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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2014.08.14 21:08:00 -
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Weren't the CPM voted in off something like 96 votes?
LMFAO
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2014.08.14 21:19:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:No, 90% of the players couldn't be bothered to take the 5 minutes it takes to log in, click 1-7 names, and hit submit
Aside from the fact that I quit this game and just amuse myself with the forums occasionally, I refused to vote in a bunch of randoms who bring with them un-profesionalism and an added layer of **** for CCP to sift through, which CCP quite clearly can't do very well.
All it does is add more voices to the noise. CPM is a terrible idea in such an underdeveloped game. CCP should learn to learn their game, instead of relying on randoms to do it for them.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2014.08.14 21:26:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:No, 90% of the players couldn't be bothered to take the 5 minutes it takes to log in, click 1-7 names, and hit submit
Aside from the fact that I quit this game and just amuse myself with the forums occasionally, I refused to vote in a bunch of randoms who bring with them un-profesionalism and an added layer of **** for CCP to sift through, which CCP quite clearly can't do very well. All it does is add more voices to the noise. CPM is a terrible idea in such an underdeveloped game. CCP should learn to learn their game, instead of relying on randoms to do it for them. *sniff* You think I'm a random? Judge is possibly my favorite DUST player, and I didn't even vote for him lol. I think EVERYONE in this game is randoms at this point. This game has given me an incurable case of CYNICISM and I'm pretty content with it at this point.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2014.08.14 21:28:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:If there were no CPM, you wouldn't even have a voice anyways. They would do whatever they want, and you would have to live with it. *Looks at feedback forums...sees extremely little CPM interaction....lots of dev / player interaction....*
*scratches head*
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2014.08.14 21:31:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:DUST Fiend wrote: Judge is possibly my favorite DUST player, and I didn't even vote for him lol. I think EVERYONE in this game is randoms at this point. This game has given me an incurable case of CYNICISM and I'm pretty content with it at this point.
Haha just giving you a hard time buddy, just don't get too salty or you'll shrivel up into a mummy like a lot of the guys here. You're a cool guy, I wouldn't want the bitterness to get the best of you. Just waiting for Destiny
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2014.08.14 21:36:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:DUST Fiend wrote: Judge is possibly my favorite DUST player, and I didn't even vote for him lol. I think EVERYONE in this game is randoms at this point. This game has given me an incurable case of CYNICISM and I'm pretty content with it at this point.
Haha just giving you a hard time buddy, just don't get too salty or you'll shrivel up into a mummy like a lot of the guys here. You're a cool guy, I wouldn't want the bitterness to get the best of you. Just waiting for Destiny Ehh Destiny is cool, I'm getting a PS4 for it, but I can't say it'll replace Dust for me. Totally different experience. You'll have to link up with me sometime when it comes out, I don't think I've ever seen out outside of your dropship This game does nothing but **** me off anymore. I get no enjoyment from it, and I haven't in almost a year now. Destiny just finally reminded me what it was to have fun in a game instead of feeling like a chore. I'm disappointed that there won't be any real vehicle play, but I'll survive lol.
The lack of players who understand dropship vs AV balance, and the amount of those who just regurgitate garbage just makes me want to puke. Beyond done trying to make sense of it, I'm just moving on. I'm not even excited for Legion anymore because by the time that comes out, No Mans Sky will be out, and Star Citizen will either be out or will soon be out at that point.
DUST has turned me off entirely from all CCP products for the foreseeable future
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2014.08.14 21:38:00 -
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PoP SoTa wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:DUST Fiend wrote: Judge is possibly my favorite DUST player, and I didn't even vote for him lol. I think EVERYONE in this game is randoms at this point. This game has given me an incurable case of CYNICISM and I'm pretty content with it at this point.
Haha just giving you a hard time buddy, just don't get too salty or you'll shrivel up into a mummy like a lot of the guys here. You're a cool guy, I wouldn't want the bitterness to get the best of you. Just waiting for Destiny Ehh Destiny is cool, I'm getting a PS4 for it, but I can't say it'll replace Dust for me. Totally different experience. You'll have to link up with me sometime when it comes out, I don't think I've ever seen out outside of your dropship Shame it isn't cross play with 4 and 3, a lot of my Dust friends don't have PS4 and I really want to play Destiny with them. :'( While it does suck, at the very least it's nice that your character isn't locked to either system. So, if they get a PS4, they can use their character. Also with PS4 getting the Share software in the future, they may not even have to buy the game right away in order to play with you.
Certainly not ideal, but it's nice that the option is there at least.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2014.08.14 21:40:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:This game does nothing but **** me off anymore. I get no enjoyment from it, and I haven't in almost a year now. Then why are you here? To rustle you jimmies and amuse myself while I wait for Destiny to come out.
