Waste of time and my isk and even some peoples money. I just played 6 games in a row where the enemy team called out 0 tanks in all of them. I don't blame them though I know im a scary tanker.
Was switching to blaster or ADS in order then? No. because AV was ever so present. Its just sad how AV has replaced the need for armor support in the game.
Heck we already have FG that deal almost as much damage as a double dmg modded partical cannon So theres your tank replacement right there
That should deal with 10k HP redline installs and of course dropships and tanks.
Because hitting some one with 300+ splash damage point down on them is sooooo hard.
So lets play "Call of Duty planetary warfare 515"
and yes I meant to type 515.
PS: Dear CCP.....Screw you guys! im goin hooorme..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p47AQIrTUKc
HEADSHOT! HEADSHOT!! HEADSHOT!!! HEADSHOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
61
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Posted - 2014.08.15 09:26:00 -
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Where did you write this from? Starbucks? |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
2051
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Posted - 2014.08.15 09:27:00 -
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Please tell me you use hardeners.
If you do not, I'm going to mock you relentlessly off the forums. |
WeapondigitX V7
The Exemplars Top Men.
161
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Posted - 2014.08.15 10:21:00 -
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Tanking is now harder to do. You need to play more defensively sometimes in matches for a higher survival rate. Playing offensively is just more risky now.
That's my experience in my militia tanks. |
Grimm Hammer
Sacred Initiative of Combat Killers IMMORTAL REGIME
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Posted - 2014.08.15 10:23:00 -
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WeapondigitX V7 wrote:Tanking is now harder to do. You need to play more defensively sometimes in matches for a higher survival rate. Playing offensively is just more risky now.
That's my experience in my militia tanks.
seen u burning all those faction commando ak.0s night before charlie weapon ;) GGs |
WeapondigitX V7
The Exemplars Top Men.
163
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Posted - 2014.08.15 10:37:00 -
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Yeah, Already got full proto lv5 commando though. Its why I rarely use faction stuff.
Only really used those AKOs a lot 1 week before Charlie. I had 25 of them. |
Operative 1125 Lokaas
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
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Posted - 2014.08.15 10:39:00 -
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Yeah, I'm getting sick of the infantry sci-fi wonder weapons. All these ppl that think an FPS is supposed to be an infantry only arena game. Boring. This is supposed to be a ground forces game. It was also supposed to connect to a greater aspect of engagment through EVE. Shows what happens when you don't make the greater connection first then do the FPS like aspects. All the little kiddie console shooters come out of the woodwork.
You know it's going down the drain when something like nova knives damage tanks now. Wuh? Even a rifle doesn't do that. Did the infantry TANKOPHOBES really b*tch loudly enough somewhere that they got this totally out of place mechanic? At least let all weapons damage tanks.
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Grimm Hammer
Sacred Initiative of Combat Killers IMMORTAL REGIME
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Posted - 2014.08.15 10:40:00 -
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WeapondigitX V7 wrote:Yeah, Already got full proto lv5 commando though. Its why I rarely use faction stuff.
Only really used those AKOs a lot 1 week before Charlie. I had 25 of them.
yep i burned mine tht night too....ill miss my three weapon slots on tht suit |
Shooter Somewhere
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
30
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Posted - 2014.08.15 11:26:00 -
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Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote:Yeah, I'm getting sick of the infantry sci-fi wonder weapons. All these ppl that think an FPS is supposed to be an infantry only arena game. Boring. This is supposed to be a ground forces game. It was also supposed to connect to a greater aspect of engagment through EVE. Shows what happens when you don't make the greater connection first then do the FPS like aspects. All the little kiddie console shooters come out of the woodwork.
You know it's going down the drain when something like nova knives damage tanks now. Wuh? Even a rifle doesn't do that. Did the infantry TANKOPHOBES really b*tch loudly enough somewhere that they got this totally out of place mechanic? At least let all weapons damage tanks.
Yeah.. logi bros argument was its plasma and it should penetrate easily or some crap like that. Then why done AR or Shot guns kill tank pilots in their tanks? Man it really is annoying how after every update we continue to have new problems we have to deal with. Nothing new or unique for us.
So that's why I quit its to much of a stress to not be able to offer anything but self benefit out side of pubs. I can still got like 30/3 with an easy 3000 WP but if I wanted to do crap like that id go be another chopper ***** on BF3
Like I said im done with the mechanic of tanking Its a waste right now and it probably wont get changed.
HEADSHOT! HEADSHOT!! HEADSHOT!!! HEADSHOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=earCbU6vgAo
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
3183
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Posted - 2014.08.15 12:08:00 -
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I can do just fine with my Ion cannon, do quick runs around the map don't to the middle of a cluster **** or you'll probably die. I'm a slayer first tanker when I'm bored.
