DUST Search - Combat Rifle Prof.

BlazeXYZ wrote:

RYN0CER0S wrote:

The dark cloud wrote:

J4yne C0bb wrote:

Atiim wrote:

I'd say get your Ammunition up to Level III, and then max out your Sharpshooter.

Then, go for Proficiency.

Yup. And that goes for all weapons that have it (AR/CR/SMG, etc). Sharpshooter doesn't look 'sexy', but the fact is, you're getting a DPS boost by the simple fact that you are landing more bullets. Extra damage from proficiency is meaningless if your bullets aren't hitting your target.

Take Sharpshooter to 5 before you do anything else, and thank me with an ISK donation later.

Lol sharpshoter is useless. The 5% less dispersion is only for scrubs that spray and pray from the hip the whole time. I aim down the sights and just shot people and still get very good results without sharpshoter.

Actually, Sharpshooter is for putting more shots accurately on target.
Not skilling SS is for spray n' pray scrubs.

You've got it all wrong on this one.

OK i'm hearing many explanations for sharpshooter. What is it then?

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BlazeXYZ xCosmic Voidx Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 143	Posted - 2014.08.13 02:13:00 - [1] - Quote So currenty I have Prof. 3 on the CR and getting up to 5 is really hard. The fact that I skill in suits than prof. is what i normally do. So is it really worth it to skill into prof.5? Do you see any difference? If not i'm spending millions of sp on a weapon where i could spent on a suit. The Blazing Intellect Machine
Zindorak 1.U.P 602	Posted - 2014.08.13 02:15:00 - [2] - Quote BlazeXYZ wrote: So currenty I have Prof. 3 on the CR and getting up to 5 is really hard. The fact that I skill in suits than prof. is what i normally do. So is it really worth it to skill into prof.5? Do you see any difference? If not i'm spending millions of sp on a weapon where i could spent on a suit. It is a very good weapon, i have it at prof 2 or 3. who know what it will be like at 5 Pokemon master
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2981	Posted - 2014.08.13 02:15:00 - [3] - Quote Lol you don't even need prof 1. That's how ridiculously OP that gun is. Damn their projectile damage profile and quick bursts of speed!
Mikey Ducati Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 391	Posted - 2014.08.13 02:16:00 - [4] - Quote Prof 5 or die. That small percentage damage increase is always worth it. There are many guys who think prof 3 or 4 is all they need...until they face that Prof 5.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 3988	Posted - 2014.08.13 02:18:00 - [5] - Quote I'd go core skills and hold off on furthering CR proficiency until after its lopsided damage profile is fixed. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Zindorak 1.U.P 602	Posted - 2014.08.13 02:18:00 - [6] - Quote Use ACR Pokemon master
BlazeXYZ xCosmic Voidx Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 143	Posted - 2014.08.13 02:18:00 - [7] - Quote Mikey Ducati wrote: Prof 5 or die. That small percentage damage increase is always worth it. There are many guys who think prof 3 or 4 is all they need...until they face that Prof 5. Is it worth it for a million and half sp The Blazing Intellect Machine
Mikey Ducati Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 391	Posted - 2014.08.13 02:22:00 - [8] - Quote BlazeXYZ wrote: Mikey Ducati wrote: Prof 5 or die. That small percentage damage increase is always worth it. There are many guys who think prof 3 or 4 is all they need...until they face that Prof 5. Is it worth it for a million and half sp Thought I answered that my friend. But what do I know, I love ducati bikes, blasians and long island ice teas with double whoppers with cheese.
Heimdallr69 Nyain San 3160	Posted - 2014.08.13 02:32:00 - [9] - Quote I'm sorry I can't answer.. I went pro 5 first day. That's like a DMG mod though right 4 or 6% more DMG? Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Booby Tuesdays Tuesdays With Boobies 767	Posted - 2014.08.13 02:46:00 - [10] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Lol you don't even need prof 1. That's how ridiculously OP all the rifles are. Damn their projectile damage profile and quick bursts of speed! Fixed. To the OP, I went prof. 5 in the MD, and it makes a big difference. I can only imagine how a prof. 5 rifle with DMG mods feels. I'm guessing something along the lines of a hot knife through butter? Melee Weapon of Choice: Nokia-3310 Prof. V

