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        |  TheEnd762
 SVER True Blood
 Dark Taboo
 
 579
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.12 00:48:00 -
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 So, since the Flaylock was pummeled with the nerfbat, how about we take it's bludgeoned corpse and rebuild it into something useful?
 
 I was thinking a true AV sidearm. Since clones are made of squishy meat, rather than hard armor, the missiles will cause damage when they hit, but will not detonate.
 
 So,
 -Buff, nerf, or don't change the current anti-personnel damage. Doesn't matter in this case. Clones will essentially be getting hist with a sub-sonic, inert slug.
 -Remove splash damage from direct hits on clones or terrain.
 -Increase projectile range (to approx 100m)
 
 THEN,
 -Apply AV damage. I'd say somewhere in the neighborhood of 500-700 for basic (about half the dam of an AV grenade).
 -Return the old knockback against dropships.
 
 Now you've got something to at least discourage a DS/HAV, while not being OP against either vehicles or infantry.
 
 Thoughts?
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        |  TheEnd762
 SVER True Blood
 Dark Taboo
 
 579
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.14 07:27:00 -
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 Bump.
 
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        |  Egonz4
 DARKSTAR ARMY
 
 426
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.14 16:19:00 -
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 Only buff the damage....it should take skill to use
 
 Master of The Flaylock | 
      
      
        |  Fox Gaden
 Immortal Guides
 
 4036
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.14 16:37:00 -
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 A solid and balance proposal.
 
 Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition. | 
      
      
        |  Mobius Kaethis
 Molon Labe.
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 1729
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.14 17:14:00 -
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 I really do think that a small damage buff and a fourth round in the mag would make this a very useful weapon, on par with the scrambler pistol. An AV Flaylock would make a neat variant though.
 
 Fun > Realism | 
      
      
        |  Vulpes Dolosus
 Molon Labe.
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 1853
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.14 18:29:00 -
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 Keep the knock back as it is. It's still better than even swarms or forges and I don't want to be literally flipped over by one pocket-rocket.
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        |  TheEnd762
 SVER True Blood
 Dark Taboo
 
 580
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.14 22:56:00 -
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 Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Keep the knock back as it is. It's still better than even swarms or forges and I don't want to be literally flipped over by one pocket-rocket.  Then stop harassing people on narrow ledges. :P
 
 Right now it's barely a tickle. The knock back is almost more important than a damage buff. Without sufficient knockback, the ADS's missiles will always kill the clone first.
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        |  ladwar
 HEARTS OF PHOENIX
 
 2037
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.14 23:03:00 -
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 No, dual specing is bad and should not be encouraged. No sidearm should ever be a av weapon. EVER
 
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        |  TheEnd762
 SVER True Blood
 Dark Taboo
 
 580
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.15 04:45:00 -
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 ladwar wrote:No, dual specing is bad and should not be encouraged. No sidearm should ever be a av weapon. EVER 
 Right, thank you for your thorough, well-cited opinion.
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        |  TheEnd762
 SVER True Blood
 Dark Taboo
 
 582
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.16 23:15:00 -
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 Bump.
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        |  ladwar
 HEARTS OF PHOENIX
 
 2045
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.16 23:22:00 -
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 TheEnd762 wrote:ladwar wrote:No, dual specing is bad and should not be encouraged. No sidearm should ever be a av weapon. EVER Right, thank you for your thorough, well-cited opinion.   Right just "repurpose" large missile launchers to lockon to infantry with av weapons then, seems fair to me.
  
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        |  TheEnd762
 SVER True Blood
 Dark Taboo
 
 582
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.16 23:31:00 -
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 ladwar wrote:Right just "repurpose" large missile launchers to lockon to infantry with av weapons then, seems fair to me.  
 Give infantry hardeners and make it so they can cut and run as fast as vehicles and you've got a deal.
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        |  ladwar
 HEARTS OF PHOENIX
 
 2045
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.16 23:40:00 -
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 TheEnd762 wrote:ladwar wrote:Right just "repurpose" large missile launchers to lockon to infantry with av weapons then, seems fair to me.  Give infantry hardeners and make it so they can cut and run as fast as vehicles and you've got a deal. Give back old run over damage models and you have a deal.
 
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        |  TheEnd762
 SVER True Blood
 Dark Taboo
 
 582
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.16 23:57:00 -
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 ladwar wrote:Give back old run over damage models and you have a deal. Sure, as long as infantry can jump on vehicles without sliding off.
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        |  KEROSIINI-TERO
 The Rainbow Effect
 
 1225
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.17 00:05:00 -
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 An ok idea.
 
 People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change | 
      
      
        |  ladwar
 HEARTS OF PHOENIX
 
 2046
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.17 00:53:00 -
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 TheEnd762 wrote:ladwar wrote:Give back old run over damage models and you have a deal. Sure, as long as infantry can jump on vehicles without sliding off. Fine but i get my LLAV back, you can get the op TAR back as a trade
 
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        |  Temias Mercurial
 Knights Of Ender
 RISE of LEGION
 
 165
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.18 04:14:00 -
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 Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Keep the knock back as it is. It's still better than even swarms or forges and I don't want to be literally flipped over by one pocket-rocket.  
 Excuse me and my dirty mind, but... are you trying to make a pun?
 
 My apologies if I come off as an elitist, but I try to view things objectively, logically, and factually. | 
      
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