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Shooter Somewhere
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
30
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Posted - 2014.08.15 12:57:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:I can do just fine with my Ion cannon, do quick runs around the map don't to the middle of a cluster **** or you'll probably die. I'm a slayer first tanker when I'm bored.
Oh so basicly drive around that map picking of strays? Don't go anywhere near the objective(s) where you are needed those most? Watch out for yourself and your kdr huh?
Yup nyain san alright.
HEADSHOT! HEADSHOT!! HEADSHOT!!! HEADSHOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
432
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Posted - 2014.08.15 13:06:00 -
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Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote:Yeah, I'm getting sick of the infantry sci-fi wonder weapons. All these ppl that think an FPS is supposed to be an infantry only arena game. Boring. This is supposed to be a ground forces game. It was also supposed to connect to a greater aspect of engagment through EVE. Shows what happens when you don't make the greater connection first then do the FPS like aspects. All the little kiddie console shooters come out of the woodwork.
You know it's going down the drain when something like nova knives damage tanks now. Wuh? Even a rifle doesn't do that. Did the infantry TANKOPHOBES really b*tch loudly enough somewhere that they got this totally out of place mechanic? At least let all weapons damage tanks.
>Sci-Fi wonder weapons
If we want to talk Sci-Fi, tanks shouldn't exist. We have handheld tech in the real world that shreds tanks. We only deploy tanks now in proxy wars or against dirt farmers and goat herders. Eve is ww2 naval combat in space, you can't rely on Sci-Fi to defend the IP. In terms of game mechanics, we saw what happens when AV can't stop tanks in 1.7. The majority agreed this isn't fun. Tanking is a serious threat which when ignored rolls an entire team and when addressed get focus fired into oblivion.
We had two choices then. Tanks that were unstoppable which made infantry play only possible inside of buildings. Or Tanks that are vulnerable. You still ignore that tanks are immune to most weapons, that AV you hate isn't. Use combined arms or don't be surprised when you get hard countered.
The only other option to compensate for tanks being hard to kill would to inversely make them ****** at hurting infantry... if that's what you want I'm all for that, re purposing tanks as solely AV vehicles. |
Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
11701
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Posted - 2014.08.15 13:20:00 -
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If Nova Knives killed your tank, you might want to look at yourself and reevaluate your choices.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Shooter Somewhere
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
30
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Posted - 2014.08.15 13:43:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:If Nova Knives killed your tank, you might want to look at yourself and reevaluate your choices.
I have yet to be killed by any knives yet jap
HEADSHOT! HEADSHOT!! HEADSHOT!!! HEADSHOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
11705
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Posted - 2014.08.15 14:23:00 -
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Shooter Somewhere wrote:Cat Merc wrote:If Nova Knives killed your tank, you might want to look at yourself and reevaluate your choices. I have yet to be killed by any knives yet jap Jap?
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
3184
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Posted - 2014.08.15 14:25:00 -
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Shooter Somewhere wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:I can do just fine with my Ion cannon, do quick runs around the map don't to the middle of a cluster **** or you'll probably die. I'm a slayer first tanker when I'm bored. Oh so basicly drive around that map picking of strays? Don't go anywhere near the objective(s) where you are needed those most? Watch out for yourself and your kdr huh? Yup nyain san alright. No I play dom dipshit.. How bout killing them before they get to the point? I don't mind losing 500k tank if our team is pushing. But most the time you get stacked squads on the other side, I usually solo. If you don't want to change your tactics a bit then gtfo the tank. We have been nerfed harder than this before. You're right as a cal assault player I do watch out for myself when I'm solo.. Considering we're not the cqc suit. Tanks should not be able to tank that much AV so I advise you watch what you're doing, I never said don't push the point and hide.
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
3184
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Posted - 2014.08.15 14:26:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Shooter Somewhere wrote:Cat Merc wrote:If Nova Knives killed your tank, you might want to look at yourself and reevaluate your choices. I have yet to be killed by any knives yet jap Jap? I'm over here
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
11705
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Posted - 2014.08.15 14:28:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Shooter Somewhere wrote:Cat Merc wrote:If Nova Knives killed your tank, you might want to look at yourself and reevaluate your choices. I have yet to be killed by any knives yet jap Jap? I'm over here Wonder if he thinks I'm Japanese. That would be amusing.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
3805
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Posted - 2014.08.15 14:43:00 -
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All they have done is removed slots/skills/modules/turrets/hulls and various nerfs which leads to less variety while buffing AV options on the basis of pub matches instead of PC so they become generally useless in all modes
Even knifes damage vehicles now so its only going to get worse
I cant believe it, 1.0 was actually better for vehicles than it is now and 1.0 was pretty bad you generally think it couldnt have got any worse, how wrong we were
Tho my FG fit has barely changed in comparision and had very few problems |
GeneralButtNaked
Fatal Absolution
1344
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Posted - 2014.08.15 14:47:00 -
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Who cares? CCP stopped real development of the game right after what should have been the first stage in the vehicle rework got released.