Zindorak 1.U.P 602	Posted - 2014.08.13 02:48:00 - [11] - Quote Booby Tuesdays wrote: Joel II X wrote: Lol you don't even need prof 1. That's how ridiculously OP all the rifles are. Damn their projectile damage profile and quick bursts of speed! Fixed. To the OP, I went prof. 5 in the MD, and it makes a big difference. I can only imagine how a prof. 5 rifle with DMG mods feels. I'm guessing something along the lines of a hot knife through butter? Imagine a Six Kin ACR with prof 5 and a suit that can stack 4-5 DMG mods Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh that damage output Pokemon master
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 3918	Posted - 2014.08.13 04:48:00 - [12] - Quote Wasted SP in my opinion. Lvl3 is enough beyond that the SP costs are too much compared to the benefit. They say when you die you see a white light which then forms the line of: "GAME OVER! PLEASE INSERT COIN"
Atiim Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 11362	Posted - 2014.08.13 04:55:00 - [13] - Quote I'd say get your Ammunition up to Level III, and then max out your Sharpshooter. Then, go for Proficiency. DUST 514's 1st Matari Commando -HAND
RYN0CER0S Rise Of Old Dudes 1079	Posted - 2014.08.13 04:58:00 - [14] - Quote Atiim wrote: I'd say get your Ammunition up to Level III, and then max out your Sharpshooter. Then, go for Proficiency. Boom-shaka-lakka. Who farted?
Dj grammer New Age Empire. General Tso's Alliance 331	Posted - 2014.08.13 05:15:00 - [15] - Quote BlazeXYZ wrote: So currenty I have Prof. 3 on the CR and getting up to 5 is really hard. The fact that I skill in suits than prof. is what i normally do. So is it really worth it to skill into prof.5? Do you see any difference? If not i'm spending millions of sp on a weapon where i could spent on a suit. it comes down to skill points spent to advantages gained after level 3. Example say I wanted Proto level Logistics (I'm already minmatar logistics pro since 1.2), I look at the pros and cons. If the pros outweigh the cons then it is worth it. In this case I gain 5% decrease in equipment per level and I gain a rep tool bonus per level. Overtime that becomes a very useful skill since I gain a proto suit, the skill works across all minmatar logistics suits and it makes the repair tool more viable in battle. Now for weapon proficiency, when you start out it is totally worth it. But once you hit level 3 the skill point cost are extremely high. So is gaining an additional 3% worth it after level 4 counting the man hours spent to gain the sp required to get to level 5? depends on you the person, the dropsuit, and the playstyle. I have my CR proficiency at 4 and never looked back nor have thought into making it level 5. Hope this helps. Darkness is a Beginning, you see, not an end.
J4yne C0bb Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 681	Posted - 2014.08.13 05:38:00 - [16] - Quote Atiim wrote: I'd say get your Ammunition up to Level III, and then max out your Sharpshooter. Then, go for Proficiency. Yup. And that goes for all weapons that have it (AR/CR/SMG, etc). Sharpshooter doesn't look 'sexy', but the fact is, you're getting a DPS boost by the simple fact that you are landing more bullets. Extra damage from proficiency is meaningless if your bullets aren't hitting your target. Take Sharpshooter to 5 before you do anything else, and thank me with an ISK donation later. Min Logi \| aka Punch R0ckgroin, fatman
TheDarthMa94 Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 464	Posted - 2014.08.13 06:02:00 - [17] - Quote BlazeXYZ wrote: So currenty I have Prof. 3 on the CR and getting up to 5 is really hard. The fact that I skill in suits than prof. is what i normally do. So is it really worth it to skill into prof.5? Do you see any difference? If not i'm spending millions of sp on a weapon where i could spent on a suit. In rust we trust my friend! Sith Lord "So, what are we going to do next? Something good? Something bad? A bit of both?
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2026	Posted - 2014.08.13 06:29:00 - [18] - Quote its FREE damage, and most importantly its not subject to diminishing returns and stacking penalties. it makes damage mods BEAST MODE in the current meta where nobody uses them, and after charlie drops and lights get a buff to dmg mods (AND sidearms LOL at OP SMG with dmg mods and prof 5) its absolutly worth it to hit prof 5 and use at least one damage mod, especially when using the assault varient and trying to eat scouts and heavys that the current meta is churning out. Minmatar is Winmatar
I-Shayz-I I----------I 4561	Posted - 2014.08.13 06:37:00 - [19] - Quote level 4 proficiency if you use it as your main weapon, but 3% for 777k skill points? Not worth it IMO unless you have nothing else to spend it on. 7162 wp with a Repair Tool! List of Legion Feedback Threads!
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 3920	Posted - 2014.08.13 07:02:00 - [20] - Quote J4yne C0bb wrote: Atiim wrote: I'd say get your Ammunition up to Level III, and then max out your Sharpshooter. Then, go for Proficiency. Yup. And that goes for all weapons that have it (AR/CR/SMG, etc). Sharpshooter doesn't look 'sexy', but the fact is, you're getting a DPS boost by the simple fact that you are landing more bullets. Extra damage from proficiency is meaningless if your bullets aren't hitting your target. Take Sharpshooter to 5 before you do anything else, and thank me with an ISK donation later. Lol sharpshoter is useless. The 5% less dispersion is only for scrubs that spray and pray from the hip the whole time. I aim down the sights and just shot people and still get very good results without sharpshoter. They say when you die you see a white light which then forms the line of: "GAME OVER! PLEASE INSERT COIN"