And as I've said, I don't play anymore. Haven't in months. The game is uninstalled from all my systems and all my ISK has been handed out.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2014.08.14 21:48:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:All this hate seems to be directed at the CPM, but it really seems that you are mad at CCP. Why the deflection onto the CPM?
Its not hate at the CPM as people, it's hate at the CPM as an establishment at all. If CCP is too incompetent to listen, then perhaps they should spend less time and money on a pointless endeavor, and, you know, hire some PROFESSIONALS to help remedy their own lack of competence when it comes to understanding their own product.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2014.08.14 21:56:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:All this hate seems to be directed at the CPM, but it really seems that you are mad at CCP. Why the deflection onto the CPM?
Its not hate at the CPM as people, it's hate at the CPM as an establishment at all. If CCP is too incompetent to listen, then perhaps they should spend less time and money on a pointless endeavor, and, you know, hire some PROFESSIONALS to help remedy their own lack of competence when it comes to understanding their own product. You know that CCP won't hire anyone professional to help out. Hell, they don't even have a TEST SERVER. If you really think that the CPM are a waste, don't whine to them about it. Whine to CCP. Send some mail. Do something. Don't just come to the forums, whine and complain and think that you are accomplishing something. I spent two years trying to "accomplish" something.
And in that time I've learned that it's pointless. Why waste effort on a dying game that makes changes on a whim, randomly, back and forth like a drunken seesaw? Why bother arguing with a community of mentally stunted scrubs who swear up and down that they understand the game, and with a company who happily listens to them and makes changes based on that feedback? Why attempt to communicate with a company who would happily give any of those players a seat in the CPM to directly engage with CCP if they're but voted in by the same mass of incompetent players?
Im just here for my own amusement, nothing more. Please don't mistake my posts as some attempt to change anything. The ship is sinking, and I already stole a lifeboat.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2014.08.14 22:03:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:I'm sorry, I legitimately thought you were trying to be productive.
I'll remember to discard that thought in the future. Please do, for all our sakes.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2014.08.14 22:04:00 -
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PoP SoTa wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:You can, but it's just extra drama.
You want results? Talk to the big guys. Send emails to people up the chain.
Complaining to a local manager at a chain about company policy does very little. You have to go up the chain if you want to see results. Ghost, no offense, I'm sure you call yourself a 'vet', but compared to my time here you're still green behind the ears. You have no idea what you're talking about. Want an example? Last years septemember/august tournament. In game tournament footage shows AE's Arirana using Melee glitch to one shot several players instantly nearby each other. Me, and maybe around 20 others, literally 20+ others, all send the link of the video plus our eye witness reports of seeing it done in competitive matches throughout PC against this particular player. What did talking to the 'big boys' do? Not a damn thing, we proved cheating occurred in tournament, nothing happened. Wasn't even fixed or promised to be fixed. So what did we do? I went to GD and made a big ******* deal about it. A day later, we get several responses from CCP explaining the situation and why it happens and what they believe the time frame will be to resolve it. Did CPM accomplish this for us? No, I did, by bitching in GD and getting everyone involved. CPM is useless. GD best D
Just sayin'
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2014.08.14 23:03:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Maken Tosch wrote: Thank you for the useless and highly irrelevant ad hominem attack. I'm talking about voting in general in case you didn't notice. I don't care if you voted for the Green Party, Libertarian Party, or even the Mickey Mouse Party. If you voted, you have a right to complain. But if you never even got involved in voting for anyone, then GTFO.
Unfortunately I edited the comment after you were already typing so you didn't see where I broke down my analogy. Because I had a feeling with most people who fail at logic, you won't be reasonable. If you don't believe in a system it does you no good to participate in the said system. I don't think CPM help, why would I vote for them? Was there a vote no option? An opt out as it were? No? Then reconsider who may be the fool here. But then there lies the problem when it comes to losing faith in the system. If sufficient people don't believe in the voting system, then the voting system slowly begins to break down. To put it into a better analogy, think of matchmaking in a first-person shooter like Dust. Even if Dust were to somehow have a proper matchmaking, there is not enough players playing the game to allow Scotty to keep the matches balanced so you start getting crappy matches. More players start to leave as a result, the matches become even more unbalanced as more players leave and not enough remaining players to go around to keep the matches balanced. It's like a self-fulfilling prophecy. Honestly, the CPM1 might not have as much influence with the game as Eve Online's CSM does (the CSM actually has stakeholder power in Eve's development like the Board of Directors), but give it enough time to mature and it will succeed. It will just take years to improve. Who says we want them to have an influence?
Who says we want incompetent players who bring no level of professionalism or wisdom to the "position" to have any more influence than any other random? CPM1 was voted in off of what, no more than 200 people casting their 7 votes? What a joke.
I didn't vote because I don't want CPM to have a say. I'd rather CCP sink their own ship than let some randoms help them along their way.
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