The vehicles in game are essentially unfinished crap that will never be remedied. Although missile tanks are still entertaining. Just not terribly effective.
Although in the few games I did play on TAG, the level of ADS asshattery was quite high, I can only presume it to be due to lack of a vehicle based counter to the flyboys.
Looking at the CPM though, expect no different from VaporLegion.
Mr Hybrid Vayu, tanker supreme.
GBN: Prof 5 FG, HMG, SMG, AR, LR Prof 4 ScR RR, SR
Proto Logi, Heavy, Assault.
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Shooter Somewhere
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
30
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Posted - 2014.08.15 14:56:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:All they have done is removed slots/skills/modules/turrets/hulls and various nerfs which leads to less variety while buffing AV options on the basis of pub matches instead of PC so they become generally useless in all modes
Even knifes damage vehicles now so its only going to get worse
I cant believe it, 1.0 was actually better for vehicles than it is now and 1.0 was pretty bad you generally think it couldnt have got any worse, how wrong we were
Tho my FG fit has barely changed in comparision and had very few problems
Yup... The only skill they have added recently was armor comp and be in mind that was a complete accident it showed up on the skill tree for no reason and I was told through support ticked it was getting removed but they unlocked it.
So all and all since 1.7-1.8 From alpha to Charlie we have gotten nothing and only got buffed counter parts. Be in mind all turrets have been afftected one way or another excluding large missles (funny how that's the worst one to try and kill infantry with) WITH EXCEPTIONS.
HEADSHOT! HEADSHOT!! HEADSHOT!!! HEADSHOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Michael Epic
The Neutral Zone
305
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Posted - 2014.08.15 15:00:00 -
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*makes a sarcastically awkward sad face*
The poor tanker has to get out of his iWin button and actually play the game and take some risk...waaaaah, waaaaah
Dude, tankers have been a problem in this game since 1.7 because it allowed players to play like puss!es and use b!tch tactics. So there is less b!tch tactics now? AWESOME. |
Grimm Hammer
Sacred Initiative of Combat Killers IMMORTAL REGIME
10
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Posted - 2014.08.15 15:08:00 -
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Michael Epic wrote:*makes a sarcastically awkward sad face* The poor tanker has to get out of his iWin button and actually play the game and take some risk...waaaaah, waaaaah Dude, tankers have been a problem in this game since 1.7 because it allowed players to play like puss!es and use b!tch tactics. So there is less b!tch tactics now? AWESOME.
tanks have a strategic place in the game and the buff of installations will "weed" out the noobs that spam miltia tanks cuz they have no ground game
but i wouldnt call a tank a "iwin" button....easy to kill with a proto assualt forge lol
but dont get me wrong id much rather see six miltia tanks driven by noobs then one proto fit tank driven by a skilled player |
Shooter Somewhere
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.08.15 15:17:00 -
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Michael Epic wrote:*makes a sarcastically awkward sad face* The poor tanker has to get out of his iWin button and actually play the game and take some risk...waaaaah, waaaaah Dude, tankers have been a problem in this game since 1.7 because it allowed players to play like puss!es and use b!tch tactics. So there is less b!tch tactics now? AWESOME.
*Forge gunner scanned* Me: "Blueberry go kill him he is valurable!"
BB: Ok! *climbs up ladder*
BB: "Ha! I got you now you Forge gunning prick!"
*Forge gunner turns around*
FG: Huh? your talkin tah me B****?!?
ME: good I got a couple seconds free relief I can finally help on the objective!
BB: Die! *Starts shooting*
FG: Im bout to whoop all yaw a*sses
FG killed(ISHK smg) blueberry
FG: Now im bout to get me sum o dat tank pu*s*y
ME: Oh! there goes another 2500 shield time to go!
BB: Im ganna kill that F****** FG!
*Blueberry climbs up ladder*
BB: Lets see you get me now prick im ganna straif like those Caldari scouts do!
*blueberry begins flalying around in a circle while some how managing pinpoint accuracy*
FG: B**** please.