PARKOUR PRACTIONER D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1778	Posted - 2014.08.13 10:22:00 - [21] - Quote If its your favorite gun, max EVERYTHING. But i recommend rapid reload & sharpshooter LAST. Why? Proficiency takes longer to max than other skills. AND unti you get rapid reload & sharpshooter the proficiency will MORE then make up for it. But once you max your entire skill tree; BEAST MODE. PSN Sil4ntChaozz Define /Z)/V//V- Anything you can do a NINJA can do better Ninja Pirate Cowboy
TechMechMeds Level 5 Forum Warrior 5067	Posted - 2014.08.13 10:38:00 - [22] - Quote After waiting so long for that gun, I maxed it the day it was released. Prof 5 is quality, I'd do it if I was you. You can run a std cr and it will still be great. That goes for any weapon. A rolling nade is worth two in ambush.
Sum1ne Else Fatal Absolution 1334	Posted - 2014.08.13 10:42:00 - [23] - Quote BlazeXYZ wrote: So currenty I have Prof. 3 on the CR and getting up to 5 is really hard. The fact that I skill in suits than prof. is what i normally do. So is it really worth it to skill into prof.5? Do you see any difference? If not i'm spending millions of sp on a weapon where i could spent on a suit. I have never spent the SP to go prof 5 in any weapon and I have 50m SP.. its not worth it. The only 2 weapons I would go into prof 5 is Forge and Plasma Cannon, both I have yet to do so. If the guy I fight has prof 5 and I have prof 4 but he kills me everytime so be it, thats fair play; theyve invested I havent. EDIT: I have Prof 4 in all my weapons Longest PLC Kill - 193.71m *Logi mk.0 - Com gk.0 - Scout gk.0 - Ass ak.0*
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2032	Posted - 2014.08.13 11:13:00 - [24] - Quote too be honest i MAXED the combat rifle day 1 when it was realeased... i have level 5 in all the skills for it becuase well... im canadian and grew up watching the red green show so duct tape is in my blood. your experiance may very but i havnt regretted it once in that time Minmatar is Winmatar
RYN0CER0S Rise Of Old Dudes 1082	Posted - 2014.08.13 13:23:00 - [25] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: J4yne C0bb wrote: Atiim wrote: I'd say get your Ammunition up to Level III, and then max out your Sharpshooter. Then, go for Proficiency. Yup. And that goes for all weapons that have it (AR/CR/SMG, etc). Sharpshooter doesn't look 'sexy', but the fact is, you're getting a DPS boost by the simple fact that you are landing more bullets. Extra damage from proficiency is meaningless if your bullets aren't hitting your target. Take Sharpshooter to 5 before you do anything else, and thank me with an ISK donation later. Lol sharpshoter is useless. The 5% less dispersion is only for scrubs that spray and pray from the hip the whole time. I aim down the sights and just shot people and still get very good results without sharpshoter. Actually, Sharpshooter is for putting more shots accurately on target. Not skilling SS is for spray n' pray scrubs. You've got it all wrong on this one. Who farted?
BlazeXYZ xCosmic Voidx Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 145	Posted - 2014.08.13 13:27:00 - [26] - Quote RYN0CER0S wrote: The dark cloud wrote: J4yne C0bb wrote: Atiim wrote: I'd say get your Ammunition up to Level III, and then max out your Sharpshooter. Then, go for Proficiency. Yup. And that goes for all weapons that have it (AR/CR/SMG, etc). Sharpshooter doesn't look 'sexy', but the fact is, you're getting a DPS boost by the simple fact that you are landing more bullets. Extra damage from proficiency is meaningless if your bullets aren't hitting your target. Take Sharpshooter to 5 before you do anything else, and thank me with an ISK donation later. Lol sharpshoter is useless. The 5% less dispersion is only for scrubs that spray and pray from the hip the whole time. I aim down the sights and just shot people and still get very good results without sharpshoter. Actually, Sharpshooter is for putting more shots accurately on target. Not skilling SS is for spray n' pray scrubs. You've got it all wrong on this one. OK i'm hearing many explanations for sharpshooter. What is it then? The Blazing Intellect Machine
