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Anmol Singh
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.13 20:46:00 -
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Python get shanked by STD swarms. 3 volleys from 10k isk swarm laucher (12k sp) and there goes my 500k isk Python (probably 5 million sp). Didn't happen cuz I fly away after the first volley but statistically, this is what would happen if I chose to fight back.
Hotfix Charlie for me: 3/10
Why:
Heavy nerf is too harsh on my Caldari sentinel
My tank getting Nova knifed (funny, not exactly a bad thing)
Python getting destroyed by no skill swarmers faster than ever before
ADS still overpriced
HMG still a pain in the arse
No possible way to detect scouts other than proto gal logi
This is just my opinion.
Sagaris lover!!!
Commando <3
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PoP SoTa
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.08.13 20:56:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:
This is just my opinion.
CCP1: Oh, look an opinion! Hurry, copy and paste it so it can get to the relevant people to work on it!
CCP2: Done, sent it to Shanghai, looked like great information, hope they work hard on it for everyones sake!
CCPShangHai: We just got another link to look at, put it with the rest in the trash bin.
CCPShangHai2: Shouldn't we at least go over it?
CCPShangHai: Why? It's not like we can do anything about it, we could barely keep up with suggestions and complaints when we had a full staff, how are we going to do it now with half staff? Lol
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
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Posted - 2014.08.13 20:59:00 -
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PoP SoTa wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:
This is just my opinion.
CCP1: Oh, look an opinion! Hurry, copy and paste it so it can get to the relevant people to work on it! CCP2: Done, sent it to Shanghai, looked like great information, hope they work hard on it for everyones sake! CCPShangHai: We just got another link to look at, put it with the rest in the trash bin. CCPShangHai2: Shouldn't we at least go over it? CCPShangHai: Why? It's not like we can do anything about it, we could barely keep up with suggestions and complaints when we had a full staff, how are we going to do it now with half staff? Lol
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Hakyou Brutor
Pure Evil.
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Posted - 2014.08.13 21:00:00 -
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It's sad cause Rattati is really trying... he just listens to the wrong scrubs people... |
Anmol Singh
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
776
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Posted - 2014.08.13 21:34:00 -
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Hakyou Brutor wrote:It's sad cause Rattati is really trying... he just listens to the wrong scrubs people...
For example: Atiim.
Sagaris lover!!!
Commando <3
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
12857
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Posted - 2014.08.13 21:46:00 -
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Not going to lie when I say..... ADS really shouldn't be able to tank AV fire..... you can't have mobility, fire power, and shield/ armour in one hull.
"We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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Atiim
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.08.13 21:57:00 -
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Perhaps you should fit an Afterburner?
Though honestly you shouldn't be able to absorb fire from AV when you have high speeds and damage.
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Atiim
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
11392
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Posted - 2014.08.13 22:01:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:It's sad cause Rattati is really trying... he just listens to the wrong scrubs people... For example: Atiim.
And how might I be a scrub exactly?
DUST 514's 1st Matari Commando
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
12859
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Posted - 2014.08.13 22:05:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:It's sad cause Rattati is really trying... he just listens to the wrong scrubs people... For example: Atiim. And how might I be a scrub exactly?
Hurr durr puny AV man no talk to mighty l33t pr0 ski11z0rz like us vehicles.....
"We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
1035
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Posted - 2014.08.13 22:19:00 -
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Well, I would have liked to see the price drop on ADS, especially since they didn't get the shield buff.
Because, that's why.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
2789
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Posted - 2014.08.13 22:26:00 -
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Swarms have always suffered from the the largest gap between tiers, at a 25% damage difference between STD and ADV, and a 20% between ADV and PRO. Almost all other weapons have a 5-10% difference between tiers, so the changes to swarms simply bring the STD and ADV up to where they should have been relative to PRO all along. |
Anmol Singh
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
777
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Posted - 2014.08.14 02:14:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:It's sad cause Rattati is really trying... he just listens to the wrong scrubs people... For example: Atiim. And how might I be a scrub exactly?
I didn't call you a scrub, I'm just saying you're not the best person to listen to when it comes to Swarms vs ADS balance.
Sagaris lover!!!
Commando <3
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Anmol Singh
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
777
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Posted - 2014.08.14 02:18:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Not going to lie when I say..... ADS really shouldn't be able to tank AV fire..... you can't have mobility, fire power, and shield/ armour in one hull.
Not going to lie when I say....ADS hull is about 230k isk overpriced.
Also, mobility means nothing when swarms always hit when fighting back. I rather 1v1 a forgegunner than a swarmer because Forgegunners can get out maneuvered and their shot's don't throw you into buildings like swarms and you can actually keep your aim.
Sagaris lover!!!
Commando <3
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Mikey Ducati
Resheph Interstellar Strategy
Gallente Federation
429
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Posted - 2014.08.14 02:18:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Atiim wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:It's sad cause Rattati is really trying... he just listens to the wrong scrubs people... For example: Atiim. And how might I be a scrub exactly? I didn't call you a scrub, I'm just saying you're not the best person to listen to when it comes to Swarms vs ADS balance.
blatant lies are the best |
Anmol Singh
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
777
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Posted - 2014.08.14 02:19:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Perhaps you should fit an Afterburner?
Though honestly you shouldn't be able to absorb fire from AV when you have high speeds and damage.
Maybe I'm sick of having no other option other than to run away.
Sagaris lover!!!
Commando <3
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
12870
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Posted - 2014.08.14 02:57:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Atiim wrote:Perhaps you should fit an Afterburner?
Though honestly you shouldn't be able to absorb fire from AV when you have high speeds and damage. Maybe I'm sick of having no other option other than to run away.