*Some how charges a gun that can in theory topple a sky scrapper and deliver enough force to shatter a mountain side but yet only needs to charge it in 2.25 seconds*
FG killed (ishk assault forge gun) blueberry
FG: Oh man. only have 6 bullets left. Now how am I going to shoot down on the noobs?
HEADSHOT! HEADSHOT!! HEADSHOT!!! HEADSHOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Shooter Somewhere
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
31
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Posted - 2014.08.15 15:20:00 -
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Grimm Hammer wrote:Michael Epic wrote:*makes a sarcastically awkward sad face* The poor tanker has to get out of his iWin button and actually play the game and take some risk...waaaaah, waaaaah Dude, tankers have been a problem in this game since 1.7 because it allowed players to play like puss!es and use b!tch tactics. So there is less b!tch tactics now? AWESOME. tanks have a strategic place in the game and the buff of installations will "weed" out the noobs that spam miltia tanks cuz they have no ground game but i wouldnt call a tank a "iwin" button....easy to kill with a proto assualt forge lol but dont get me wrong id much rather see six miltia tanks driven by noobs then one proto fit tank driven by a skilled player
I loved those days poppin those tanks was awesome. No more of that though. They called it tank spamming but really they just couldn't kill tanks with tanks id understand having 8 of those damn things in an ambush but big open maps? No way.
HEADSHOT! HEADSHOT!! HEADSHOT!!! HEADSHOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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RYN0CER0S
Rise Of Old Dudes
1147
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Posted - 2014.08.15 15:57:00 -
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Sympathy for a Pilot?
Can't help. If you can't use you advantages of speed and cover against AV, then I doubt anyone here will advise you keep trying.
I don't always blap Infantry with a Forge Gun, but when I do, that ** is hilarious.
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Tread Loudly 2
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
34
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Posted - 2014.08.15 16:23:00 -
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I've done a fair bit of tanking for a while, and we all will have the QQ to how forge guns have more DPS (Damage Per Shot) as of right now, as well as they are more mobile than tanks.
However tanking is a majority of my SP, I'm barely going to get my first suit to proto xD
So needless to say I know at least a few things, as of right now AV>All vehicles, tanks are quite flimsy unless built defensively, DPS is no longer very viable and from what I've noticed lately Shield Boosters even though they aren't always 100% chance of working, they are better than Shield Hardeners as far as surviving AV.
Swarms are now a bit better than they used to be against shields as well as maybe even a bit better against armor if in a minmando
Tanks could use a bit of love or they could bring back the beloved Enforcers/Marauders (ADV/Proto)
I can't lie either if I was given a chance to Respec I would get rid of my large Blasters, all small turrets all of my ads skills.
I would keep my Large Railgun and my Large Missiles
I Like Tanks, ADS's, and Ion Pistols!
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calvin b
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
2131
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Posted - 2014.08.15 16:25:00 -
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Tankers brought it on themselves. When tanks where over OP they should have told CCP and policed there own until the problem was fixed. CCP killed tanking with militia tanks and nitro boosters that allowed them to drive up the side of walls. I for one will not miss tanks, why? I will tell you why, during the time when tanks where OP I had to fight at minimum 4 tanks at once in battle and this was Damn near every battle. Then you had A**holes that would sit there and farm kills as there hardeners prevented them from taking any damage.
That is a few reason why I hate tanks. I cant wait for the ADS are plucked from the sky as well.
Can the other voices in other peoples minds hear my voices in my head????
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Tread Loudly 2
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
34
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Posted - 2014.08.15 16:30:00 -
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calvin b wrote:Tankers brought it on themselves. When tanks where over OP they should have told CCP and policed there own until the problem was fixed. CCP killed tanking with militia tanks and nitro boosters that allowed them to drive up the side of walls. I for one will not miss tanks, why? I will tell you why, during the time when tanks where OP I had to fight at minimum 4 tanks at once in battle and this was Damn near every battle. Then you had A**holes that would sit there and farm kills as there hardeners prevented them from taking any damage.
That is a few reason why I hate tanks. I cant wait for the ADS are plucked from the sky as well.
Elitist ground troops think that they are kings however us vehicles operators have fine tuned aiming esp. Small rail operators and large rail operators, this means that when we hit the ground our aim>yours as well as our strategies are far better ^_^
I Like Tanks, ADS's, and Ion Pistols!
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Tebu Gan
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1164
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Posted - 2014.08.15 16:30:00 -
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WeapondigitX V7 wrote:Tanking is now harder to do. You need to play more defensively sometimes in matches for a higher survival rate. Playing offensively is just more risky now.
That's my experience in my militia tanks.
Hah, that SHOULD be your experience in milita tanks, hence "milita".
Tanks - Balancing Turrets
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