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 3949	Posted - 2014.08.13 13:28:00 - [27] - Quote BlazeXYZ wrote: RYN0CER0S wrote: The dark cloud wrote: J4yne C0bb wrote: Atiim wrote: I'd say get your Ammunition up to Level III, and then max out your Sharpshooter. Then, go for Proficiency. Yup. And that goes for all weapons that have it (AR/CR/SMG, etc). Sharpshooter doesn't look 'sexy', but the fact is, you're getting a DPS boost by the simple fact that you are landing more bullets. Extra damage from proficiency is meaningless if your bullets aren't hitting your target. Take Sharpshooter to 5 before you do anything else, and thank me with an ISK donation later. Lol sharpshoter is useless. The 5% less dispersion is only for scrubs that spray and pray from the hip the whole time. I aim down the sights and just shot people and still get very good results without sharpshoter. Actually, Sharpshooter is for putting more shots accurately on target. Not skilling SS is for spray n' pray scrubs. You've got it all wrong on this one. OK i'm hearing many explanations for sharpshooter. What is it then? You shoot good no? (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
J4yne C0bb Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 686	Posted - 2014.08.13 21:00:00 - [28] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: J4yne C0bb wrote: Atiim wrote: I'd say get your Ammunition up to Level III, and then max out your Sharpshooter. Then, go for Proficiency. Yup. And that goes for all weapons that have it (AR/CR/SMG, etc). Sharpshooter doesn't look 'sexy', but the fact is, you're getting a DPS boost by the simple fact that you are landing more bullets. Extra damage from proficiency is meaningless if your bullets aren't hitting your target. Take Sharpshooter to 5 before you do anything else, and thank me with an ISK donation later. Lol sharpshoter is useless. The 5% less dispersion is only for scrubs that spray and pray from the hip the whole time. I aim down the sights and just shot people and still get very good results without sharpshoter. Dude, I respect your position as a longtime vet, but you are waaaaaaaaaay off base on this one, my man. Sharpshooter is essential, especially if you play heavy -- you can't defend yourself from a distance without it, it makes a noticeable difference. Besides, all the stats in Dust makes this FPS basically a game of inches -- 2% here, 5% there, it never sounds like much, but all taken together, it makes all the difference in the long run. In response to the OPs question about what Sharpshooter does: in terms of how FPSs are programmed, bullets fired from a gun are programmed as a cone, with the apex of the cone at the weapon. The bullets are then, programmatically speaking, random generated rays inside that cone. From a 2 dimensional perspective (the view point of your screen), practically speaking this means that rifles/SMGs have a hidden circle in the center of the screen where all the bullets will land, which needs to be on the target to hit. Sharpshooter narrows that cone, the effect being that the shots fired fall closer to the weapon's reticle on the screen -- basically, making your gun more accurate. It may not make much of a difference when you are up in somebody's grill, but it makes all the difference in the world when your at a distance, your clip runs out on your AR/CR and you can't take the time to reload. Min Logi \| aka Punch R0ckgroin, fatman


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