DUST Search - Remove scouts light weapon slot, sidearms only

Midnight Cardinal wrote:

RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote:

Because they are part of the 80% no skill scrubs.

Thanks for the bumps folks and thanks for basically compiling a list of all the fail scouts in the game except mak.

You're part of this 80%, aren't you? Point is, no offense to anyone else here; if you have to go above advanced items to be effective (without the shotgun), you aren't really able to comment on other people and their skills.
And I've the feeling you'll try to justify yourself, but I'll take a guess and say that you either run a prototype scout and you're tired of being killed by counter-espionage scouts, or you run a basic scout suit in which case you're running a suit that no one would use as a cheap substitute. Now, it's a different story if you run advanced loadouts. And I know it's a different story, because not even I die so much that I get pissed and blame other players amd their preferences.

Do what the skilled people do, adapt. Pick your fittings down to their bones and create a new one, because whatever your using right now is crap.

And CUSE, training wheels, last time I checked, they've been off for a while now.

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RogueTrooper 2000AD Neckbeard Absolution 207	Posted - 2014.08.16 08:36:00 - [31] - Quote Matticus Monk wrote: This topic again, huh? This is like the 10th time I've seen this and the intellectual quality of the arguments gets worse as time goes on. Surveying this topic as it crops up every two months is akin to watching humanity regress. Is de-evolution a thing? Clearly, yes.... Free bump so everyone can see what a horrible idea this is and so more people will remember this the next time someone suggests the "sidearm only" scout option. As a sidearm scout, I could care less one way or the other. (don't take my EZ mode away by suggesting only 1 weapon slot, sidearm only! I won't be abl 2 rek U!) Ah I didn't mean just 1 weapon slot, I'll change the title. So tongue in cheek that my tongue is in your mouth.
RogueTrooper 2000AD Neckbeard Absolution 207	Posted - 2014.08.16 08:37:00 - [32] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote: Wall hacks Invisibility Very quick 2 equipment slots Able to carry 2hk-3hk weapon Able to tank a lot of HP which is what most of these so called scouts are doing. The only people who would have a problem with this are the scrubs who are an assault in a scouts suit. Inb4playmyway. Inb4thesamescrubstrytoflameme. Right I'm ready to hear all the same old crap excuses as to why this wouldn't be 'fair', get real, iv heard it all. I have a 21 million skill points scout alt.......... id have to agree or limit them to shotgun as only light weapon they can weild. Crutch-scouts give the old school scouts a bad name.. but recently i have come to take a little masochistic joy in being Shanked by nova knives..i managed to dodge a knife attempt cause i heard them being charged by an Am-scout while i was rezzing some one.. moved diagonnaly backward and shot him..had it been a shotgunner.. nothing.. boom, dead. no chance. ps. i love that Minja's with the fight skills/fittings can OHK a heavy The shotgun is a crutch............. So tongue in cheek that my tongue is in your mouth.
RogueTrooper 2000AD Neckbeard Absolution 207	Posted - 2014.08.16 08:39:00 - [33] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: I hate to see how you react to my nova knives that are able to 1HK you even if you're wearing a brick-tanked heavy suit. I run nova knives. Reading comprehension much?. No periods after question marks, please. Your illiteracy is one of the reasons no one likes you, J8SON. Another alt inspector gadget. It goes to show how pathetic you are that grammar matters on a game forum, go clean your basement you scrub lol. The whole grammar argument is one of neckbeard scum, nothing more. So tongue in cheek that my tongue is in your mouth.