So from what I heard you want.
The Current Fire Power your ADS currently have. Enough to see off HAV and Infantry...... on the same hull.
You want the current levels of manoeuvrability including the ability to fly and access some of the most useful areas of the map.
You also want roughly HAV like tanking capacity to survive AV and not run.
You know what Anmol
I wish my HAV could have 5 large blasters, house a shrine to the empress, make nifty hot fudge sundaes, and be capable of interstellar travel....... I think that's pretty reasonable right?
"We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings
Proficiency V.
861
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Posted - 2014.08.14 03:01:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Hurr durr puny AV man no talk to mighty l33t pr0 ski11z0rz like us vehicles.....
And this is how the big decisions are made in the Amarr Empire.
Eternal Beings - #76 in All Time WP - #90 in All Time Kills. Member since day one, 10 months ago.
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
465
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Posted - 2014.08.14 03:02:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Python get shanked by STD swarms. 3 volleys from 10k isk swarm laucher (12k sp) and there goes my 500k isk Python (probably 5 million sp). Didn't happen cuz I fly away after the first volley but statistically, this is what would happen if I chose to fight back.
Hotfix Charlie for me: 3/10
Why:
Heavy nerf is too harsh on my Caldari sentinel
My tank getting Nova knifed (funny, not exactly a bad thing)
Python getting destroyed by no skill swarmers faster than ever before
ADS still overpriced
HMG still a pain in the arse
No possible way to detect scouts other than proto gal logi
This is just my opinion.
actually ADS is not overpriced.. and Python got 500 more shield hp but with rebalanced swarms more people are useing them at Mil/Standard level
sentinel QQ? more SP into core/electronics/engineering
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
12876
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Posted - 2014.08.14 03:16:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:True Adamance wrote:Hurr durr puny AV man no talk to mighty l33t pr0 ski11z0rz like us vehicles..... And this is how the big decisions are made in the Amarr Empire.
This is not an approximation of Imperial Politics.
Imagine if you will a small room with the heads of the Heir Families, the Theology Council, and King Khanid.
Now Imagine if you will Jamyl Sarum a woman of an exquisite, mature beauty on a gilded throne.......all she does for five hours is stare at you with a piercing knowing gaze as if she can read you mind. You know you don't want to look at her, but you can't help it, its human nature, you want to look at the things you shouldn't.
You meet her eyes for a single moment, and in that moment she knows everything about you.
Then she jumps up with a girlish clap.
"Thanks evry1 kwl that u all cme to the meeting let do this agn nxt wk"
"We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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Anmol Singh
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
779
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Posted - 2014.08.14 03:58:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Python get shanked by STD swarms. 3 volleys from 10k isk swarm laucher (12k sp) and there goes my 500k isk Python (probably 5 million sp). Didn't happen cuz I fly away after the first volley but statistically, this is what would happen if I chose to fight back.
Hotfix Charlie for me: 3/10
Why:
Heavy nerf is too harsh on my Caldari sentinel
My tank getting Nova knifed (funny, not exactly a bad thing)
Python getting destroyed by no skill swarmers faster than ever before
ADS still overpriced
HMG still a pain in the arse
No possible way to detect scouts other than proto gal logi
This is just my opinion. actually ADS is not overpriced.. and Python got 500 more shield hp but with rebalanced swarms more people are useing them at Mil/Standard level sentinel QQ? more SP into core/electronics/engineering
Python did not get 500 more shields you dimwit, and have you even tried fitting the Caldari heavy? Even with max skills the proto has to be fit with adv and std mods if you wanna keep a proto hmg. You can fit complex mods but then you have to leave slots empty.
Sagaris lover!!!
Commando <3
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Operative 1125 Lokaas
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
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Posted - 2014.08.14 05:08:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Atiim wrote:Perhaps you should fit an Afterburner?
Though honestly you shouldn't be able to absorb fire from AV when you have high speeds and damage. Maybe I'm sick of having no other option other than to run away. So from what I heard you want. The Current Fire Power your ADS currently have. Enough to see off HAV and Infantry...... on the same hull. You want the current levels of manoeuvrability including the ability to fly and access some of the most useful areas of the map. You also want roughly HAV like tanking capacity to survive AV and not run. You know what Anmol I wish my HAV could have 5 large blasters, house a shrine to the empress, make nifty hot fudge sundaes, and be capable of interstellar travel....... I think that's pretty reasonable right?
Hotfix Delta? I think I see battleshiiiiiips!
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taxi bastard
uptown456
Dark Taboo
205
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Posted - 2014.08.14 06:52:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Python get shanked by STD swarms. 3 volleys from 10k isk swarm laucher (12k sp) and there goes my 500k isk Python (probably 5 million sp). Didn't happen cuz I fly away after the first volley but statistically, this is what would happen if I chose to fight back.
Hotfix Charlie for me: 3/10
Why:
Heavy nerf is too harsh on my Caldari sentinel
My tank getting Nova knifed (funny, not exactly a bad thing)
Python getting destroyed by no skill swarmers faster than ever before
ADS still overpriced
HMG still a pain in the arse
No possible way to detect scouts other than proto gal logi
This is just my opinion.
3 volleys, i must try those basic swarms - i generally find that i can't kill a ADS with a minimando, 2 complex damage mods and proto swarms when they put fittings on them. |
Logi Bro
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
3188
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Posted - 2014.08.14 07:11:00 -
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I've been shooting 3 volleys in a row at ADSs all day, none of them died from it, and yes, all three volleys connected. I don't see why you are making a thread about a problem that is completely nonexistent. Anything to join in on the Hotfix Charlie hate bandwagon, I guess.
SP Sinks? Fixed.
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