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Heathen Bastard
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Posted - 2014.08.14 21:06:00 -
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wow. less than 1000 votes. so many people... didn't they claim 5k a day or something?
CCP "logic": Why fix something when we can &^%$ all over everyone who believed in us.
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Heathen Bastard
The Bastard Brigade
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Posted - 2014.08.14 21:28:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:
Both of these situations are possible, CPM's existence is a positive for #1, and not a factor for #2. So by saying "I don't want the CPM, stop cramming it down our throats" you're really saying "I don't want to support a program which may have a positive impact on the game".
I don't support a program that has never once produced results that shows the devs listen to anything the players have ever said.
CPM is useless, dust is dead.
CCP "logic": Why fix something when we can &^%$ all over everyone who believed in us.
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Heathen Bastard
The Bastard Brigade
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Posted - 2014.08.14 22:51:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Heathen Bastard wrote:I don't support a program that has never once produced results that shows the devs listen to anything the players have ever said. The fact you haven't seen the results does not mean they are not there. You see the failures, because the failures are when CCP ignores the CPM and does dumb things. You don't see the successes. Why not? Because the successes were usually preventing something bad from happening in the first place. Nobody can tell you what was going to happen, but it didn't happen, thanks to the CPM.
The "success" is that those 937 youtubers think their voice matters at all to CCP.
You're nothing to them. Just a pretty facade to show around and say "oh look, we're so progressive and we listen to our players!" which can easily be abandoned when you do something they don't like.
CCP "logic": Why fix something when we can &^%$ all over everyone who believed in us.
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Heathen Bastard
The Bastard Brigade
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Posted - 2014.08.14 22:57:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:
Thank you for the useless and highly irrelevant ad hominem attack. I'm talking about voting in general in case you didn't notice. I don't care if you voted for the Green Party, Libertarian Party, or even the Mickey Mouse Party. If you voted, you have a right to complain. But if you never even got involved in voting for anyone, then GTFO.
Unfortunately I edited the comment after you were already typing so you didn't see where I broke down my analogy. Because I had a feeling with most people who fail at logic, you won't be reasonable. If you don't believe in a system it does you no good to participate in the said system. I don't think CPM help, why would I vote for them? Was there a vote no option? An opt out as it were? No? Then reconsider who may be the fool here. But then there lies the problem when it comes to losing faith in the system. If sufficient people don't believe in the voting system, then the voting system slowly begins to break down. To put it into a better analogy, think of matchmaking in a first-person shooter like Dust. Even if Dust were to somehow have a proper matchmaking, there is not enough players playing the game to allow Scotty to keep the matches balanced so you start getting crappy matches. More players start to leave as a result, the matches become even more unbalanced as more players leave and not enough remaining players to go around to keep the matches balanced. It's like a self-fulfilling prophecy. Honestly, the CPM1 might not have as much influence with the game as Eve Online's CSM does (the CSM actually has stakeholder power in Eve's development like the Board of Directors), but give it enough time to mature and it will succeed. It will just take years to improve.
Too bad dust is already dead.
CCP "logic": Why fix something when we can &^%$ all over everyone who believed in us.
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Heathen Bastard
The Bastard Brigade
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Posted - 2014.08.14 23:01:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:PoP SoTa wrote:Far as we know, our game has an expiration date on it now. So, what are we waiting for? Legion? On a different platform? CCP never gave an expiration date. Just think of Dust as being in a coma.
With no chance of waking up.
CCP "logic": Why fix something when we can &^%$ all over everyone who believed in us.
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Heathen Bastard
The Bastard Brigade
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Posted - 2014.08.14 23:28:00 -
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el OPERATOR wrote:*breaks out his cooler and his riot shoes*
Ah, the Lakers. They lose, there's a riot. They win? There's a riot.
Hey. That's how we celebrate things in america, we get drunk and blow **** up.
CCP "logic": Why fix something when we can &^%$ all over everyone who believed in us.
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Heathen Bastard
The Bastard Brigade
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Posted - 2014.08.14 23:38:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Heathen Bastard wrote:el OPERATOR wrote:*breaks out his cooler and his riot shoes*
Ah, the Lakers. They lose, there's a riot. They win? There's a riot. Hey. That's how we celebrate things in america, we get drunk and blow **** up. Must resist hardcore joke.........must........resist...........
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I still remember my favorite 4th of july ever(celebrating beating up the english, just in case you don't know) where I almost blew one of my arms off with a homemade firework. I wasn't even drunk for that!
CCP "logic": Why fix something when we can &^%$ all over everyone who believed in us.
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