RogueTrooper 2000AD Neckbeard Absolution 207	Posted - 2014.08.16 08:40:00 - [34] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote: Wall hacks Invisibility Very quick 2 equipment slots Able to carry 2hk-3hk weapon Able to tank a lot of HP which is what most of these so called scouts are doing. The only people who would have a problem with this are the scrubs who are an assault in a scouts suit. Inb4playmyway. Inb4thesamescrubstrytoflameme. Right I'm ready to hear all the same old crap excuses as to why this wouldn't be 'fair', get real, iv heard it all. I have a 21 million skill points scout alt.......... id have to agree or limit them to shotgun as only light weapon they can weild. Crutch-scouts give the old school scouts a bad name.. but recently i have come to take a little masochistic joy in being Shanked by nova knives..i managed to dodge a knife attempt cause i heard them being charged by an Am-scout while i was rezzing some one.. moved diagonnaly backward and shot him..had it been a shotgunner.. nothing.. boom, dead. no chance. ps. i love that Minja's with the fight skills/fittings can OHK a heavy Only if the heavy is a **** fit heavy... You are sht though, be quiet. So tongue in cheek that my tongue is in your mouth.
RogueTrooper 2000AD Neckbeard Absolution 207	Posted - 2014.08.16 08:41:00 - [35] - Quote Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: lol Op mad cause a cloaker shot him in the bak or the face or both, ha ha u die. ur just as bad as the people trying to keep heavies from using light weapons. why cant you whiney people ever whine about something decent like the lack of racial vehicles and turrets or the halted ps3 development? So you have no reading comprehension. Well done, here's a gold star. So tongue in cheek that my tongue is in your mouth.
RogueTrooper 2000AD Neckbeard Absolution 207	Posted - 2014.08.16 08:41:00 - [36] - Quote Only about 3 actual decent players have posted in this thread, the rest of you are bottom feeding, neckbeard trash. Thanks for the bumps. So tongue in cheek that my tongue is in your mouth.
RogueTrooper 2000AD Neckbeard Absolution 207	Posted - 2014.08.16 08:44:00 - [37] - Quote Midnight Cardinal wrote: I'll admit that I don't care for, need, or even have the shotgun skilled. However, you should probably stop being so hypocritical Rogue. 1) You swore that you wouldn't revisit the thread. 2) You have no room to even mention reading comprehension, as you can neither spell nor punctuate correctly. If you know the definition behind Reading Comprehension, you should also be aware to spell check everything you type, and to type using actual words inside complete sentences. Hahahaha, oh I committed a cardinal sin, buuuuuurn. I can deal with that. This is not my workplace or a business meeting is it?. Eyell spehl how eye wahnt, ohk?. Despite me lack of caring for grammar on a game forum.......at least I can understand what people are getting at without making sht up or being a pathetic neckbeard naz!s when I have nothing worth saying. Learn to shut the fk up kids, especially if you are a no skill noob like most of the people who have posted in here. So tongue in cheek that my tongue is in your mouth.
RogueTrooper 2000AD Neckbeard Absolution 207	Posted - 2014.08.16 08:50:00 - [38] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: Sure IASMGs, NKs, RE's and grenade's are still in my pockets, and also it won't make you less of a **** player... Exactly, we don't need a light weapon. So tongue in cheek that my tongue is in your mouth.
Temias Mercurial Knights Of Ender RISE of LEGION 165	Posted - 2014.08.18 04:29:00 - [39] - Quote If we had more sidearms... maybe. Using the same 4 over and over... how about no? Flaylock: Unviable Ion Pistol: More likely to get you killed Bolt Pistol: Works, but not my cup of tea Magsec SMG: Very capable and powerful weapon SMG: Dependable and powerful Nova Knives: Fun as hell, powerful Scrambler Pistol: RoF is not as bad as people make it out to be, strong It's not so much of a case of 'scouts do not need a light weapon' rather than eliminating any fun or force from it. It's not an issue of it being balanced or not... My apologies if I come off as an elitist, but I try to view things objectively, logically, and factually.
Fizzer XCIV Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 91	Posted - 2014.08.18 05:20:00 - [40] - Quote 3/10 You had people going for awhile, so you get points for that at least. Other than that though, this was a fairly low quality troll. There was no finesse, and you just resorted to brute force. Somewhat entertaining, but not truly funny.

CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1153	Posted - 2014.08.18 10:44:00 - [41] - Quote Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: lol Op mad cause a cloaker shot him in the bak or the face or both, ha ha u die. ur just as bad as the people trying to keep heavies from using light weapons. why cant you whiney people ever whine about something decent like the lack of racial vehicles and turrets or the halted ps3 development? because its more fun to nerf crutches out from under the 80% of no skill haveing players in this game. nothing funnier then watching people rage after there training wheels come off. KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
RogueTrooper 2000AD Neckbeard Absolution 213	Posted - 2014.08.18 11:17:00 - [42] - Quote CUSE TOWN333 wrote: Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: lol Op mad cause a cloaker shot him in the bak or the face or both, ha ha u die. ur just as bad as the people trying to keep heavies from using light weapons. why cant you whiney people ever whine about something decent like the lack of racial vehicles and turrets or the halted ps3 development? because its more fun to nerf crutches out from under the 80% of no skill haveing players in this game. nothing funnier then watching people rage after there training wheels come off. Aye, which is the only reason people are against this. Because they are part of the 80% no skill scrubs. Thanks for the bumps folks and thanks for basically compiling a list of all the fail scouts in the game except mak. So tongue in cheek that my tongue is in your mouth.
Crimson ShieId Psygod9 771	Posted - 2014.08.18 15:59:00 - [43] - Quote RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote: CUSE TOWN333 wrote: Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: lol Op mad cause a cloaker shot him in the bak or the face or both, ha ha u die. ur just as bad as the people trying to keep heavies from using light weapons. why cant you whiney people ever whine about something decent like the lack of racial vehicles and turrets or the halted ps3 development? because its more fun to nerf crutches out from under the 80% of no skill haveing players in this game. nothing funnier then watching people rage after there training wheels come off. Aye, which is the only reason people are against this. Because they are part of the 80% no skill scrubs. Thanks for the bumps folks and thanks for basically compiling a list of all the fail scouts in the game except mak. If the removal of crutches is on the list, why isn't aim assist being brought up? Let's get rid of that too. Nova Knives are best sidearm.
Alena Ventrallis Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 1560	Posted - 2014.08.18 16:08:00 - [44] - Quote I am in favor of this, as long as light suits keep their light weapon slot. Rest in peace, oh Captain, my Captain.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 4234	Posted - 2014.08.18 17:52:00 - [45] - Quote 2/10 Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
BrotherofHavok PIanet Express Top Men. 69	Posted - 2014.08.18 18:36:00 - [46] - Quote I'm not opposed to this, BUT! I don't think this would solve everything. Sincerely, Your Multi-purpose Everything User
RogueTrooper 2000AD Neckbeard Absolution 213	Posted - 2014.08.18 19:17:00 - [47] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: I am in favor of this, as long as light suits keep their light weapon slot. Lol. So tongue in cheek that my tongue is in your mouth.
RogueTrooper 2000AD Neckbeard Absolution 213	Posted - 2014.08.18 19:18:00 - [48] - Quote BrotherofHavok wrote: I'm not opposed to this, BUT! I don't think this would solve everything. It would just see the scrubbers fail miserably while the rest of us carry on just fine. So tongue in cheek that my tongue is in your mouth.
noob cavman And the ButtPirates 1762	Posted - 2014.08.18 19:21:00 - [49] - Quote Let the salt flow XD I want to be a caveman! Ccp: LEGION Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Full steam ahead into the enemies booty yarrr.
taxi bastard uptown456 Dark Taboo 209	Posted - 2014.08.18 19:36:00 - [50] - Quote after all this time.....scouts with only a sidearm ok heavys no sidearm or light weapons logistics no weapons assaults only assault rifles. this is about what i would expect from the stupid OP when he gets beat in anything

Midnight Cardinal UNITED MERCINARY AND PILOTS ALLIANCE 15	Posted - 2014.08.18 23:03:00 - [51] - Quote RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote: Because they are part of the 80% no skill scrubs. Thanks for the bumps folks and thanks for basically compiling a list of all the fail scouts in the game except mak. You're part of this 80%, aren't you? Point is, no offense to anyone else here; if you have to go above advanced items to be effective (without the shotgun), you aren't really able to comment on other people and their skills. And I've the feeling you'll try to justify yourself, but I'll take a guess and say that you either run a prototype scout and you're tired of being killed by counter-espionage scouts, or you run a basic scout suit in which case you're running a suit that no one would use as a cheap substitute. Now, it's a different story if you run advanced loadouts. And I know it's a different story, because not even I die so much that I get pissed and blame other players amd their preferences. Do what the skilled people do, adapt. Pick your fittings down to their bones and create a new one, because whatever your using right now is crap. And CUSE, training wheels, last time I checked, they've been off for a while now. Your heart pumps faster, you feel the power and energy of pure adrenaline. You're in my sights, you're gone in a moment.
Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 52	Posted - 2014.08.19 00:21:00 - [52] - Quote NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Why would a scout have it's light removed. You just cut out it's sniper role. Shoot, move quickly. Shoot again. Gone. No way it's this happening. And also bye bye cqc. No shotguns. SPAWN.KILL.DIE.RESPAWN.
RogueTrooper 2000AD Neckbeard Absolution 214	Posted - 2014.08.19 02:35:00 - [53] - Quote Midnight Cardinal wrote: RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote: Because they are part of the 80% no skill scrubs. Thanks for the bumps folks and thanks for basically compiling a list of all the fail scouts in the game except mak. You're part of this 80%, aren't you? Point is, no offense to anyone else here; if you have to go above advanced items to be effective (without the shotgun), you aren't really able to comment on other people and their skills. And I've the feeling you'll try to justify yourself, but I'll take a guess and say that you either run a prototype scout and you're tired of being killed by counter-espionage scouts, or you run a basic scout suit in which case you're running a suit that no one would use as a cheap substitute. Now, it's a different story if you run advanced loadouts. And I know it's a different story, because not even I die so much that I get pissed and blame other players amd their preferences. Do what the skilled people do, adapt. Pick your fittings down to their bones and create a new one, because whatever your using right now is crap. And CUSE, training wheels, last time I checked, they've been off for a while now. You are completely wrong I don't need to justify myself If you was any good then you would adapt if this idea was implemented eh? Who is the one who doesn't want to adapt?.......you are Keep the bumps and contradictions coming folks, this is a fine list lol Next and thanks for the bumps So tongue in cheek that my tongue is in your mouth.
RogueTrooper 2000AD Neckbeard Absolution 214	Posted - 2014.08.19 02:37:00 - [54] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Why would a scout have it's light removed. You just cut out it's sniper role. Shoot, move quickly. Shoot again. Gone. No way it's this happening. And also bye bye cqc. No shotguns. 10/10 for being honest about being a scrub. So tongue in cheek that my tongue is in your mouth.
Matticus Monk OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2415	Posted - 2014.08.19 02:42:00 - [55] - Quote Actually, if we are talking about a scout with 2 sidearm weapon slots, I wouldn't mind having that option (in addition to the normal scout with 1Light 1Sidearm). But there would need to be some other compensation to offset the lack of a light weapon, which is a defining characteristic for many scouts; aka the shotgun scout, the sniper scout, the CR scout, the MD scout.... we have them all in our hangout. I'd give up a light weapon for either: additional EWAR, additional HP, additional stamina (close your ears, Amarrarians), additional ammo capacity in my sidearms, additonal regen, additional cloak time.... there are so many cool options that could be found here. Double posting like a Kaiser. Embracing the death, at Llast.
RogueTrooper 2000AD Neckbeard Absolution 214	Posted - 2014.08.19 02:46:00 - [56] - Quote Matticus Monk wrote: Actually, if we are talking about a scout with 2 sidearm weapon slots, I wouldn't mind having that option (in addition to the normal scout with 1Light 1Sidearm). But there would need to be some other compensation to offset the lack of a light weapon, which is a defining characteristic for many scouts; aka the shotgun scout, the sniper scout, the CR scout, the MD scout.... we have them all in our hangout. I'd give up a light weapon for either: additional EWAR, additional HP, additional stamina (close your ears, Amarrarians), additional ammo capacity in my sidearms, additonal regen, additional cloak time.... there are so many cool options that could be found here. Offset what?. I like the light slot but its ridiculous. Its time to get real now Do any of you scrubs except a few definites even have proto? There is no need for the light slot,its just overkill. So tongue in cheek that my tongue is in your mouth.
Deathonswift UNITED MERCINARY AND PILOTS ALLIANCE 23	Posted - 2014.08.19 02:51:00 - [57] - Quote Midnight Cardinal wrote: But then... who will hold the shotguns? Ha, just kidding. I despise shotgun/cloak combos. Look, if you would rather me kill you with Nova Knives and an SMG, rather than my standard Nova Knives and Combat Rifle combo... It's like Burger King with me, "Have it your way!" I don't know rogue, looks like he adapted already. Darkness shrouds as Fire purges. I am the Wraith.
RogueTrooper 2000AD Neckbeard Absolution 214	Posted - 2014.08.19 02:55:00 - [58] - Quote Deathonswift wrote: Midnight Cardinal wrote: But then... who will hold the shotguns? Ha, just kidding. I despise shotgun/cloak combos. Look, if you would rather me kill you with Nova Knives and an SMG, rather than my standard Nova Knives and Combat Rifle combo... It's like Burger King with me, "Have it your way!" I don't know rogue, looks like he adapted already. I'm just being honest with how ridiculous it is at proto Simply ridiculous Too many want to protect their crutch Its no problem for me if it doesn't change as I carry on getting practically free kills lol So tongue in cheek that my tongue is in your mouth.
RogueTrooper 2000AD Neckbeard Absolution 214	Posted - 2014.08.19 02:58:00 - [59] - Quote We were assassinating just fine in beta with no cloak To balance the cloak,something has to give Clearly sidearms only Delta could possible see sidearms nerfed into obscurity though We'll see So tongue in cheek that my tongue is in your mouth.
RogueTrooper 2000AD Neckbeard Absolution 214	Posted - 2014.08.19 03:04:00 - [60] - Quote Also increase fw friendly damage limit to 10k How is one supposed to sabotage properly with that tiny 5k damage limit Also get rid of the punish button lol So tongue in cheek that my tongue is in your mouth.



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